Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max + Other Mods

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Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max + Other Mods

Post by til3tsio »

Hi I am writing here because Polo 6R and Toledo NH are very similar in electronics
my name is Tilemachos and I just find this forum while I was looking for some mods.
A year ago, I bought a well used 1.6 TDI Seat Toledo because family got bigger and was after a not so expensive car with heaps of trunk space.
It is a Style edition with some extra options. I remapped the ecu to 130hp and within this year I made the following retrofits, all with genuine parts:
- VW Passat W8 front Dome light
- Audi A3 rear dome light with illuminated buttons
- Front Under seat trays
- Golf 7 sport pedals
- Washer fluid sensor
- Alarm siren, with interior sensor and buttons
- Footwell lights
- Seat RNS-315 Navigation
- Rear 3K OPS
- Rear view camera
- Led licence plate lights
And some other little things.

Next in line are Direct TPMS, Auto diming mirror, Rain-Light sensor, front OPS, and auto lights with CH/LH function.
As I understood after reading many threads, I need to update my High BCM to a MAX model.
I was trying to find the 7E0 revisions just for futureproofing but all the units that I found are too expensive.
So as a cheaper alternative I think that I will get a 7H0937090D if everything is going to work as supposed to.

As I am new to vag cars any help would be appreciated.
I am posting my latest autoscan if anyone wants to suggest something.

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Saturday,13,February,2021,16:53:45:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZNHZtil3tsio   License Plate: 
Mileage: 69450km-43154mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: NH-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 56 77

VIN: VSSZZZNHZFtil3tsio   Mileage: 69450km-43154miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LD    HW: 03L 906 023 Q
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H33 9972  
   Revision: --H33---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114016002400080000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LD 003010
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LL.rod
   VCID: 73E56ACBDAB5211C0F-8026

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 1000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 F    HW: 1S0 614 517 F
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H16 0022  
   Serial number: A00OXLH
   Coding: 53CC487889AE00F8CAFE12F591AE00402F0D00
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW 002004
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW_002_SK25.rod
   VCID: 326BAFCF652F6814C4-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6JA 907 044 A    HW: 6JA 907 044 A
   Component: Climatronic   H05 0106  
   Revision: A1001000    Serial number:  1409091A-0329
   VCID: 3A7B87EFB55F90540C-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 R    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H34 0424  
   Revision: BF034001    Serial number: 0681 314140371
   Coding: 7A980B0000D32400920808306C0B14C00E80400F608E0000020000004000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00113
   VCID: 4C97D137EFCB1EE4AE-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5J0 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor H0  H03 1211 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 5J0 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor H0  H03 1211 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6JA 919 719 D    HW: 6JA 919 719 D
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H04 0130 
   Serial number: 000000000A0834130814
   Coding: 001000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 919 475 B    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32931715705623
   Coding: 308005
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000 001009
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000.rod
   VCID: 397998E3B8599B4C05-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 34D 959 655 B    HW: 34D 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW20    005 0366  
   Serial number: 003K7R051XKU
   Coding: 88CCC00000000000540000CA000000000065
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253 001110
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253.rod
   VCID: 3467A9D79F3B6624D6-8060

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 710 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  003 0148 
   Serial number: 349001A011523162BF1W
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 410 811 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  003 0148 
   Serial number: 350001A01202FAA32D1Z
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 710 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  003 0148 
   Serial number: 351001A011523C62FE94
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 410 811 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  003 0148 
   Serial number: 352001A01202FE726C73
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6JA 920 840 E    HW: 6JA 920 840 E
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0711  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110E01
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_SK25.rod
   VCID: 3D718CF3AC71A76C29-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0424  
   Revision: BF034001    
   Coding: 322200
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00113
   VCID: 70EF65C7A3A31A04F2-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0711  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6ADB77AF8D7FE0D4BC-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666859729    
   Coding: 030100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   VCID: 2B55B2AB4A0539DC87-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 6JA 035 192 L    HW: 6JA 035 192 L
   Component: RNS315-EU   H85 0501  
   Serial number: SEZAZ2P0566811
   Coding: 040004710200000000000001
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00137
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 4189F003D089C38C4D-8014

   Data carrier: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
   Component: EUR_W_V12  0078 

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3111  
   Serial number: CEBM0145
   Coding: 0003
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 4683E31FF9A7E4B478-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 N    HW: 7P6 035 730 N
   Component: TELEFON       H16 4217  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666889683
   Coding: 0210000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3D718CF3AC71A76C29-8068

No fault code found.

