Introducing my Lightning McQueen LM95

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Re: Introducing my Lightning McQueen LM95

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ag69 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:39 pm Armrest
Hi ag69... good job 👍 but I feel you sweated a lot for this. Removing all the central console trims weren't necessary!!

You should have just removed the small back trim, unscrew the screws on back side, lift the side trim upwards enough and slide in the metal base and fix it, and remaining parts, that's it. See below:
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This way I did my armrest installation in about 30min. 8)

ag69 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:39 pm
Then there is a red colored locking piece and very honestly even though I removed it. I don't know what it is for.

Top View
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Bottom View
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That's the diffuser lens to illuminate the storage space behind at night. You need to retrofit the illumination ring to make use of it. Like this..
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ag69 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:39 pm Next
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Retrofitting Kessy in your Polo? :mrgreen:
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Surely looks like he is fitting kessy. Personally I'd take the 1k8 / 6v0 steering column trim with push button
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Re: Introducing my Lightning McQueen LM95

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patil wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:51 am Hi ag69... good job 👍 but I feel you sweated a lot for this. Removing all the central console trims weren't necessary!!
-- > Thank you very much patil.
patil wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:51 am You should have just removed the small back trim, unscrew the screws on back side, lift the side trim upwards enough and slide in the metal base and fix it, and remaining parts, that's it. See below:
This way I did my armrest installation in about 30min. 8)
-- > Yes had the DIY stopped at armrest. It was and is right thing. It was bit of pushing and pulling but you absolutely right.
patil wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:51 am That's the diffuser lens to illuminate the storage space behind at night. You need to retrofit the illumination ring to make use of it. Like this..
-- > VW and some previous owners got it. Yes I struggled to remove 12V socket. So though I would love to have illumination -- I wont dare to do it.

patil wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:51 am Retrofitting Kessy in your Polo? :mrgreen:
-- > AFAIK -- kessy means key remain in my pocket and button starts the engine.
With my destiny and hard work -- I think I would limit my self to illuminating it while engine is on
However all my friends who made this possible -- gather their strength and patience -- would like to have start stop button to crank car (with key inserted in ignition)
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iichel wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:31 pm Surely looks like he is fitting kessy. Personally I'd take the 1k8 / 6v0 steering column trim with push button
iichel -- please correct me -- i think you have installed it. Too tired to search complete part numbers now @ 150AM

I would like to illuminate start stop button once engine is running. Need to find which fuse to tap.
Subsequently would love to start engine with this button. After I turn ignition on by inserting key.

Lets see.
Definitely not for next 15 days
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I used to have the Scirocco version - 1K8
now I have the Skoda Fabia III - 6V0858559B
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Cruise Control -- Completed

Before I begin to share my (less) knowledge 4 x Thanks to iichel
A big thanks to ciclo -- who had sold me stalks and wiring. Trust me (as mentioned in his listing viewtopic.php?p=524890#p524890) not only stocks were brand new but it had PERFECT wiring. It had all wiring labeled, couple of pins for different connectors, fuses, cable joints, zip tie and fabric cloth. If he sells anything --- just go ahead and buy one!!!

Also I would like to confess that this post would be useful for low IQ people like me. Or lack of parts and tool support made me think each step multiple times.
SOS iichel and ciclo.


Disconnect Battery

First thing was accessing BCM. Best thing is get rid of front driver seat. Put on few pillow and you would have relaxed posture to fight with BCM and wiring.
But we did not do anything as such. As a result it was one person sleeping across passenger and driver seat and other looking from driver side door.

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Mobile torch was not good enough so brought age old bulb and kept it on plastic lid at driver side foot.

Sometimes precise becomes biggest pain in ass but we can call it German Engineering!!!!
After removing BCM white connector with black tab with help of small screw driver. We need to push tabs and inside black connector is released.
Slide it up and down from either side from its grooves and we have all pin holes visible.

As mentioned previously eyes have become weaker and 6 eye balls, 3 mobile phone with zoom function -- finally made inserting pins a success.
That small click of connector locking was such a joy.

Then we moved our target to engine bay. Removed 6 Torx 20 screws of Air Filter top cover and moved it aside. This made accessing ECU less difficult.
Luckily ECU is just held in place with plastic tabs. Once we got it out we could access its big fat connector.
First is cut zip tie. Then remove the latch, pull it. Then slide purple color another glide mechanism. Wires every angle.

