The GTi is back with more power and 7sp dsg
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:26 pm
Looks like the gti is back on the vw configurator with more power (207ps) and 7sp dsg ...I’m pretty sure the price has been bumped up to lol .
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Better economy in auto I assume.
Yeah that is surprising. Wondering if that means even longer before the facelift hits the UK.Stuart_Rendall wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:07 pmBetter economy in auto I assume.
And I am surprised that they've added it back already before the facelift. I thought if they were to add it then it will have been much later in the year.
I managed to get my GTI+ with about £1500 worth of options for £22000 before deposit back in March 2020 using Carwow but £26,000+ seems expensive even compared to recent VW proce hikes. Think if I was to buy again I would prefer a used GTI TCR or a Megane RS.SRGTD wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:23 pm Just run the spec of my car through the configurator and the list price now for my car is £2,125 more than it was in Feb last year when I ordered mine. I know some of that increase can be attributed to the 7 speed DSG, but over £2k price increase in 14 months sounds a lot.
There’ll no doubt be a further price hike when the order books open for the facelift model.
If it's geared like my A4, the 7th gear hardly comes into play unless you aim to sit at 80 on the motorway.Stuart_Rendall wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:07 pmBetter economy in auto I assume.
And I am surprised that they've added it back already before the facelift. I thought if they were to add it then it will have been much later in the year.
VW do like their regular inflation busting price hikes. My incoming ID3 is £1050 more expensive (RRP) as of 1st April than it was on March 27th when I ordered. Dodged a bullet there!Stuart_Rendall wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:48 pmI managed to get my GTI+ with about £1500 worth of options for £22000 before deposit back in March 2020 using Carwow but £26,000+ seems expensive even compared to recent VW proce hikes. Think if I was to buy again I would prefer a used GTI TCR or a Megane RS.SRGTD wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:23 pm Just run the spec of my car through the configurator and the list price now for my car is £2,125 more than it was in Feb last year when I ordered mine. I know some of that increase can be attributed to the 7 speed DSG, but over £2k price increase in 14 months sounds a lot.
There’ll no doubt be a further price hike when the order books open for the facelift model.
I used to drive the old polo gti which has a 7 speed dsg gear box and I found that much more responsive, faster shifting and it’s kick down was flawless.monkeyhanger wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:13 pmIf it's geared like my A4, the 7th gear hardly comes into play unless you aim to sit at 80 on the motorway.Stuart_Rendall wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:07 pmBetter economy in auto I assume.
And I am surprised that they've added it back already before the facelift. I thought if they were to add it then it will have been much later in the year.
The 7 speed was much less responsive than the GTIs 6 speed, hopefully it was set that way for comfort rather than being genuinely sluggish.
I'd be amazed if they use the dry clutch variant of the 7 speed box rather than the wet box on the Golf GTI, for reasons of longevity. They chose the 6 speed wet box over the 7 speed dry box for a reason previously, and they've given the car 7ps more, but torque is unchanged. If they use that dry box, the Polo GTI will have no extra capacity for remapping unless they've completely re-engineered it.Stuart_Rendall wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:06 pm I hear rumours that the new 7 speed will most likely be the old DQ200 gearbox which appears to be less capable in terms of torque tuneability. I've also seen people say that the DQ381 probably won't be used due to size of the gearbox and packaging issues in the Polo.
Your memory serves you well, I had a 2012 Fabia VRS with that same 7spd DSG (I believe) and I felt it was a nicer drive than this 6spd DSG.Jackgti wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:48 pmI used to drive the old polo gti which has a 7 speed dsg gear box and I found that much more responsive, faster shifting and it’s kick down was flawless.monkeyhanger wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:13 pmIf it's geared like my A4, the 7th gear hardly comes into play unless you aim to sit at 80 on the motorway.Stuart_Rendall wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:07 pm
Better economy in auto I assume.
And I am surprised that they've added it back already before the facelift. I thought if they were to add it then it will have been much later in the year.
The 7 speed was much less responsive than the GTIs 6 speed, hopefully it was set that way for comfort rather than being genuinely sluggish.
Maybe my memory isn’t as good lol, would’ve loved a 7 speed!
I'm not entirely sure why they've advertised the extra few PS as 207PS works out at around 152KW or 204bhp which is what all of our GTI's will do on a dyno. It appears they have gone for an honest number instead of their underestimate they provided before of 200PS.monkeyhanger wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:33 amI'd be amazed if they use the dry clutch variant of the 7 speed box rather than the wet box on the Golf GTI, for reasons of longevity. They chose the 6 speed wet box over the 7 speed dry box for a reason previously, and they've given the car 7ps more, but torque is unchanged. If they use that dry box, the Polo GTI will have no extra capacity for remapping unless they've completely re-engineered it.Stuart_Rendall wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:06 pm I hear rumours that the new 7 speed will most likely be the old DQ200 gearbox which appears to be less capable in terms of torque tuneability. I've also seen people say that the DQ381 probably won't be used due to size of the gearbox and packaging issues in the Polo.
That'll just prompt me to remove mine if I p/x it at a dealer against another Polo or put on ebay if I don't!lancslad1985 wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:25 am The spare wheel is also a £100 option now instead of standard.