Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

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Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by Skyscript » Thu May 16, 2019 9:47 pm

Hey guys,

I own a Seat ibiza 6j 1.2TSI from 2013, with :
-H7 Halogen lights
-Heated Seats
-fog lights
-Headlight washers
-automatic air conditioning
ect.

Unfortunately without Auto Light with CH/LH and rain sensor.
My plan was to retrofit the rain / light sensor on the glass and then to activate the automatic light.
I already mounted the rain / light sensor on the glass and wired it.
On the way there I found out that my BCM (6R0937087P)only supports the rain function, so i bought the 7H0937090B.
After switching and coding the BCM i noticed that there is no turning Signal, no light in the instrument cluster and the windows, radio key are not working.

I read a lot in this forum, especially from ciclo and figured out that i have maybe to connect Pin 28 and 29 from the Instrument cluster with the BCM 54/57 Pins is this correct ?
Furthermore, I need help to get the Auto light with CH/LH wiring.

would be nice if someone could help me.
Thanks in advance and I'm sorry for any mistakes.

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by Skyscript » Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:05 pm

Update:

BCM is working wiring from T73b/57 to T32/29 and T73b54 to T32/28 was necessary.
Furthermore, I have connected the following cable :

Dimmed headlights :
T73a/2 to T101/6
T73b/2 to T10a/6
SC57 to T73a/63
SC58 to T73b68
and bridged the J331 Relay T10d/3B to T10d/5B.

Following wiring need to be done :
T73a/37 to T17/12
T73a/45 to T17/13 (isolate original)
T73a/6 to T17/9 (Pinout and connect)

T73b/43 to T17/9
T73b/4 to E20 T6f/3 (isolate original)
T73b/7 to T17/16 (Pinout and connect)

bridge from T17/16 to T17/5
is this correct ?

Now I do not understand why I need the Relai J828 although after the removal of the J331 headlight flasher still work.

Picture of Relay Carrier :
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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by Skyscript » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:46 pm

Update 2:

Right now i understand why i need the Relai J828, its for the High Beam in Auto Light position.

I did the wiring above and have currently the following Problems :

-The front fog lamps do not light when activated at the switch. However, on the Corning
Light function. Also the rear fog lights do not work.

-Error 00457 Tried to solve this by setting adaption channel 1 to value 1. Did not work :(
The fan of the Climatronic does not work when the ignition is on. However, when the engine is on.

-Rainsensor does not work. (wrong coding i guess)
-Error 02195 something is wrong with the Light Dimmer Switch
-Coming Home is not working

So the good news are :

- Leaving Home is working.
- Auto-Light also :D
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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by ciclo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:37 pm

Skyscript wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:05 pm
Update:

BCM is working wiring from T73b/57 to T32/29 and T73b54 to T32/28 was necessary.
Furthermore, I have connected the following cable :

Dimmed headlights :
T73a/2 to T101/6
T73b/2 to T10a/6
SC57 to T73a/63
SC58 to T73b68
and bridged the J331 Relay T10d/3B to T10d/5B.

Following wiring need to be done :
T73a/37 to T17/12
T73a/45 to T17/13 (isolate original)
T73a/6 to T17/9 (Pinout and connect)

T73b/43 to T17/9
T73b/4 to E20 T6f/3 (isolate original)
T73b/7 to T17/16 (Pinout and connect)

bridge from T17/16 to T17/5

is this correct ?

Now I do not understand why I need the Relai J828 although after the removal of the J331 headlight flasher still work.

Picture of Relay Carrier :
https://ibb.co/2jg7kf1
Yes. Verified.

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by ciclo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:44 pm

Full Autoscan, please.

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by Skyscript » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:00 pm

Hey ciclo,

thanks for your time and work i appreciate it.

Every time i try to post my Scan i get the message "Forbidden. Contains contacts. Message seems to be spam."
I don't now what i have to change to post it.

greeting
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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by ciclo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:10 pm

It's weird.

Try posting it without including the web page, "www.Ross-Tech.com"

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by ciclo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:22 pm

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... rol_Module
1
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... ctory_Mode (check, 0 value)
2
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... l_Clearing (clear)
3
Channel 001: Remote Control Matching

1st key
Start Matching new/additional Remote Controls by entering 0 for the New Value, then [Test] and [Save] the New Value.
Press and hold the Unlock button for at least one second on the Remote Control you want to add, the Blinkers will light up to confirm the Adaptation Process of each Remote Control.

2nd key
Start Matching new/additional Remote Controls by entering 0 for the New Value, then [Test] and [Save] the New Value.
Press and hold the Unlock button for at least one second on the Remote Control you want to add, the Blinkers will light up to confirm the Adaptation Process of each Remote Control.

and so on... 3,4,5,X keys...

