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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by philipmathew » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:42 am

firegrafik wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:10 pm
All that Polo on drive2.ru are retrofited front 288mm, and most of them have abs without ESP.
As for rear axle. There is one way to avoid axle replacement. One guy in Russia produces steel plates for rear axles to make disk brakes mounting possibility.
https://madlexxcars.ru/madlexxcars_mlc_vag
Thank you so much, that was a helpful source. Will get in touch with Madlexxcars! I'll post the autoscan by today evening or tomorrow morning, I'm not with the car at the moment. By any chance could this be an issue with security access in the VCDS. We had tried the long code edit without doing any security access procedures. Thank you all once again for the quick replies!

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by philipmathew » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:35 pm

iichel wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:17 pm
philipmathew wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:58 pm
Yes, my ABS Unit does have ESP. Have seen several Polo's get 288mm for the front and drums in the rear in drive2.ru forums and they have mentioned about the same coding for the setup. For the rear upgrade, I would require a rear axle swap as the current rear axle on my polo doesn't have caliper mounting brackets.
VCDS autoscan please. Thank you!
Here is the VCDS AutoScan.

Thank you!

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Friday,06,July,2018,17:14:29:09493
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: MEXE15607FT100389   License Plate: PHILIP TSI
Mileage: 28600km-17771mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 3C 44 56

VIN: MEXE15607FT100389   Mileage: 28600km-17771miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00250056230400080000
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
   VCID: 6DDBBDD0BCB4EB2CFC-8038

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 N    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 6502  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501502275091
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 26828 002 1048576
   VCID: 3A71468C757A8C9429-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BQ    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0002  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2463422303C046172471425AC0800904
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0E19DA5CD1727034A5-805A

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 28021504651202
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EF98A9CE1D260B455-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 P    HW: 6R0 907 044 P
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0614  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 40853464D3A6D64467-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 R    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H34 0424  
   Revision: BF034001    Serial number: 0681 048152613
   Coding: 3AB82BBF08A10000003800007C2B1C900040414F608C0000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 4C9D1054EFEE02248B-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AL    HW: 6R0 959 802 AL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 12102576150210082259
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AH    HW: 6R0 959 801 AH  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13102579150303152249
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H04 0103 
   Serial number: 29150002322510025483
   Coding: A5FFFF

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L    HW: 6R0 959 811 L
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13102580150212012948
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L    HW: 6R0 959 812 L
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13102581150210080408
   Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW00YHJD5
   Coding: 003036
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 49932940E89C170CB0-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RF 920 860 Q    HW: 6RF 920 860 Q
   Component: KOMBI         H02 0152  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140800
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04719
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 58B5FC0423367E843F-800C

1 Fault Found:
13649152 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 240
                    Mileage: 28601 km
                    Date: 2015.02.19
                    Time: 16:47:51


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0424  
   Revision: BF034001    
   Coding: 002300
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 70E5A4A4A38606C4D7-8024

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 28601 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.02.19
                    Time: 16:49:41

02849 - Control Module for Lane Change Assistance (J769) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 240
                    Mileage: 28601 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.02.19
                    Time: 16:49:41


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H02 0152  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6AD1B6CC8D5AFC1499-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
   VCID: 41833160D0ACDF4C68-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         534 5314  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4H6235807
   Coding: 16000440040005
   Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
   VCID: 4689227CF182F8745D-8012

1 Fault Found:
02873 - Control Module for Back-Up Camera (J772) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 236
                    Mileage: 28453 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.02.16
                    Time: 18:36:47


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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by iichel » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:48 pm

Please try these two codes:

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62DD4463422303C046172271425AC0800904 #1
62DD4C63422303C046173271425AC0800904 #2
62DD2463422303C046172471425AC0800904 org

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by philipmathew » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:11 pm

iichel wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:48 pm
Please try these two codes:

62DD4463422303C046172271425AC0800904
62DD4C63422303C046173271425AC0800904
Just tried both of them, with and without security access. It’s still giving me the “Request out of range error.” Any other coding or procedure possible?

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by iichel » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:07 pm

I'm afraid I don't know. Do you have any scans from Polo Sedans from the area where you live, with 288 front discs and rear drums?

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by philipmathew » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:35 am

iichel wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:07 pm
I'm afraid I don't know. Do you have any scans from Polo Sedans from the area where you live, with 288 front discs and rear drums?
Thank you for your help, I understand that coding them would make them feel significantly different right? The Polo sedans in our country come with 256mm front and rear drums. Any other leads? I notice that the Indian models have the long code starting with 62 whereas the same Bosch 9.0i unit that’s listed on the forum here have the long code starting differently. Also, is there any updates we can do to the esp firmware?

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by iichel » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:09 am

Without reference data, it's hard to say whether this combination of chassis/engine/brakes is possible in the ABS coding. I'm sorry.

