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A crazy thought

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:46 am
by Tahrey1043
Saloon base
+ rear top quarter of hatch
+ some custom glass cutting & sealing
+ a whole lot of welding, smoothing and repainting

= Mk3 Estate?

:D.......... always wondering.



(sorry, im now reduced to trawling ebay looking for 5-boxes or suitable spares/repairs donors and its driven me a bit loopy - the only suitable ones are in bloody glasgow and will only deliver within 20 miles, no postage)

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:55 am
by nick euro
sounds like a crazy but fun project. go for it if you are able to do it fella 8) would be a first for definate hehe

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:59 pm
by Gareth_GT_Hatch
Its an interesting idea. There was a the VW FOX looked alot like a polo saloon, and there was an estate version o that. Ill try n find a pic...

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:05 pm
by Gareth_GT_Hatch
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/504451

here you go. Not exactly a polo, but Its what you could imagine an estate version of the saloon would look like. I somehow have the feeling that If they had that car in this county i would buy one... :oops:

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:27 am
by Tahrey1043
fox was based off of some south american half golf half polo half mutant audi contraption if i remember rightly :D

i havent the means (money, time, knowhow) to do any of the stuff i mentioned, but i just reckon if i could give someone the idea it would be an awesome show car (particularly if you stuck an audi V8 in the back like that mental Mk2 thats slowly being built... leaving some bootspace still!)

i did have a pic i was going to post up of a little play-around i'd done with my own car, making it into a saloon variant (just a photoshop experiment) but i realised that if i 'estated' that, it would only be an inch or so longer than the normal car :D
I will however get hold of a pic or two of a derby/classic "tomorrow"* (particularly grateful if someone can bung up a pic of a mk3 saloon) and try the fakeochopping properly!

*as in "whenever i wake up after going to bed from the night shift"

good"night"



EDIT having a hell of a time finding any derby pics on google or around the forum, let alone good ones. Anybody got even just the one, sensibly sized, straight and level sideways-on shot of a mk3 saloon? (not a "classic", i now realise - thats 6n)
the few pics that are out there, are shot from mental Top Gear sportscar review angles which are completely useless :lol:

Re: A crazy thought

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:29 am
by amstrange1
Tahrey1043 wrote:Saloon base
+ rear top quarter of hatch
+ some custom glass cutting & sealing
+ a whole lot of welding, smoothing and repainting

= Mk3 Estate?
A bit like this then? :)

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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:39 pm
by Gareth_GT_Hatch
OMFG andy! thats fooking ace! :D Imagine a G40 version of that! (insert respect smiley off porka here) Get some roofbars on it! Were laughing! :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:49 pm
by amstrange1
I reckon some roofbars off a Passat or summat would be needed on that! Would be interesting to see the car close up, as there's a fair bit of work to be done to mate the two cars together. Plenty of room for a second engine in the back though...

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:33 pm
by Gareth_GT_Hatch
Aye, Im well impressed with that. Whoever did it did an excellent job. :D

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:49 pm
by Tahrey1043
DUDE! :shock: :o :P :) :D :lol: :lol: :D :) 8)

...sweet...
finally, a mk3 that can swallow a bike without having to take the wheels off (..or an airbed).. and not ohhh so much longer or harder to park. a foot, maybe 18 inches?
(bet it's a 1-L as well - imagine it fully loaded :D)


EDIT: the one question is - where did that monster bit of glass for the rear window come from? Off a greenhouse? My envisioning of it was a split one (ie the original rear from the saloon, possibly openable, plus the hatch one cut down to size)..... i don't even think a Volvo 240 or the odd 2-door Escort mk2 station wagon has a back window that heeuuge :lol:

Next mod to make to it - 4 doors :D
(no, i'm not trying to make a golf! - 4 SMALL doors :roll: )

EDIT 2 - hehe you could also get a MONSTER stereo install in there.. which would kinda make up for not being able to get parcel shelves to fit

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:11 pm
by optima21
yeah I could do with one of them, as I've got to remove the front seat out of my mk2 to pick up and engine crane I won on ebay over the weekend.

you can easily get 8ft into a breadvan by removing the seats though, which isnt such a hard job anyway.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:04 pm
by amstrange1
You can fit a lot in a squareback - I got rid of an entire Polo shell in just three journeys to my local tip.

And the engine in that blue car is a 1.3 GT apparently, and the car weighs 820kg. It must have taken a lot of careful work to build it and get through the German TUV. http://www.polo-clubrheinland.de/Gastpo ... _Chris.htm

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:21 am
by Tahrey1043
Oho I know just how much you can get in a breadie, thanks :D Like, pretty much my entire worldly possessions when at uni (mate actually had to force me to take stuff off the roofrack as the interior contents were enough to cause the exhaust to scrape).

And then there's this..........
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(one of three, or was it four batches. Thats nearly 500kg of paper there, which later had to be shifted on foot - oddly it didnt seem to cut too badly into hill climbing performance, but the handling effects were diabolical.. I could feel the rear wheels overcambering and making the car 'wallow' through corners enough that there was about a half second's delay between turning the steering wheel and the car changing direction. Enough to make me take it *very* easy after the first mile or so.. Tyres were pumped up to about 35 psi on the back but were still having problems!)

Thing is, though there's certainly bags of volume, it's not exactly cut out for long items (i've yet to tackle removing the seats - something i need to do to fix their wobbliness and cook up some kind of replacement tilt-release), even CD racks from Ikea are a pain to get inside.

The maker managed to do all that inside of 820kg? That's not hardly any heavier than the regular hatchback :shock: With a GT motor too, it must fly pretty good when unladen.
And of course, there are actually two subs - in showy plastic covers :D


Another crazy idea - a TDi into a mk2 or 3? :D
(remembering these cars are from the days from when you could have efficient, or powerful, but not both...)

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:19 am
by Gareth_GT_Hatch
Apparently there was A 2 cylinder G40 diesel! That must have been pretty quick. I don't think they made very many of them though. Theres a 1.4 mk3 diesel and a 1.3 mk2 Diesel. Neither were available in the uk although you do occasionally see a mk2 diesel up on ebay or something. I was wondering myself if a 1.4 TDi engine would fit into a mk3. It would probably be a tight squeeze but it really depends how wide the engine is.

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:49 am
by hayesey
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