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by Skyscript » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:42 pm

So another try to post my Scan:

Code: Select all

Dienstag,18,Juni,2019,12:29:35:56266
VCDS -- Windows-basierter VAG/VAS-Emulator läuft auf Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: DRV 18.9.0.2  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Datenstand: 20181017 DS296.0


Betriebsnummer: 123 12345 123456

Fahrzeug-Ident.-Nr.: VSSZZZ6JZER007887   KFZ-Kennzeichen: 
Kilometerstand: 114830km   Reparaturauftrag: Michael AKTUELL



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Fahrzeugtyp: 6J-SE25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 4B 56

Fahrzeug-Ident.-Nr.: VSSZZZ6JZER007887   Kilometerstand: 114830km

01-Motorelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
03-Bremsenelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
04-Lenkwinkelsensor -- Status: i.O. 0000
08-Klima-/Heizungsel. -- Status: Fehler 0010
09-Zentralelektrik -- Status: Fehler 0010
15-Airbag -- Status: i.O. 0000
17-Schalttafeleinsatz -- Status: i.O. 0000
19-Diagnoseinterface -- Status: i.O. 0000
25-Wegfahrsperre -- Status: i.O. 0000
44-Lenkhilfe -- Status: i.O. 0000
4B-Multifunktionsstg. -- Status: i.O. 0000
56-Radio -- Status: i.O. 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Adresse 01: Motorelektronik (J623-CBZB)       Labeldatei:. DRV\03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 03F 906 070 GR    HW: 03F 907 309 AE
   Bauteil: SIMOS10.22AH10 5485  
   Revision: --H10---    Seriennummer:               
   Codierung: 001100D6200400080000
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 00049 770 00143
   ASAM Datensatz: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070GR 004007
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
   VCID: 78A81887725EF767A65-802C

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Adresse 03: Bremsenelektronik (J104)       Labeldatei:. DRV\6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 6R0 907 379 AS    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Bauteil: ESP9.0i front H02 0002  
   Seriennummer: --------------
   Codierung: 11DD287D212300C7881C1471845800480905
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 00049 770 00143
   ASAM Datensatz: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0F7A435B67D0D0DF17F-805A

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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Adresse 04: Lenkwinkelsensor (G085)       Labeldatei:* DRV\6R0-959-654.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Bauteil: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Seriennummer: 29051304651073
   Codierung: 01
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Datensatz: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA40E9F507AC957EC9-802A

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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Adresse 08: Klima-/Heizungsel. (J255)       Labeldatei: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 6J0 820 043 E    HW: 6J0 820 043 E
   Bauteil: Climatronic   H03 0808  
   Revision: S0000000    
   VCID: 261406FFE8EAB197C49-8072

1 Fehler gefunden:
00457 - Steuergerät für Bordnetz (J519) 
            013 - bitte Fehlerspeicher auslesen
             Umgebungsbedingungen:
                    Fehlerstatus: 01101101
                    Fehlerpriorität: 6
                    Fehlerhäufigkeit: 1
                    Verlernzähler: 233
                    Kilometerstand: 114838 km
                    Zeitangabe: 0
                    Datum: 2013.11.08
                    Zeit: 16:09:38


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Adresse 09: Zentralelektrik (J519)       Labeldatei:. DRV\7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 7H0 937 090 B    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Bauteil: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0712  
   Revision: B9074001    Seriennummer: 0571 341130505
   Codierung: 7A882BE88861010001200EC07ECB9FD800404220008C6041200000000000
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 12345 123 123456
   VCID: 2D06F9D3CD1C82CF053-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Teilenummer: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labeldatei: DRV\1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Bauteil: RLS 210311 05  54  0403 
   Codierung: 33242D

   Subsystem 2 - Teilenummer SW: 6R0 959 801 AJ    HW: 6R0 959 801 AJ  Labeldatei: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Bauteil: J386__TSG_FT  006 5110 
   Seriennummer: 12202557130528011642
   Codierung: 020000

   Subsystem 3 - Teilenummer SW: 6R0 959 802 AQ    HW: 6R0 959 802 AQ  Labeldatei: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Bauteil: J387__TSG_BT  006 5110 
   Seriennummer: 12202560130528060752
   Codierung: 020000

1 Fehler gefunden:
02195 - Regler für Beleuchtung - Schalter und Instrumente (E20) 
            008 - unplausibles Signal
             Umgebungsbedingungen:
                    Fehlerstatus: 01101000
                    Fehlerpriorität: 3
                    Fehlerhäufigkeit: 1
                    Verlernzähler: 233
                    Kilometerstand: 114838 km
                    Zeitangabe: 0
                    Datum: 2013.11.08
                    Zeit: 16:09:40


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Adresse 15: Airbag (J234)       Labeldatei:| DRV\5K0-959-655.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Bauteil: VW10AirbagA09 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Seriennummer: 003GX01R7U4Z
   Codierung: 003039
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 00049 770 00111
   ASAM Datensatz: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4ACC924F5C32B5F7001-801E

   Crashsensor für Seitenairbag Fahrerseite: 
   Seriennummer: 3495RRB400250GJ2OPQ.