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by Jay-Jay » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:49 am

philipmathew, at this point I'd suggest you to enter the coding for the brakes that are of the closest size to yours (288 front and 232 rear).
Since you are driving a FWD car, I guess it is more important to have correct coding for the front brakes than for the rear ones.

Plus to this, consider that some brakes codings can be accepted by the ABS Unit only if you also modify the specific bytes of Engine and Transmission.
After many tries on different Polo 6R and Audi A1, I understood these ABS Units (8.2i and 9.0i) are programmed to accept only specific combinations of engine/transmission/brakes codings.

For example: if in the Unit has been programmed that your engine/transmission combination can only have "256mm front-drum rear" and "256mm front-232 rear", the Unit will never accept any other brakes coding!
You also need to change Engine/Transmission bytes with others that the Unit is programmed for having other brakes codings.
In less words, you need to trick the ABS Unit, making it see like you have another Engine/Transmission combination, to unlock the brakes coding you need.

So, it's not a matter of firmware version as someone keeps to say!

Let's make another example!
The ABS Unit 8.2i can accept coding only for:
256mm front - drums rear;
256mm front - 232mm rear;
288mm front - 232mm rear.
But only the 6R GTI and 1.6TDI 105cv have the last brakes setup from favtory.
So the 8.2i Unit has been programmed to accept the last brakes codings only with 6R GTI and TDI Engine/Transmission bytes combination.
If you try to enter the last brakes coding with (for ex.) 1.2MPI or 1.2TSI Engine/Transmission bytes, the Unit will never accept the coding, because it has not been programmed for that combination (literally: "request out of range").
But if you also change the Engine/Transmission bytes with those of 6R GTI or TDI...
voilà! "Coding Accepted!" ;)

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by philipmathew » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:02 pm

Jay-Jay wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:49 am
Jay-Jay
Interesting facts!! Thank you for the reply. Meanwhile, with the help of a friend we have managed to source the VCDS logs of ABS/ESP module for a variety of VAG cars that use the 256mm front brakes and rear drum combination.
iichel wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:09 am
Without reference data, it's hard to say whether this combination of chassis/engine/brakes is possible in the ABS coding. I'm sorry.
Can you help me with decoding the engine specification byte and trying a change in that and transmission, along with brake combo change to 288mm front and rear drum to see if it works?

Here they are:(All these cars have 256mm front discs and rear drum brakes)

VW Vento (Polo Sedan) 1.5L TDI DSG

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BN    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2C63422907C74617346A4254E0820908
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1EPS90iBOSCH 003031
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 0B127C6EA2DE101EEF-805E

No ASAM data for: "EV_Brake1EPS90iBOSCH" (VW25) 
No fault code found.
Skoda Rapid 1.5L TDI DSG

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 CB    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H04 0003  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62F52C74422307C9461834714258E0820908
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Braek1ESP90iBOSCH 003031
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 00085B429B984341E9-8054

No ASAM data for: "EV_Braek1ESP90iBOSCH" (SK25) 
No fault code found.
VW Vento (Polo Sedan) 1.2L TSI DSG

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BH    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2C63412A07C0461534708251E0800904
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_AU21.rod
   VCID: 850761560456CC3628B-80D0

No fault code found.
VW Polo 1.2L MPI Manual

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BP HW: 6R0 907 379 AQ
Component: ABS9.0 front H01 0003 
Serial number: --------------
Coding: 60DD2763212B18C20618E46B845818000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH 003017
ROD: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH_VW25.rod
VCID: 0D11C352DC90742ADB-8058

No fault code found.
VW Vento (Polo Sedan) 1.6L TDI Manual

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BF    HW: 6R0 907 379 AQ
   Component: ABS9.0 front  H01 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 60DD2F63212504C40614F470845920020000
   Shop #: WSC 57830 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH 003017
   ROD: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH_VW25.rod
   VCID: 030402A88AC1FC5E97-8056

No fault code found.
VW Polo 1.2L TSI DSG

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BH HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001 
Serial number: --------------
Coding: 62DD2463422A03C94614246F4251C0800904
Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
VCID: 055498AF25A5FE4F1EF-8050

No fault code found.
Once again my cars log: (VW Polo 1.2L TSI DSG)

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BQ    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0002  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2463422303C046172471425AC0800904
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0E19DA5CD1727034A5-805A

No fault code found.

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by iichel » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:15 pm

I'm afraid these scan's aren't very useful in the way that there is only info in them that we already know. Do you know about any vehicles with the same chassis, but 288/200mm brake configuration? I'd be interested in those scans.

