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Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:42 am
by LeeT96
I am wanting to know of a cable that I can use for simple coding for my RLine without having to pay rosstech prices, I am wanting to do simple things such as needle sweep, etc...

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:11 am
by rsmagee
Ross Tech put a huge amount of effort in. It's only fair we pay for it. As the new polo uses a new protocol it's not going to be supported by fakes for a while.

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:02 am
by Mayhem

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:01 pm
by Dink
Is £270 about the going rate for a Ross tech that will work with a 2015 polo gti?

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:16 pm
by RUM4MO
rsmagee wrote:Ross Tech put a huge amount of effort in. It's only fair we pay for it. As the new polo uses a new protocol it's not going to be supported by fakes for a while.
Totally agree with above!

There are less accomplished scan tools around at a lower price, but their lack of "usefulness" ultimately reflects their price. If you want something that useful you need to pay for it.

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:19 pm
by RUM4MO
Dink wrote:Is £270 about the going rate for a Ross tech that will work with a 2015 polo gti?
I'd reckon so, if that is what you have discovered via official re-sellers of VCDS.

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:37 pm
by Mayhem
Iv got the "cheaper" one and it does everything i need it to. Changes setting, resets warnings, reads warnings etc. no way i was paying silly money for a cable iv used twice so far. If it was a everyday tool fair enough, but most of us will turn on a couple of settings and properly never use it again

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:21 pm
by rsmagee
Mayhem wrote:Iv got the "cheaper" one and it does everything i need it to. Changes setting, resets warnings, reads warnings etc. no way i was paying silly money for a cable iv used twice so far. If it was a everyday tool fair enough, but most of us will turn on a couple of settings and properly never use it again
It will work on the 6R not the 6C.

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:28 pm
by aaygen
rsmagee wrote:
Mayhem wrote:Iv got the "cheaper" one and it does everything i need it to. Changes setting, resets warnings, reads warnings etc. no way i was paying silly money for a cable iv used twice so far. If it was a everyday tool fair enough, but most of us will turn on a couple of settings and properly never use it again
It will work on the 6R not the 6C.
The non-genuine chinese cable I've got works with the 6C, got it for $30

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:40 am
by LeeT96
Mayhem wrote:Iv got the "cheaper" one and it does everything i need it to. Changes setting, resets warnings, reads warnings etc. no way i was paying silly money for a cable iv used twice so far. If it was a everyday tool fair enough, but most of us will turn on a couple of settings and properly never use it again
Is that the one you showed me mate? I agree with you, all I am going to do is use it if an error comes up, and use it to turn needle sweep on and that's it - if I were to even use it once a week I would maybe buy the genuine one but I wouldn't ever be able to justify the price

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Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:12 pm
by Tooks
I really don't see the logic in just because you're not going to use a genuine cable enough to 'justify it', it's ok to effectively steal the software?

There are two ways I can think of that aren't illegal.

First, you ask on here if somebody with a genuine cable/software who lives near you would be able to make those adaptations for you.

Or, you buy a genuine cable, use it for what you want, and then sell it on. Genuine cables hold there money very well, and overall probably cost similar to a pirated cable.

Having said that, if you're keeping your car a number of years, the cable will probably pay for itself many times over.

I just find it odd that people will shell out £20k+ for the car, but not £270 for a genuine cable....

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:56 pm
by LeeT96
I have posted about VCDS near me on multiple forums and rang multiple places but noone is helping

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Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:12 am
by RUM4MO
I agree with all the comments about ripping RossTech off, most people do not like being ripped off - do they?

If the VCDS-LITE worked for your cars then why not go down that route - but as said that will probably not be the case if your car needs the latest version which looks like being 14.10.

Over the past 13 years of owning/running a (wife's) Polo 9N I have used VAG-COM then VCDS 28 times, last time was yesterday mainly due to ghost faults or crap S/W in each case, if I did not have that scan tool and the knowledge to fix/ignore these faults I would have needed to take the car to a garage and get hit for around £35 > £90 for each "check/clear fault codes". The score for my previous Passat B5 was a lot less but that mainly would be due to that 2000MY car having fewer smart controllers than the 2003MY Polo 9N. My current S4 B8 has I think 6 pages of stuff on its VCDS printout so again has many more smart controllers. I can't see her "on its way" Polo 1.2TSI SEL being any better in as much as it will spit out faults at the most inconvenient moment.

In short, I'd reckon that I am buying her another Polo only because I can support it with VCDS, maybe that is not what people want to hear though!

Re: Non-genuine cable for VCDS coding?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:23 am
by alexperkins
Though you could go to any seat, skoda, audi or VW model and use VCDS :P