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I am still guessing why these OEM wires have electric tapes. And why are there no dummy plugs in unused connectors.
Now was another test for our eyes. Printout of ECU pins showed numbering very easily. And actual ECU with wires is different story.
Don't laugh but 3 of us pointed 3 different locations.
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Finally mechanic did the trick. He brought a thin, round long metal wire. Inserted it from bottom side where pins are numbered. And we found desired Pin number 45
I felt like why did I study this much.

On my request Ciclo had 2 possible types of connectors for ECU.

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so next thing was which to use. iichecl confirmed in less than a minutes time. We oriented the notch and inserted it and again sweet sound.
This inserted wire from ECU had to be connected to wire which was inside cabin. We located a spot which has rubber lock and it was bang behind accelerated pedal.

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Actual Rubber Connector Back Side

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Actual Rubber Connector Front Side

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I felt VW had kept this cover with precise hole just for this wire.

We put a sleeve on wire and then zip tied it and routed it towards ECU. Butt connector was too large for these 0.5mm sq wires. So we did electrician way. Open either ends of wire. Split the cores in half. Tie them with each other and electric tape. We made sure to have rubber sleeve before doing joint.

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Zip tied it in engine bay along some other tubes.

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Now the fuse box :|
Ciclo wire had a connector. So it should have been inserted in fuse box from behind. So we removed fuse box. But it was again German precision.
So decided to tap fuse from front. Many DIY had said tap Fuse SB11 with 5A. We had 10A fuse already there.

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SOS -- ciclo replied with slot 10 with 5A fuse. So we tapped it and then connected battery.

Current fuse box status

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Turned ignition ON and no Christmas lights.
Cranked engine and again no Christmas lights.

Connected to VCDS and did these two settings

09 -- Central Electronics -- Coding - 07 -- Long Coding Helper -- Head to Byte 17, enable Bit 7 which reads Cruise Control System (CCS) installed:
01 -- Engine -- Coding - 07 -- Long Coding Helper -- Byte 5 and enable Bit 5

We saved coding.
Drove out of garage bay. We toggled Cruise Control Stalk button to "ON" -- which is on Top side.
After 30 kmph we pressed set button (this is on end of stalks) and we got green cruise icon in instrument cluster.
But my friend who was driving felt we are decelerating. We pressed toggle buttons but no help.

Came back switched off car. Started it again. Checked if values were set correctly and they were.
Again drove and in quite crowded street could get cruise working. So may be it was working in first attempt but we could not verify it.

So here are many lessons learnt
  • Open all doors of car and don't shut them
  • If possible roll down all windows too.
  • Open tail door and don't shut it. I had many tools kept in boot and it got closed by someone.
  • NOW Disconnect Battery
  • Remove front seat if possible
  • And if you are lucky then -- you would have people online on this forum and reply quickly.
  • Anxiety is quite high and inserting pin in wrong numbered connector and then removing it would be another DIY

Parts used
  • Stalks 6R0953521B
  • Fuse Tap
  • Fuse 5A
  • Zip Ties Black Colored ;)
  • Electric Tape
  • Telsa cloth tape
  • Electric corrugated pipe. If you could then N10732401
Tool Used
  • Many mobile phone to light up area
  • Many mobile phones to click photo and zoom in to check numbering
  • Splicer
  • Cutter
  • Small screw driver
  • Plastic Pry tools
  • Spudger
  • iFixit Tool Kit -- which could be handy.

Some random error message on VCDS

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Latest VCDS Scan

Code: Select all

Saturday,11,December,2021,18:05:22:47040
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4555.4
Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWL14601FT043293   License Plate: MH12LM0095
Mileage: 8770km-5449mi   Repair Order: 11-Dec-2021



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Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44

VIN: WVWL14601FT043293   Mileage: 8770km-5449miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number:                CVN: 9408DB59
   Coding: 00250056232400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00793 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS021_VW25.rod
   VCID: 6D84C0DFDD1A82637C7-8038
   VINID: 9E69DC0441800569001030890CB4E08725