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by philipmathew » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:30 pm

iichel wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:15 pm
I'm afraid these scan's aren't very useful in the way that there is only info in them that we already know. Do you know about any vehicles with the same chassis, but 288/200mm brake configuration? I'd be interested in those scans.
Unfortunately, all the Polo's in India have the 256mm front and rear drums. I can get a scan of the 6C Polo 1.8L TSI GTI (312mm front disc and 232mm rear discs) here in India but that being a CBU import to India, it will most likely have similar coding to what you have in Europe.

My question is whether we can trick the module to think we have a different engine - tranny combo as Jay-Jay mentioned, so as to get our desired brake combo of 288mm front and drums in the rear. Changing the engine code and transmission byte perhaps along with the brake combo code and leaving all the other bytes same?

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by iichel » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:43 pm

No, the scan of the 6C GTI won't be useful since it's equipped with a different ABS unit.
Ideally, it would be a Polo RHD sedan with any engine and 288/200 brakes. But if those aren't made, then the possibilities become exponentially more.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of coding the ABS wrongly on purpose. But feel free to have a go with this information:

ESP9.0i PQ

For Byte 2,
2C/24 - 256mm front discs and 200mm rear drums
28 - 256mm front discs and 232mm rear discs
44 4C - 288mm front discs and 200mm rear drums
48 - 288mm front discs and 232mm rear discs
68 - 312mm front discs and 232mm rear discs
78 - 312mm front discs and 256mm rear discs

Byte 4:
21 - Manual transmission 5 spd
23 - Manual transmission 6 spd 1.2 TSI 105hp
41 - DSG
42 - DSG (Polo India RHD, 1.2 TSI CBZB)
43 - 5/6 speed manual (GT, WRC, 2.0 TDI), Polo GTI, BM

byte 10:
Inverse of byte 2
Fill in HEX:
4c
Binary:
01001100
Make inverse:
00110010
HEX: 32

byte 12:
Inverse of byte 4
Fill in HEX:
42
Binary:
01000010
Make inverse:
01000010
HEX: 42

byte 15:
Engine type and steering wheel
40 - BXW CGGB CBZA CBZB CGPA CFHA CFNA CTHE + LHD
42 - CAYB + LHD
4D - CAVE, CDLJ + LHD
4E - CFHD + LHD
52 - CFWA + LHD
55 - CPTA + LHD 80 - CBZB + RHD

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by philipmathew » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:15 pm

iichel wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:43 pm
No, the scan of the 6C GTI won't be useful since it's equipped with a different ABS unit.
Ideally, it would be a Polo RHD sedan with any engine and 288/200 brakes. But if those aren't made, then the possibilities become exponentially more.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of coding the ABS wrongly on purpose. But feel free to have a go with this information:

ESP9.0i PQ

For Byte 2,
2C/24 - 256mm front discs and 200mm rear drums
28 - 256mm front discs and 232mm rear discs
44 4C - 288mm front discs and 200mm rear drums
48 - 288mm front discs and 232mm rear discs
68 - 312mm front discs and 232mm rear discs
78 - 312mm front discs and 256mm rear discs

Byte 4:
21 - Manual transmission 5 spd
23 - Manual transmission 6 spd 1.2 TSI 105hp
41 - DSG
42 - DSG (Polo India RHD, 1.2 TSI CBZB)
43 - 5/6 speed manual (GT, WRC, 2.0 TDI), Polo GTI, BM

byte 10:
Inverse of byte 2
Fill in HEX:
4c
Binary:
01001100
Make inverse:
00110010
HEX: 32

byte 12:
Inverse of byte 4
Fill in HEX:
42
Binary:
01000010
Make inverse:
01000010
HEX: 42

byte 15:
Engine type and steering wheel
40 - BXW CGGB CBZA CBZB CGPA CFHA CFNA CTHE + LHD
42 - CAYB + LHD
4D - CAVE, CDLJ + LHD
4E - CFHD + LHD
52 - CFWA + LHD
55 - CPTA + LHD 80 - CBZB + RHD
Thank you so much! Same here, I'm not a fan of coding it wrong but getting the right code for the brakes I feel is important. But I'll give these a try and see. Also the logs I mentioned above are all RHD, so you can add to the list of engine codes for RHD to byte 15 as well.

Nikhil
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by Nikhil » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:22 pm

firegrafik wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:55 pm
Does your abs unit have ESP?
Anyway, on practice, front 288 and rear drum brakes configuration I have met only on Skoda Rapid. So VW ABS control unit firmware could not be prepared for such configuration, and that's why it doesn't accept such coding.
Mine ABS control unit with firmware 6R0 907 379 AS also doesn't accept such coding. So the only advice I have is to retrofit rear brakes to the disk type.

