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Hi I was wondering if someone could please help me identify the correct oil type I need.

2018 Polo with the 1.0 L TSI engine.

I am confused if it can take 508 00 (which VW state reduces fuel consumption and CO2 emissions) or 504 00 or 502 00.

The VW Polo service manual states that it should be able to take 508 00 but when I look in the owner's manual included with the car, it states:

"Flexible service: VW 508 00 or alternatively VW 504 00"

"Fixed service: VW 502 00"

I am in a country that uses EN 228 standards.

Any ideas?

Thank you.

I would think that EA211 engine was designed when 504 was the standard for fixed or extended/variable servicing, my wife has a 2015 1.2TSI EA211 engine and I always use Mobil One 5W-30 oil when I service it. I'd think that the 508 standard oils are okay for your engine, but for me I'd rather spend a few more pence in fuel in the belief that 5W-30 engine oil used for fixed service over a period of roughly 6,000miles/12 months was keeping engine wear down.

Edit:- I think that the engine oil that we or at least I am waiting to appear is the version that reduces low speed high load detonation, as that is thought to be an issue with many small turbo charged petrol engines.

Edit:- my mistake, I meant 5W-30 engine oil!!

I edited my previous posting to change "10W-30" to "5W-30" - my mistake and posting this in addition to doing that so that anyone following this thread is aware.

Changed oil+filter today, thought the filter was a bit tight while removing it, after removal I found that the barrel nipple had unscrewed quite a lot, I just screwed it back in before installing the new filter so just a word of caution, ensure to check that this nipple is screwed fully home before installing new filter. This used to also occur on a Bora I had but only started after about 10 years.

Oh, not so good, do you think that slight damage on the oil filter thread caused this to happen?

Out of curiosity, did you fully remove that threaded nipple to see if the "inner" thread is tapered or if there were any traces of Loctite on that end?

RUM4MO wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:04 pm Oh, not so good, do you think that slight damage on the oil filter thread caused this to happen?

Out of curiosity, did you fully remove that threaded nipple to see if the "inner" thread is tapered or if there were any traces of Loctite on that end?

No, I didn't remove it, but it screwed back in very easily so doubtful if any locktite (which one might expect), the outer end (filter) threads certainly had no damage as the filter shut spun on.
VW used to use a blue coloured " locktite" on various studs and believe me it really worked as it resisted to the very last thread while being removed.

Print out before SRI reset below shows oil quality poor, bit strange, less than a year since last change and ~ 5000kms, dealer serviced so presume correct oil used. How is the oil quality checked??.

Edit: Found this on some site or other:
The way VAG named that channel is quite misleading.
"Poor oil quality" actually means "Fixed Service Intervals"
"Good oil quality" actually means "Flexible Service Intervals"

Description Current val. New val.
IDE00342-ESI: Resetting ESI ESI: Service Reminder Status Warning active ---
IDE00510-ESI: distance driven from inspection ESI: Distance since Inspection 5390 km ---
IDE00511-ESI: time from inspection ESI: Time since Inspection 358 d ---
IDE00515-ESI: oil quality ESI: Oil Quality poor oil quality ---
IDE00517-ESI: soot entry ESI: Soot Quantity 0 km ---
IDE00518-ESI: thermal load ESI: Thermal Load 8100 km ---
IDE01153-SIA: maximum value of distance to service SIA: Maximum Distance to Service 15000 km ---
IDE01154-SIA: maximum value of time to service SIA: Maximum Time to Service 365 d ---
IDE03349-FIX:Max. distance driven until next mileage-related inspection FIX: Maximum Distance to Inspection 30000 km ---
IDE03350-FIX: Maximum time until next time-dependent inspection FIX: Maximum Time to Inspection 365 d ---
IDE03351-FIX: Distance covered since last mileage-dependent inspection FIX: Distance since Inspection 5300 km ---
IDE03352-FIX: Time since last time-dependent inspection FIX: Time since Inspection 358 d ---
*************************************************************************************************************************************

Johntheo1 wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:23 pm

RUM4MO wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:04 pm Oh, not so good, do you think that slight damage on the oil filter thread caused this to happen?

Out of curiosity, did you fully remove that threaded nipple to see if the "inner" thread is tapered or if there were any traces of Loctite on that end?

No, I didn't remove it, but it screwed back in very easily so doubtful if any locktite (which one might expect), the outer end (filter) threads certainly had no damage as the filter shut spun on.
VW used to use a blue coloured " locktite" on various studs and believe me it really worked as it resisted to the very last thread while being removed.

Loctites or similar will just be bought in by VW Group and tend to come in 3 strengths, RED which is low strength for items that are frequently separated, BLUE which is medium strength for items that can end up being separated, and GREEN that is high strength for items that are never planned to be separated, all these come in a few different forms from "runny" through to "paste" and include a version that suppliers use that gets applied and then forms a skin so that the screw/bolt can then be fitted without using any more Loctite. There are some specialist versions as well which tend to be YELLOW and that tends to get used as a bearing bonder plus other uses, I'd suspect that if VW Group used a Loctite on that threaded nipple it would be the YELLOW version - or as I suggested maybe that threaded nipple has a tapered thread at one end.

The bolts on the rear disc brake callipers have BLUE Loctite on the bolts and they come off okay, if a lot of excess Loctite has been applied, the bolts can grip a bit all the way out due to some Loctite curing at the area where the bolts pass through clearance holes in the calliper body, but I can put up with that!
I seem to have changed to only using a Loctite paste that comes on a stick

Just what seems to be a correction to my posting on Loctite version colours, relative strength!

According to Loctite’s current owners website, RED Locitite is a higher strength than GREEN, the lower strength Loctite is PURPLE.

Now, we used to use purple screw locking gunge many years ago but I always thought it was just a general purpose low strength compound more for a visual thing for inspection than a proper screw lock compound, but that was from “way back” before Loctite became owned by its current trading group.

So, it looks like I’ll need to check my stock of Loctites and pay a bit more attention to which to use where,

Sorry for that incorrect information, though most of us will only ever end up using BLUE Loctite I’d think.

Edit:- I think that my confusing RED for PURPLE was just down to me considering that the "reddish" coloured Loctite that I have is RED, I was wrong it is in fact PURPLE as far as Loctite identification goes, so far I have never ever bought and used RED Loctite threadlocker.