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 N    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 6561  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501407085037
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 63002 002 1048576
   VCID: 3A2E3B83D054E5DBA95-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BH    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2463422703C3461624724254C0800904
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0554987FE5AA5A23947-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 14081404650280
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA6F793807C09FBD5D-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 P    HW: 6R0 907 044 P
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0614  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 40DA496BBA88BF0BE71-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 R    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H34 0424  
   Revision: BF034001    Serial number: 0681 233141094
   Coding: 3AB82BBF08B30000003800006C2B049000C0414F608C0000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 4CC26D5B86C06B6B0B9-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AL    HW: 6R0 959 802 AL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13102576140821120301
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AH    HW: 6R0 959 801 AH  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13202579140804112607
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442     HW: 6C0 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H03 0015 
   Serial number: 1201410594800708AA1B
   Coding: 250000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L    HW: 6R0 959 811 L
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13102580140812095241
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L    HW: 6R0 959 812 L
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13202581140821150004
   Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW00VFBN2
   Coding: 003036
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 49CC544F89327E4330F-801C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RF 920 860 Q    HW: 6RF 920 860 Q
   Component: KOMBI         H02 0152  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140800
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04719
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 58EA810B429817CBBF1-800C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0424  
   Revision: BF034001    
   Coding: 002300
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 70BAD9ABCAA86F8B571-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H02 0152  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8ECBC3ECF4955B195-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:* 6Rx-909-144-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6RF 909 144 K    HW: 6RF 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ECU       H44 0401  
   Coding: 0000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSNSK 005005
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSNSK.rod
   VCID: 54F2753B5E7033AB539-8000

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:05, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.1V)-----------


Here is old 01 Coding

Engine Old
00250056230400080000
Engine New
00250056232400080000

Here is 09 Coding

Central Old
3AB82BBF08B30000003800006C2B04900040414F608C0000200000000000
Central New
3AB82BBF08B30000003800006C2B049000C0414F608C0000200000000000
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Re: Introducing my Lightning McQueen LM95

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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience.👍
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Engine under body protection

Currently my 1.2 TSI engine has this small guard 6RG825250
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Would like to get one like 6R0825902A (Petrol Vehicle) 6R0825901A (Diesel Vehicle) :
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It comes as a Kit
Any idea if this 6R0825902A would fit my car?

PRsearch for the codes related to two guards returned this:
PRCode: 1SB = Additional engine and transmission guard
PRCode: T70 = 3-cylinder gasoline engine 1.2 L unit 03E.A (aluminum)
PRCode: TF3 = 4-cylinder diesel engine 1.6 L 03L.1
PRCode: TK0 = 4-cylinder gasoline engine 1.4 L unit 03C.1
PRCode: TL0 = 4-cylinder gasoline engine 1.6 L unit 03C.2

Why am I not doing at authorized service center?
First let me get confirmation here it would fit.
Secondly let VW bill and hand over it to me.
Then you would have story :lol:
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Occupying all boot and rear seat

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Some details

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Printed MRP + 15% (of MRP) Labor charges + Taxes on Labor Charges and it was in my boot (for DIY)

" ........ altered car ........."
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I was at VW dealer few days back for some work, I enquired about fixing same engine guard on my 6R. They refused outrightly saying that it won't fit perfectly on Polo with DSG gearboxes, and they wouldn't recommend it either. They say some part of this guard fouls with DSG unit, and in case of underbelly scrapping the gearbox takes a double blow. :shock:

I have done almost 100000km on my 6R DSG, never did once I felt I needed any underbelly protection. Touchwood🤟
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Hey patil, nice to read your reply.
Congratulations of nearly 100000 running!!!!

My experience with dealers is not very pleasing. After finding right person to talks -- First answer I got is/was NO.
As soon as you put a sticker or remove a sticker or put a garland dealer would say warranty void. So what we dream or do is outright warranty void.
I am glad that they let me take my "ALTERED CAR" inside their premises :D

As for the guard --
1.0 TSi is fitted with this guard by dealer.
1.2 TSi were fitted (as per same forum)
1.6 TDi came factory fitted in some batches
They opened a work order with my car VIN.
Person who sold me this said --
  • it is compatible.
  • we have fitted it.
  • you have to take car on ramp.
  • remove bumper.
  • No need to remove fender lining or anything else.
So lets see what need to be done -- will share my experience here.
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ag69 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:51 am
So all experienced and DIY enthusiast, could you please help me with following questions:
1) I have brought a 6C0419091H steering wheel with paddles shifts.
So do i need any wiring to be done to activate it?