Hi firegrafik, i am trying to do the same coding on polo 1.2 tsi. It has same setup like phillip mathews. 288 mm disc at front and drum at rear. I have tried differant coding with differant engine options but nothing is getting accepted. I am ready to flash skoda rapids abs 9.0i firmware on my module if harware is supported. If anyone here can send me autoscan of rapid with 288mm front disc and rear drum then i can get required firmware and try to flash.

I am attaching codings which i tried
IMG_20180717_173506.jpg

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Polo 6R ABS CODING

Post by Alvin1001 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:47 pm

Hello guys, i'm in the midst of upgrading my polo sedan abs pump to an esp 9.0 pump.
i have already successfully retrofitted the G85 steering angle sensor.

my new pump part number is 6R0 907 379 CB, HW- 6R0 907 379 AS

here are some details of my car
- vehicle VIN last 5 digits- 00633
- Engine code- CLSA (1.6L engine, similar with CFNA)
- gearbox type- 6 speed auto (09G)
- chassis type- sedan
- sizes of the front and rear brakes- 256 front and 200 rear drum
- Right hand drive

thank you in advance!

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Friday,07,September,2018,18:17:30:52609
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: License Plate: ALVIN
Mileage: 49810km-30950mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 44 5F 77

VIN:   Mileage: 49810km-30950miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CLSA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03C 906 014 EK    HW: 03C 906 014 
   Component: CLSA-MM7GV-G  H02 CLSA-MM7GV-G  H02 85838583  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001A0014032400080000
   Shop #: WSC 83300 833 00020
   VCID: 6ADBBE7286B2681499-515C

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 LK    HW: 09G 927 750 LK
   Component: AQ 250 6F           2601  
   Revision: 00H98000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0008522
   Shop #: WSC 83300 833 00020
   VCID: 0501EDCE4FECA76C14-5140

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BF    HW: 6R0 907 379 AQ
   Component: ABS9.0 front  H01 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 60DD2F63212304C0061AF46C845420000000
   Shop #: WSC 83300 833 00020
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH 003017
   ROD: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH_VW25.rod
   VCID: 0305F3D68AD8995C3A-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H06 0070  
   Serial number: 14031304652268
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EF38222E13AF4B455-802A

1 Fault Found:
1140738 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 157
                    Mileage: 49809 km
                    Date: 2018.09.07
                    Time: 00:13:34

                    Voltage terminal 15: 13.50 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.75 V
                    Terminal 15 status: On


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 P    HW: 6R0 907 044 P
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0614  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 408F3CDAD34E424467-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 R    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H34 0424  
   Revision: BF034001    Serial number: 0681 197140030
   Coding: 7A904ABF08A12400123800003D6B949000C0414F60000000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 83300 833 00019
   VCID: 4C9718EAEF0696248B-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AL    HW: 6R0 959 802 AL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5540 
   Serial number: 13102576140611044037
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AH    HW: 6R0 959 801 AH  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5540 
   Serial number: 13102579140604171354
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: K8 951 171 A    HW: K89 511 71A 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Serial number: ÿK8951171A  °103
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L    HW: 6R0 959 811 L
   Component: -------------  006 5540 
   Serial number: 13102580140902052517
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L    HW: 6R0 959 812 L
   Component: -------------  006 5540 
   Serial number: 13102581140804092852
   Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1KD 919 472 A    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0480  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 64931729402197
   Coding: 0031151011
   Shop #: WSC 19460 666 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001007
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 418939DED0444B4C68-8014

No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       LabelsImage 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10AirbagU07 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX0267U0B
   Coding: 003037
   Shop #: WSC 83300 833 00019
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4A9B1EF2ED728814B9-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495RRB400E50SKCAP2Y

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505RRB401850SKATH9.

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       LabelsImage 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RD 920 870 A    HW: 6RD 920 870 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0805  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 141A00
   Shop #: WSC 43141 842 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 479D27C6FE60757CA6-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0424  
   Revision: BF034001    
   Coding: 002300
   Shop #: WSC 83300 833 00019
   VCID: 70EFAC1AA36E92C4D7-8024

No fault code found.


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       LabelsImage 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0805  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6ADBBE728DB2681499-803E

No fault code found.


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       LabelsImage 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0001000100010000
   Shop #: WSC 83300 833 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
   VCID: 418939DED0444B4C68-8014

1 Fault Found:
0215 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules 
          U1113 00 [009] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 157
                    Mileage: 49809 km
                    Date: 2018.09.07
                    Time: 00:02:02

                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.083 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.683 V
                    Engine speed: 681.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Status: Release


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 5K7 035 200 M    HW: 5K7 035 200 H
   Component: MU-S--ROA     H31 0359  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2S5406867
   Coding: 02840112FF00000051150001001028001F0303D601200500C6
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 2E53726271DAC43485-807A

No fault code found.


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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:58)--------------------------
Last edited by Alvin1001 on Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:47 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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