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Cheapest Engine Converison?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:20 pm
by LiverpoloGTi
Hi
My gearbox is doing my head in (atm its whining like its supercharged) if i get another box it will be my 4th in 18 months
So im looking at other alternatives:
Option 1. Sell the Polo and get something else (but i love my 6n2 and would prefer to keep hold of it if possible)
Option 2. Engine conversion

Ive had a few quotes all of which were over 5k +VAT for a 180bhp 1.8T, box, ecu, coilovers and exhaust. Now this is more than the value of my car and i think ill have a hard time justifying the expense to my g/f.
If I could get it done for around 3k then maybe just maybe i could do it.
What do you think is possible for 3k and if so any suggestions as to where or any other options available to me?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:32 pm
by tegwin
I recon I could do a DIY conversion for just over 2K if im carefull...Using as many cheap parts from the scrappy as possible...(I found a written off car and salvaged the engine and loom etc...it WAS sat in my garage until thismorning:shock:
But im a fairly competant welder and machinist, ....
You could spend another grand making it go faster, but just a standard engine would be fine!
If I wasnt driving my GTI every day I would consider it, as I love the car to bits and dont fancy getting a bigger car (i.e. golf or new polo GTI)
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:20 pm
by Luke'sGti
Have you tried ringing Dubsport? They are relatively local - based in Wigan. They are renouned for doing that type of thing. Not sure of how good they are though so dont quote me.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:05 pm
by Mouse_GTI
People say if you want a fast car, buy a fast car, but I'm the other one who likes it too much overall. I'd rather have a 1.8T conversion or a 1.6 on throttle bodies (if the gearbox issue could be got round) than a faster car (of course gimmie an Audi R8 over the Polo anyday

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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:14 pm
by Tim_GTi
I'd do as much research as possible, so you know EXACTLY what has to be done, and what you need.
Then you'll know what you can do yourself and what you can buy on the cheap to save money.
This is why I'd never consider an engine convo at the moment, I don't know enough about it all.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:07 pm
by LiverpoloGTi
Thanks for the replies guys,
I got some good news this afternoon, took the car to Black Diamond where I saw this tasty GTI (anyone on here own it? im sure if seen pics of it before)
Anyway BD are going to put in a new box for me next week FOC! (as the one they gave me under warranty was not fit for purpose)
So this buys me some time until my next box failure. Im gonna save up some cash and keep on the lookout for parts for the conversion. Which has now become my mission. And if the box lasts till ive paid off the finace then maybe i'll treat my lil GTI to the JBS treatment (or Awseome GTI, as its alot closer and id like to be able to pop in and see the work in prgress)
Mouse, im of the same mindset as you mate, I'd much rather have a 1.8T 6n2 GTI than 5k + trade in value of my Polo of other car. (Box aside it is a cracking little car).
Anyway im well chuffed with BD as I couldn't really afford this atm.
Oh and also, the cheif engineer at BD mentioned that he's planning to cease providing gearboxes for 6n2 GTI's

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:44 am
by bbspolo
good luck with finding out how the 1.8t conversion ive been trying for months and no one will give up the secrets
im now trying 2 do it the hard way without knowing how 2 do it before i start! lol
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:38 am
by tomo87
my 1.8T polo should be done by mid july....build thread will be up soon
im running K03s turbo though so should be good for about 230-250hp
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:27 pm
by michaelg1001
i would be tempted to try a tdi 150 conversion, just to be different

cos they are pretty rapid standard, remap up to 200ish, then you can upgrade turbos, fuel pumps etc. the torque would be immense

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:18 pm
by tegwin
It would still sound like a tractor!!!
If you want something a little bit different, how about getting the 1.8t out of an A4 or passat...
It has a transaxle gearbox, so you can wrip out the rear seats and stick the engine in its place.....
The first mid engined polo...
Sitck on a stonking great turbo and some nice big air scoops on the side and you would have one kick ass polo!
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:23 pm
by michaelg1001
i dont care if it sounds like a tractor lol if it went anything like this i couldnt give a toss
https://www.youtube*.com/watch?v=vW7kxKy8Bvc
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:12 pm
by tomo87
seriously im so fed up of my golf sounding like a transit van!
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:51 pm
by bbspolo
tom are u doing the conversion yourself ? if so what have u done about about engine mounts and drive shafts? the rest i have sorted but at the moment ive got a engine brace holding the engine in and no drive shafts!

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:18 pm
by Tim_GTi
That's pretty fast!! What's up with his gear changes though

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:40 pm
by tomo87
bbspolo wrote:tom are u doing the conversion yourself ? if so what have u done about about engine mounts and drive shafts? the rest i have sorted but at the moment ive got a engine brace holding the engine in and no drive shafts!

haha no not myself....my garage is doing it, he does revo and all performance tuning.
its not being started for a few weeks...the plan we have worked out is to use a whole seat ibiza and practically swap everything over then all i should need is mounts as he seems to think we can use the shafts....but im not so positive. i will let you know though what happens
tom