VW Polo 1.6TDI starter relay problems

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VW Polo 1.6TDI starter relay problems

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Hello,

Have issue with my VW Polo 1.6TDI 2011 year.
Was randomly driving, when suddenly get christmas tree in the instrument cluster for many errors. After stoping and trying reset engine, it wasn't starting, so starter wasnt working, but when i pushed car, it will start but doesnt work power steering.
Below attached scan for whole car. I alreeady checked all relays, fuses and wiring near car batterry and below it, but problem still remains. Maybe somone had this issue ? Can it be BCM module or something else ?
Monday,16,August,2021,20:27:28:00009
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY241146 License Plate:
Mileage: 195540km-121502mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6R0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 56 61

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY241146 Mileage: 195540km-121502miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYB) Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 023 ME HW: 03L 907 425 B
Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H33 9970
Revision: --H33--- Serial number:
Coding: 00114016002401080000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023ME 003011
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023PL_SK25.rod
VCID: 75E154D3D4C13F2E28-8020

3 Faults Found:
7332 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
P0103 00 [165] - Signal too High
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 195543 km
Date: 2021.08.16
Time: 00:24:06

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 23 °C
Intake air temperature: 23 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.972 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine speed: 0 /min
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Battery voltage: 12.0 V
EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation-ANG_SP_EGRV[0]: 0.000 %
Throttle_actuator_commanded_value-ANG_SP_THR[0]: 96.001 %
Air mass: specified value-MAF_SP_MMV: 239.95 mg/stroke
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke)-MAF_MES: 0 mg/stroke

10454 - Output for Starter Relay
P0616 00 [165] - Short to Ground
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 195543 km
Date: 2021.08.16
Time: 00:24:06

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 23 °C
Intake air temperature: 23 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.972 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine speed: 0 /min
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Battery voltage: 12.0 V
Status of starter activation-FRF_ST_RL: 1
Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value-Coolant temperature: 23 °C
Number of resets of main unit-CTR_RST_MC: 0

10458 - Control Circuit for Starter Relay 2
P3048 00 [165] - Short to Ground
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 195543 km
Date: 2021.08.16
Time: 00:24:06

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 23 °C
Intake air temperature: 23 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.972 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine speed: 0 /min
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Battery voltage: 12.0 V
Status of starter activation-FRF_ST_RL: 1
Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value-Coolant temperature: 23 °C
Number of resets of main unit-CTR_RST_MC: 0

Readiness: 1110 1000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AK HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Revision: --------
Coding: 210228E3417100B3842614E682D700521300
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 071D2E1BB22D3DBE4A-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 E HW: 6R0 907 044 E
Component: Climatronic H09 0609
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 356194D39C417F2EE8-8060

1 Fault Found:
00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519)
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 188
Mileage: 195543 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.07
Time: 00:24:60


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 088 D HW: 6R0 937 088
Component: BCM PQ25 Re4 H46 0322
Revision: BU046001 Serial number: 0379 049111064
Coding: 3CB029BF48A10000212009B07CAB0ED0DF8061FF7E860041200000000000
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 3F8DF6FBAE7DB57E32-806A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 170211 05 54 0403
Coding: 03302D

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB HW: 6R0 959 801 AB Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 007 1621
Serial number: KU0-KU004.02.1113297
Coding: 48BC30

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD HW: 6R0 959 802 AD Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 007 1621
Serial number: KU0-KU003.02.1111440
Coding: 48BC30

1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 188
Mileage: 195543 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.07
Time: 00:25:22


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag01K H09 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX00FK0GH
Coding: 00314B
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 4A9BD72FEDBF00D695-801E

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575HRB40570C15I7PJ6

Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3585HRB40690C15IDH9+

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB405P09U26191%

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB405R09U26H94L

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6R0 920 861 F HW: 6R0 920 861 F
Component: KOMBI H04 0304
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140A00
Shop #: WSC 54321 666 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
VCID: 387F9DE783538246F3-806C

2 Faults Found:
9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor
B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 188
Mileage: 195543 km
Date: 2021.08.16
Time: 00:25:59

13638912 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 188
Mileage: 195543 km
Date: 2021.08.16
Time: 00:25:59


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6R0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 530 C HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H38 0025
Revision: H38 Serial number: 110211F1002394
Coding: 2500C0
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3365AACB9235611EC6-8066

2 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 228
Mileage: 195543 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.07
Time: 00:00:12

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 187
Mileage: 195489 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.07
Time: 09:00:57


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0304
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6ADB77AF8D7FE0D6B5-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 D HW: 5N0 035 342 D
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0150
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7669387837
Coding: 020000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 285F4DA75BF312C663-807C

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 228
Mileage: 195543 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.07
Time: 00:06:20


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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840) Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 534 HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Batt.regelung H38 0025
Serial number: 110211F1002394
Coding: 030B1A5A
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 74E769D7D7BB26261F-8020

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 915 181 B HW: 6R0 915 181
Component: J367-BDM H07 0150
Serial number: 00000000009370526392

No fault code found.

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Re: VW Polo 1.6TDI starter relay problems

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Check fuse 26 below dashboard please
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Re: VW Polo 1.6TDI starter relay problems

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iichel wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:02 pm Check fuse 26 below dashboard please
Wow, checked, changed it, all started to work, but after first start up it already blowed. Why ? There is 7.5A fuse, maybe there is supposed to be bigger ?
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No, 7,5A is fine. There is a short circuit somewhere. Disconnect air mass meter, oil temperature sensor and power steering pump and try again.
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Re: VW Polo 1.6TDI starter relay problems

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Disconnected MAF, no changes, disconnected oil level sensor and now doesn’t blow. So needs to replace oil level sensor ? Wires seems fine near oil level sensor
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Would be my suggestion yes
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