2) How can i connect the tweeters (6R6867233 and 6R6867234) to existing music system.
Hi, could you share the source for the steering wheel and an image please?
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PandaGTTSI -- I had sourced it from Poland. Somehow I cant locate the seller anymore.
You can check ebay if you can find exact part.
Sometime ago, I had seen similar on Vagtune. GermanDNA are could be useful. As both of them seem to be interesting mods.

You can check photos here : viewtopic.php?p=567244#p567244

However here are few for you:

Front
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Back
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Engine under body protection -- Continues

Before I begin to write and explain about our never ever smooth experience. I would like to unveil my friend Mandar and his team who have been helping me with all these DIY's.
A big thanks Mandar -- for being part of experts and friends who are helping me fulfill my dream. He is been with me even before I bought the car. And also schooled/schools me about my theory with hands on as well as practicals!!!

A bit of background links:

viewtopic.php?p=588045#p588045
viewtopic.php?p=588075#p588075

As we opened the box. We had a tie member or lock carrier, guard, side bracket wrapped neatly, Hex bolts and Rivveted caps in plastic bag.

Part Number:

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Outside of Sump Guard :

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Inside of Sump Guard:

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Support Bracket Left:

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Support Bracket Right:

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Support Bracket Side view :

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Trust me these Bracket can cause serious injuries if you hit someone.

Hex Bolt and Rivveted caps

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Bolts
  • 1 For each for Support Bracket (2 nos)
  • 2 For guard on each side (4 nos)
  • 3 For far end of guard (3 nos)
Total of 9 Hex Bolts and 5 Rivetted caps

With help of trolley hydraulic Jack we put car on Jack Stands. Slide under the car to check if and how can we put the side brackets (6R0825921 & 6R0825922).
With very less access we removed the wheels and 28 screws :D and off came wheel fender liner and mud flaps. And we could check how the metal brackets would fit.

Yours truly under the car -- The car chassis member has a big hole and an hexagonal hole.

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Idea was to put the rivetted cap nut but it was not staying in place. We did not have so called specialized tool so tried to fit it with existing spanners.

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and other way around

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So inserted finger through big hole and tried to hold the cap from inside and tighten the hex collar bolt. But it could not.
Also it got loose and was inside the rectangular hollow chassis but we used screwdriver, magnet and fingers to get it out.
Finally we decided to put hex bolt from inside and secured it with a nut.
Did same on other side. There was existing cover v-belt (6RG825250). Unscrewed 4 Torx 25. Then we took the sump guard and tried to align holes and see how the rest would have to be fitted.
Front part has two slots on either side which glide in. We had to change side member by few degrees so as to align holes.
Rear 3 holes could be aligned. And we got assurance this would fit without any alterations.

These are 3 holes in rear. Two on either side and one in center. Two either side did not have any space to work or insert bolt or cap.
One side:

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Other side:

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Center one was at least accessible.

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As we were trying to invent ideas from make hexagonal rivetted cap square, remove lower arm and finally zip tie. Anna slid under the car and put bolt from inside, used a nut to tighten it. Then would be guard and another nut to tighten it. So we got center location secured. Then he just banged either side rivetted caps and they just got locked.

Front support brackets were not fully tightened. No matter how much we tried bolt head inside could not be reached or locked. So as of now it is tightened as much as possible.

After a lot of efforts:

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We were left with both ie 2 N90448004 ie rivetted cap nut to be used for support bracket
and one of three N90942001ie rivetted cap nut to be used for rear side of guard. We could not fix this in center location.
And 32 Torx screws from both fenders and v-belt guard.

Parts used
  • 6RG805PET-Kit
  • Nuts
Tool Used
  • Trolley Hydraulic Jack
  • Jack Stands
  • Torx T25 Screw Driver
  • Spanners
  • Magnet
Both fender linings and mud flaps are not installed.
Planning to drive around and see if anything becomes loose, anything vibrates or any noise or anything.
Also if time permits -- would get fender lining washed and shining ;)
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