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Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:52 pm
by firebulletz
Hi,
I'm sorry if I do not speak excellent English, but I'm Italian and I try to do my best.
I own a Polo comfortline 2011 1.6 tdi 90cv, to which I mounted the cruise control and the additional wiring to be able to view the car's values on the speedometer.
I mounted the steering wheel of a golf mk7 r-line by connecting the two additional cables (+ 12v and lin signal), but the keys do not work and do not light up.
My onboard unit (bcm) is 6r0937087k (28.08.11).
Is the bcm that is old and i can't use the keys of steering wheel, or the problem is more than one?
What bcm i need to connect this steering wheel?
I have a chinese radio with integrated CanBus. But the canbus has no connector to connect, only 4 pins on it and on the other side the connector that goes to the car radio cables.
Also, do I need to insert a fuse on fuses connector?
Thank you,
Salvatore
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Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:01 pm
by iichel
so a short list of ideas
check wiring at slip ring connector (12V, linbus)
check for correct airbag wiring loom
vcds:
check whether the module is recognized
check coding
check advanced measurement values for the buttons
i don't know whether your chinese radio will work
Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:34 am
by firebulletz
iichel wrote:so a short list of ideas
check wiring at slip ring connector (12V, linbus)
check for correct airbag wiring loom
vcds:
check whether the module is recognized
check coding
check advanced measurement values for the buttons
i don't know whether your chinese radio will work
The wiring and the airbag cables are connected correctly. The coding was performed correctly, the same as a guy who installed the steering wheel with commands of a golf mk6 on a polo 6r without steering wheel controls.
He did all the electrician.
Now i think that the problems are two:
- bcm
- radio can-bus
1) Normally the radio canbus where is connected?
2) For first i have, certainly to change the bcm. I have seen one people that have used a bcm with the code "6r0 937 087 t" to connect the same steering wheel controls that i want to connect.
But to change it i have to do additional wiring?
In future i want to change tachometer with mfa+, install xenon light (not oem), coming/leaving home with automatic switch light and add rain sensor. The 6r0 937 087 t is compatible with this optional or i need to install 7e0937090?
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Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:31 pm
by ciclo
firebulletz wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:34 am
iichel wrote:so a short list of ideas
check wiring at slip ring connector (12V, linbus)
check for correct airbag wiring loom
vcds:
check whether the module is recognized
check coding
check advanced measurement values for the buttons
i don't know whether your chinese radio will work
The wiring and the airbag cables are connected correctly. The coding was performed correctly, the same as a guy who installed the steering wheel with commands of a golf mk6 on a polo 6r without steering wheel controls.
He did all the electrician.
Even the best masters make mistakes.
Now i think that the problems are two:
- bcm
- radio can-bus
1) Normally the radio canbus where is connected?
comfort CAN Lines.
2) For first i have, certainly to change the bcm. I have seen one people that have used a bcm with the code "6r0 937 087 t" to connect the same steering wheel controls that i want to connect.
But to change it i have to do additional wiring?
NO
In future i want to change tachometer with mfa+, install xenon light (
not oem), coming/leaving home with automatic switch light and add rain sensor. The 6r0 937 087 t is compatible with this optional (
no) or i need to install 7e0937090 (
yes)?
You need to talk to firegrafik. 7E0937090 B/C are perfect.
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VCDS?
Autoscan?
radio pics?
Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:57 pm
by firebulletz
ciclo wrote:firebulletz wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:34 am
iichel wrote:so a short list of ideas
check wiring at slip ring connector (12V, linbus)
check for correct airbag wiring loom
vcds:
check whether the module is recognized
check coding
check advanced measurement values for the buttons
i don't know whether your chinese radio will work
The wiring and the airbag cables are connected correctly. The coding was performed correctly, the same as a guy who installed the steering wheel with commands of a golf mk6 on a polo 6r without steering wheel controls.
He did all the electrician.
Even the best masters make mistakes. [emoji38]
Now i think that the problems are two:
- bcm
- radio can-bus
1) Normally the radio canbus where is connected?
comfort CAN Lines.