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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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Retrofitting is a financial mistake :mrgreen:
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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a hobby can cost some money, that's fine.
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Post by til3tsio »

I agree with both of you. 8)
But if you have patience and keep an eye for the right prices on used parts then it isn't a big deal, unless you don't know when to stop.
Don't forget that old parts can always be sold to get something back.
And If you are capable you can do everything by yourself.
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

Post by til3tsio »

Today I was studding and comparing diagrams of my car with and without bcm max and auto lights.
I checked all the changes that need to be done for the RLS, auto dimming mirror, reverse light, licence plate lights, rear fog light, drl and cluster.
These are not hard in my opinion, the hard part is to replace the light switch with the automatic.
if I am not mistaken to do it like in the factory some wires to the left stalk must be changed too. And in general, many wires must be changed / relocated / removed.

Many members here made the bcm upgrade with a kit that another member sold in the past,
so I am wondering if there is a way (not so oem) to make the retrofit. I am looking for a conversion wiring diagram if that thing exists.
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

Post by til3tsio »

Sourced a 7H0937090D from a Seat Ibiza for a good price.
Installed it today to check if it was working. I just did the 2 can wires and nothing more.
Transferred gateway installation list, coding and BCM coding from old one.
Everything works in my car except cornering lights. Do I need to transfer adaptations map too?

When I have some time I will continue with the wiring installation to complete the retrofit.
Attaching a new autoscan

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Sunday,07,March,2021,16:46:00:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZNHZFx   License Plate: 
Mileage: 69870km-43415mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: NH-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 56 77

VIN: VSSZZZNHZFx   Mileage: 69870km-43415miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LD    HW: 03L 906 023 Q
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H33 9972  
   Revision: --H33---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114016002400080000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LD 003010
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LL.rod
   VCID: 73E56ACBDAB5211C0F-8026

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 1000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 F    HW: 1S0 614 517 F
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H16 0022  
   Serial number: A00OXLH
   Coding: 53CC487889AE00F8CAFE12F591AE00402F0D00
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW 002004
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW_002_SK25.rod
   VCID: 326BAFCF652F6814C4-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6JA 907 044 A    HW: 6JA 907 044 A
   Component: Climatronic   H05 0106  
   Revision: A1001000    Serial number:  1409091A-0329
   VCID: 3A7B87EFB55F90540C-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H78 0725  
   Revision: B9078001    Serial number: 0671 023150625
   Coding: 7A980B0000D32400920808306C0B14C00E80400F608E0000020000004000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2F6DA6BB7E1D45FCAB-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5J0 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor H0  H03 1211 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 5J0 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor H0  H03 1211 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6JA 919 719 D    HW: 6JA 919 719 D
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H04 0130 
   Serial number: 000000000A0834130814
   Coding: 001000

2 Faults Found:
01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 69879 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.07.29
                    Time: 06:40:55

00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 69879 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.07.29
                    Time: 06:40:55


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 919 475 B    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32931715705623
   Coding: 308005
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000 001009
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000.rod
   VCID: 397998E3B8599B4C05-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 34D 959 655 B    HW: 34D 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW20    005 0366  
   Serial number: 003K7R051XKU
   Coding: 88CCC00000000000540000CA000000000065
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253 001110
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253.rod
   VCID: 3467A9D79F3B6624D6-8060

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 710 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  003 0148 
   Serial number: 349001A011523162BF1W
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 410 811 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  003 0148 
   Serial number: 350001A01202FAA32D1Z
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 710 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  003 0148 
   Serial number: 351001A011523C62FE94
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 410 811 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  003 0148 
   Serial number: 352001A01202FE726C73
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6JA 920 840 E    HW: 6JA 920 840 E
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0711  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110E01
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_SK25.rod
   VCID: 3D718CF3AC71A76C29-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H78 0725  
   Revision: B9078001    
   Coding: 322200
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 70EF65C7A3A31A04F2-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0711  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6ADB77AF8D7FE0D4BC-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666859729    
   Coding: 030100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   VCID: 2B55B2AB4A0539DC87-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 6JA 035 192 L    HW: 6JA 035 192 L
   Component: RNS315-EU   H85 0501  
   Serial number: SEZAZ2P0566811
   Coding: 040004710200000000000001
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00137
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 4189F003D089C38C4D-8014

   Data carrier: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
   Component: EUR_W_V12  0078 

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3111  
   Serial number: CEBM0145
   Coding: 0003
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 4683E31FF9A7E4B478-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 N    HW: 7P6 035 730 N
   Component: TELEFON       H16 4217  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666889683
   Coding: 0210000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3D718CF3AC71A76C29-8068

No fault code found.