   Crashsensor für Seitenairbag Beifahrerseite: 
   Seriennummer: 3505RRB401650HHORH3R

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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Adresse 17: Schalttafeleinsatz (J285)       Labeldatei:| DRV\5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Teilenummer SW: 6J0 920 806 K    HW: 6J0 920 806 K
   Bauteil: KOMBI         H01 0709  
   Seriennummer: 00000000000000
   Codierung: 110E01
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 00049 770 00143
   ASAM Datensatz: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: 3430ECB72EB6D3074AD-8060

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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Adresse 19: Diagnoseinterface (J533)       Labeldatei:. DRV\6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Bauteil: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0712  
   Revision: B9074001    
   Codierung: 022200
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 12345 123 123456
   VCID: 70B820A71AAEAF276E5-8024

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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Adresse 25: Wegfahrsperre (J334)       Labeldatei:| DRV\5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Bauteil: IMMO          H01 0709  
   Seriennummer:               
   Codierung: 000000
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Datensatz: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8C32CF3CF255F7201-803E

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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Adresse 44: Lenkhilfe        Labeldatei: DRV\6Q0-423-156.clb
   Teilenummer: 6R0 423 156 C
   Bauteil: LenkhilfeTRW        V278  
   Codierung: 11211
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 00049  
   VCID: 3038E0A7D36EEF272E5-8064

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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Adresse 4B: Multifunktionsstg.        Labeldatei: DRV\6J0-959-441.clb
   Teilenummer: 6J0 959 441 A
   Bauteil: MF-Modul       0007 0001  
   Codierung: 0000002
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 77005 000 00000
   VCID: 313EE5A3DD24E62F21B-8064

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

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Adresse 56: Radio (J503)       Labeldatei:. DRV\5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Teilenummer SW: 6J0 035 156     HW: 6J0 035 156 
   Bauteil: Radio         H07 0012  
   Revision: R0000000    Seriennummer: SEZAZ1N6256030
   Codierung: 010004080203
   Betriebsnr.: WSC 00049 770 00143
   VCID: 64905CF7DE5603871AD-8030

Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.

Ende--------(Dauer: 01:04, Batt.-Spannung Start/Ende: 12.6V/12.4V)---------

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by Skyscript » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:48 pm

I changed the BCM already and coded it. Everything works so far except the above described things.
If you need further pictures or more informations i will post them asap.

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by ciclo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:01 pm

while I verify the RLS and BCM codings, please, post an old Autoscan with the old BCM 087, ... with all units OK, if possible. thanks.

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by ciclo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:05 pm

RLS
new coding
07302D

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by ciclo » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:32 pm

There are some Bytes in your BCM Max coding that are not correct, ... it is better to wait to see the old Autoscan with your old BCM High 087. Tomorrow.

With the new RLS coding the rain sensor should work correctly.

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by ciclo » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:28 am

BCM Max 7H0937090B
new coding
7A8829E88861010001200EF07ECB9FD80F4063A9608C2049200000020000

1
If with the new BCM coding the problem of the dimmer (E20) is not solved you'll have to change the terminal from T73b/4 to T73b/1 to feed the 58d signal. (same new coding)

2
It is possible that according to your personal tastes or installed bulbs (LEDs, etc) you want to change some behavior of the lights (DRLs, or others), so the new coding can be modified.

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Post a new Autoscan with the new BCM and RLS codings (for future readers/users). With a little luck, all units will be OK.

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Re: Seat Ibiza 6j Upgrading BCM and Auto light with CH/LH

Post by Skyscript » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:10 pm

Thanks for your coding.
Unfortunately I have no vcds and my friend who owns vcds is on holiday until the 29th.
He has all my scans. I will post the scan from the 87 BCM and try the new coding when he returns.
I want upgrade to full led headlights from Seat Leon or Ateca if possible soon.

Were the problems with the fog lights and climatronic caused by the wrong coding?
Is it possible to activate the interior light only when it is dark?

Thank you a lot

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