2) For first i have, certainly to change the bcm. I have seen one people that have used a bcm with the code "6r0 937 087 t" to connect the same steering wheel controls that i want to connect.
But to change it i have to do additional wiring?
NO
In future i want to change tachometer with mfa+, install xenon light (
not oem), coming/leaving home with automatic switch light and add rain sensor. The 6r0 937 087 t is compatible with this optional (
no) or i need to install 7e0937090 (
yes)?
You need to talk to firegrafik. 7E0937090 B/C are perfect.
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VCDS?
Autoscan?
radio pics?
I have to go to my electrician to do an autoscan. Tomorrow i will upload photos of my radio and his canbus
And if I wanted to change my bcm in bcm max (7e0937090) I would need more wiring to make the steering wheel controls work?
Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:35 pm
by ciclo
There are many possible reasons why your MFSW buttons are not working. Have you considered buying some suitable buttons (1K8), not from the Golf mk7?
Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:07 am
by firebulletz
ciclo wrote:There are many possible reasons why your MFSW buttons are not working. Have you considered buying some suitable buttons (1K8), not from the Golf mk7?
Yes, but i love this steering wheel ahaha
What are the possible reasons?
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Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:27 pm
by ciclo
firebulletz wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:07 am
Yes, but i love this steering wheel ahaha
I mean to this:
https://www.ebay.es/itm/VW-GOLF-7-GTI-G ... 1438.l2649
1K8
firebulletz wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:07 am
What are the possible reasons?
Waiting VCDS autoscan...
Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:07 pm
by firebulletz
This steering wheel controls (1k8) are compatible with my bcm?
For autoscan i am waiting to go to my electrician
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Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:58 pm
by ciclo
Yes. In fact they are the best we can install in our 6R.
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1290#p498666
The problem is that your BCM (old) does not provide the signal to illuminate the buttons.
The buttons that you have currently installed have another additional problems.
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By the way, visit the ebay store of the previous link, for those are interested in this matter.
Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:30 am
by firebulletz
ciclo wrote:Yes. In fact they are the best we can install in our 6R.
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1290#p498666
The problem is that your BCM (old) does not provide the signal to illuminate the buttons.
The buttons that you have currently installed have another additional problems. [emoji38]
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By the way, visit the ebay store of the previous link, for those are interested in this matter.
In ebay link there are two switch buttons:
1k8959422 - with red leds
5g0959442l - with white leds
I want to change all leds of my polo in white. The 5g0959442l work with my original bcm, or work only 1k8959422?
These buttons are good to control the mfa+ (when i will change it in future)?
If i will buy bcm max (150€ shipped) the buttons that have now my steering wheel will works? Because i will spend the same money to buy bcm or this buttons.
What do you suggest?
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Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:48 am
by ciclo
My suggestion?... VCDS autoscan...
In any case, you can buy the 1K8 buttons and change the LEDs color to white.
There are Golf MK7 buttons that work in our 6R but it's impossible to get a correct scan of them. So...
Again, your current buttons have other additional problems... VCDS autoscan.
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By the way, how many inches is the TV (sorry, I mean radio) that you have installed?
Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:49 pm
by firebulletz
ciclo wrote:My suggestion?... VCDS autoscan... [emoji38]
In any case, you can buy the 1K8 buttons and change the LEDs color to white.
There are Golf MK7 buttons that work in our 6R but it's impossible to get a correct scan of them. So...
Again, your current buttons have other additional problems... VCDS autoscan.
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By the way, how many inches is the TV (sorry, I mean radio) that you have installed?
The radio is 10.1 inches. Is this:
SINOSMART 10.1 ''di Sostegno 4G RAM 2G/1G Android 6.0 Auto Lettore Navigazione GPS per Volkswagen Polo 2012-2017 Opzionale Canbus
http://s.aliexpress.com/Yrm6N73Q?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard
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Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:53 pm
by firebulletz
And this is the additional canbus:
http://s.aliexpress.com/FVVjQnEJ?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard
(from AliExpress Android)
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Re: Retrofit golf mk7 steering wheel on polo mk5
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:41 pm
by ciclo
wow! nice device.
Do you have the installation instructions for the CANBUS decoder?
I mean to the wires assignment...