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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

Post by til3tsio »

Unfortunately I didn't have the time to complete the BCM conversion yet.

But had some time last week and installed 8k PDC.
5Q0 unit flashed to 1K8 919 472 C with the golf 6 dataset that vcp has. I get the expected error for a missing message but everything works. I think that I need to find a more suitable dataset though.
I didn't get the PDC menu on the dashboard.


Also installed TPMS antenna , 5Q0 unit flashed to 3AA 907 273 F and 3AA sensors. After uploading a dataset with vcp the TPMS menu appeared on the instruments with the car figure showing dashes.
I drove almost 5 kilometers but still getting dashes on tyre pressure menu.

Any advices ?
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

Post by iichel »

Regarding TPMS, it might be worthwhile to see if the sensors are still OK
Regarding PDC, perhaps there is a Jetta or Beetle dataset for the USA versions, the Jetta low has a PQ25 platform as well. Just like Beetle 5C.
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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Just checked measuring data this is the picture I get.
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I will check whats available for PDC datasets on vcp, do you think that's why I don't get the PDC menu ?
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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I don't know. I have never seen the PDC menu on PQ25 but I'm not that familiar with the Seat family either.
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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I have seen it in this post

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by patil
patil wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:58 pm New Mod: MQB PLA 2.0 8K Auto active park pilot :mrgreen:


I bought new module 5Q0 919 294L with 3 to 2 conversion adapter harness for plug and play installation. The new module was flashed with firmware 1K8 919 472C along with necessary parameter using VCP. :wink:
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Coded the module for Polo6R using VCDS, and the result:
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Activated Park pilot in IC, with new menu:
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Rear traffic alert(RTA) now works with additional beep along with colored warning display of moving object on reverse. With previous PQ 7E0 8K module, there was only display without warning beep.
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I really like the way new module works. Parking sensors are autoactivated with OPS display overlaying+ dash button glowing, if obstacle is/are detected upto 20km/hr of vehicle speed.

If obstacles are detected in both front and back, there is no cacophony from both front and back speakers, only obstacle nearest to sensors will buzz, distracting the driver less. :lol:

Music play also automutes if front sensors are in red zone, really liked this feature. The dash button is now essentially only for beauty :mrgreen:

In picture below, obstacle at both front and back. only front sensors buzzing, rear sensors grey out silently:
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8) :wink:
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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TPMS worked !
Just had to reupload the dataset and everything just worked!
Now I just have to deflate the tires :D
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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til3tsio wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:56 pm
But had some time last week and installed 8k PDC.
5Q0 unit flashed to 1K8 919 472 C with the golf 6 dataset that vcp has. I get the expected error for a missing message but everything works. I think that I need to find a more suitable dataset though.
I didn't get the PDC menu on the dashboard.
I guess PDC menu on cluster is related to SW version cluster is running. On 6R Polo maxidot cluster with SW version 805, the PDC menu appeared automatically after installing 1k8 module. Not related to dataset of PDC module I think.

You should check the SW version of your cluster, may need to edit necessary byte in eeprom dump to activate PDC menu in your cluster.

Congratulations on successful installation of TPMS.👍
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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Thanks a lot !
My SW version is 711 , I will try editing the eeprom in the next days.

After a long time, today I dedicated some more time to my car. I ran the wiring of the TPMS antenna in the back and in the same time I installed the wiring for BSA radars.
Connected the radars temporary just to see if everything is working without connecting the indicators.
I updated them, filled the parameters, coded them but NO !
The assistants menu did not appear on instruments , also seems that my instruments don't have the LEDs soldered.

Some new errors on my autoscan , but of course I'm not sure neither for the parameters nor the coding.

