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Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:52 pm
by Boxerboy
650 miles. Ouch!
I’m running winter tyres now, but was cleaning and storing the OEM wheels that were removed a few weeks ago when I found a nasty cut.
Can’t see any canvas, but now I don’t feel I can re-use this one with a known fault.
No point in asking a tyre shop - I know their answer.
I do remember a pot hole during the first few days, but didn’t spot the problem immediately.
Oponeo seem to keep a Primacy 3 that will match.
Will make a good spare
I’ll sleep on it.
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:08 pm
by SRGTD
If it was mine, I think I’d replace it.
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:34 pm
by monkeyhanger
Bin it immediately! Don't even drive to the tyre place with it. If that goes even at slow speed, it'll wreck your wheel as it is likely to split and deflate immediately if the cords go.
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:56 pm
by stevereeves
Yeah, bin it mate it'll soon get down to canvas and it could destroy itself at any time. Happened to me, had nail-size hole in centre tread fixed, seemed ok but still got constant tyre pressure warnings (so the car 'knew'), gave VW all kinds of grief over it, found out less than a month / 100miles later at MOT-time the small hole had opened up with threads showing, annoying but best suck it up and get a new tyre....
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:07 pm
by silverhairs
How much damage do you think a tyre has to have before it's dangerous to use on the road, would you gamble with your families lives with that tyre?
IT'S DANGEROUS TO USE, SCRAP IT AND PURCHASE A NEW TYRE!!!!!!!
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:40 pm
by Boxerboy
silverhairs wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:07 pm
How much damage do you think a tyre has to have before it's dangerous to use on the road, would you gamble with your families lives with that tyre?
IT'S DANGEROUS TO USE, SCRAP IT AND PURCHASE A NEW TYRE!!!!!!!
NO NEED TO SHOUT
I wasn’t really taking a vote on it - just making conversation.
New tyre arrived today, an old 2018 model, and it’s being fitted as I type.
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:32 am
by silverhairs
It wasn't just for conversation, you thought you might get the thumbs up from members, so you would be able to keep it on the car and save a few quid. Think yourself lucky the police didn't stop you, it would have added 3 or more points to your licence! As a danger to other members of the public!
If I get a tyre that's not repairable, and it's got about 10,000 miles wear, I scrap both tyres on that axle, whether it be front or back. I like to have the same wear on both wheels, not 7mm on one and 4mm on the other.
Tyres are the only thing between you, the car and the road. The foot print of the tyre is not very big, and the amount of stress on the side walls?
Then you post a picture with a big gash in the side wall and ask "Is it a write off" and you call it a conversation???
Have you noticed, I haven't shouted. But I'm glad to see you have purchased a new tyre.
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:01 pm
by RUM4MO
Michelin Primacy on a Polo GTI+ - hum I thought they were reserved for lower powered cars, but maybe not.
It was Michelin Primacy that originally forced me to start fitting Winter tyres in colder weather, again Michelin, but Alpins and Alpin Pilot- I've nothing against Michelin tyres, but Exalto and Primacy in Scotland seemed a good idea in Summer, not so in Winter.
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:00 pm
by monkeyhanger
RUM4MO wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:01 pm
Michelin Primacy on a Polo GTI+ - hum I thought they were reserved for lower powered cars, but maybe not.
It was Michelin Primacy that originally forced me to start fitting Winter tyres in colder weather, again Michelin, but Alpins and Alpin Pilot- I've nothing against Michelin tyres, but Exalto and Primacy in Scotland seemed a good idea in Summer, not so in Winter.
Polo GTI+ gets touring tyres not performance tyres.
17" Parkers get Michelin Primacy
18" Brescia get awful Bridgestone Turanza
Only seems to be the case for the UK market though, dark-cze and a few others here from central or eastern Europe get better rubber. Must be a conscious decision by VW UK to specify lesser tyres, presumably down to price.
Similarly, I've had the equally poor Bridgestone Potenzas on 3 different new Golfs, yet other European markets generally get Continental or Goodyear for same car.
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:27 pm
by SRGTD
monkeyhanger wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:00 pm
Polo GTI+ gets touring tyres not performance tyres.
17" Parkers get Michelin Primacy
18" Brescia get awful Bridgestone Turanza
Only seems to be the case for the UK market though, dark-cze and a few others here from central or eastern Europe get better rubber. Must be a conscious decision by VW UK to specify lesser tyres, presumably down to price.
Similarly, I've had the equally poor Bridgestone Potenzas on 3 different new Golfs, yet other European markets generally get Continental or Goodyear for same car.
I’ve seen videos on YouTube of non-UK market Polo GTI’s with Brescia alloys fitted with Bridgestone Turanza tyres, so it’s not just the UK that gets these.
The video at the link below is of an Australian GTI and at 7min 28sec the reviewer refers to the standard Michelin Primacy tyres and at 7min 47sec, they refer to the Bridgestone Turanzas fitted to the 18” wheels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=retOhF-tJg8
And another Australian GTI here with Bridgestone Turanza tyres - at 2min 11sec in the video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSAI6V-zsrk
And here’s one of a Dutch GTI with Bridgestone tyres - seen at 50sec in the video below;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1evr6NsrSjo
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:24 pm
by monkeyhanger
More widespread than I thought. Begs the question why VW put such crap tyres on if not for cost. Bridgestones aren't that cheap and sales angle is that of a premium tyre because they make F1 tyres.
If VW do their official performance figures with Bridgestones on, they'd probably shave half a second off the 0-62 time as they tramp like no other mainstream premium tyre.
Re: Tyre damage - is it a write off?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:08 pm
by RUM4MO
monkeyhanger wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:00 pm
Polo GTI+ gets touring tyres not performance tyres.
17" Parkers get Michelin Primacy
18" Brescia get awful Bridgestone Turanza
Only seems to be the case for the UK market though, dark-cze and a few others here from central or eastern Europe get better rubber. Must be a conscious decision by VW UK to specify lesser tyres, presumably down to price.
Similarly, I've had the equally poor Bridgestone Potenzas on 3 different new Golfs, yet other European markets generally get Continental or Goodyear for same car.
Okay, I suppose even my 2000 VW Passat 2.8V6 4Motion came with touring tyres - but that car was a mile munching tourer, my mistake was replacing the original Goodyear Tourer tyres with similar tyres from Michelin, ie Primacy HP, things got better when I then bought a set of used Audi B5 A4 wheels and put something more inspiring on them ZR rated, forgotten the brand and kept the original alloys for winter use with Michelin Alpins.