Just for future reference I am adding the autoscan

Code: Select all

Monday,17,January,2022,19:10:52:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZNHZx   License Plate: 
Mileage: 76460km-47510mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: NH-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2E 37 3C 44 56 65 77 0B

VIN: VSSZZZNHZx   Mileage: 76460km-47510miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LD    HW: 03L 906 023 Q
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H33 9972  
   Revision: --H33---    Serial number:                CVN: EAEEC454
   Coding: 00114036002400080000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LD 003010
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LL.rod
   VCID: 73E56ACBDAB521114C-8026
   VINID: 9A38EAAAA798A9604004710014A6C34A86

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. User\1S0-614-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 L    HW: 1S0 614 517 F
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H16 0023  
   Serial number: A00OXLH
   Coding: 53CC487889AE00F8CAFE12F591AE00402FBC00
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW 002004
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW_002_SK25.rod
   VCID: 387F9DE783538249B9-806C

1 Fault Found:
0319 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 76465 km
                    Date: 2022.01.17
                    Time: 23:04:37

                    DTC: 00 01 3F


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6JA 907 044 A    HW: 6JA 907 044 A
   Component: Climatronic   H05 0106  
   Revision: A1001000    Serial number:  1409091A-0329
   VCID: 3A7B87EFB55F90594F-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H78 0726  
   Revision: B9078001    Serial number: 0671 023150625
   Coding: 7A980B0000D32400920808306C0B14C00E80400F608E0000020000004000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2F6DA6BB7E1D45F1E8-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5J0 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor H0  H03 1211 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 5J0 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor H0  H03 1211 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6JA 919 719 D    HW: 6JA 919 719 D
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H04 0130 
   Serial number: 000000000A0834130814
   Coding: 001000

2 Faults Found:
01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 76465 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.09
                    Time: 23:04:37

00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 76465 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.09
                    Time: 23:04:37


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 919 472 C    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0480  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39391501419364
   Coding: 0011197001
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00045
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001007
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00_VW32.rod
   VCID: 377D9EDB8E4D8D31B0-8062

1 Fault Found:
12718592 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 76465 km
                    Date: 2022.01.17
                    Time: 23:04:36


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 34D 959 655 B    HW: 34D 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW20    005 0366  
   Serial number: 003K7R051XKU
   Coding: 88CCC00000000000540000CA000000000065
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253 001110
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253.rod
   VCID: 3467A9D79F3B662995-8060

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 710 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  003 0148 
   Serial number: 349001A011523162BF1W
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 410 811 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  003 0148 
   Serial number: 350001A01202FAA32D1Z
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 710 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  003 0148 
   Serial number: 351001A011523C62FE94
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 410 811 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  003 0148 
   Serial number: 352001A01202FE726C73
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6JA 920 840 E    HW: 6JA 920 840 E
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0711  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110E01
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00113
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_SK25.rod
   VCID: 3D718CF3AC71A7616A-8068

1 Fault Found:
12658432 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 244
                    Mileage: 76465 km
                    Date: 2022.01.17
                    Time: 23:05:01


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H78 0726  
   Revision: B9078001    
   Coding: 322204
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 70EF65C7A3A31A09B1-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0711  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADB77AF8D7FE0D9FF-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666859729    
   Coding: 030100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   VCID: 2B55B2AB4A0539D1C4-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 6JA 035 192 L    HW: 6JA 035 192 L
   Component: RNS315-EU   H85 0501  
   Serial number: SEZAZ2P0566811
   Coding: 040004710200000000000001
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00137
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 4189F003D089C3810E-8014

   Data carrier: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
   Component: EUR_W_V12  0078 

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:. 5Q0-907-686.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 C    HW: 5Q0 907 686 B
   Component: HRE_Master    H12 0081  
   Serial number: 0423661625
   Coding: 04031101
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3D718CF3AC71A7616A-8068

No ASAM data for: "EV_HREntryHella" (SK25) 
2 Faults Found:
733440 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
          - 00 [009]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 76467 km
                    Date: 2022.01.17
                    Time: 23:17:08

733696 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
          - 00 [009]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 76467 km
                    Date: 2022.01.17
                    Time: 23:17:08


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3111  
   Serial number: CEBM0145
   Coding: 0003
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 4683E31FF9A7E4B93B-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011  
   Serial number: 30000000238236
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
   VCID: 377D9EDB8E4D8D31B0-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 N    HW: 7P6 035 730 N
   Component: TELEFON       H16 4217  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666889683
   Coding: 0210000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3D718CF3AC71A7616A-8068

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:49)--------------------------
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Re: Seat Toledo 1.6 TDI - PQ25 BCM Max Upgrade

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you probably need to enable assistant menu in cluster EEPROM
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