REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Due to release next week, thoughts?

https://www.onlyrevo.com/product-detail ... mance-pack
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Once my warranty has run out I may consider this….. a few years away sadly.
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Only my personal opinion... but without a decent LSD, I would not want to add a significant amount of extra power to this car myself. Others may well disagree :)
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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@MikeDo I don't disagree after my experience of fast starts in my Polo. I appreciate that tyres can make a tremendous different but my Polo wheelspins with these Primacy 3 tyres very easily. (maybe 6.5 years of 4WD has made me forget) but the wheels are spinning for a bit every time I attempt a quick getaway.

So much as I would like more power, I think I will wait for a change in a few years of car.

280bhp that is going to be quite a handful.
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Hi All,

Just thought I'd add some feedback after having the Revo performance pack fitted by MG Auto Motorsport in Ripley...

This is my 2020 GTi+ company car

I initially had the Revo stage 1, 95 ron with Gearbox software and DTUK pedal box to increase throttle response, which made a huge difference and I was really pleased overall. I just wanted a bit of extra power which the car now has.

It's now Stage 2, 98 ron and I had lowering springs fitted too, just so the car looks a bit nicer.

Pics and dyno graph below... The car had a bit of a hissy fit on the rolling road so at the top end it appeared to lose power. I took it straight back to MG who ran some logs on the car and everything was absolutely perfect and the power loss was not replicated on the road, only an issue on the dyno.

I'm extremely pleased with the car, how it drives, sounds and pulls in every gear :D 1st gear is totally pointless but if completely dry with warm tyres, I can get perfect traction in second gear and it almost snaps my neck!

I'd highly recommend the upgrade to anyone wanting a bit more grunt... It made a healthy 281bhp and over 400ftlb and I'm still getting well over 50mpg on my motorway cruises.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/cWcnJfBxbPiCutwE9
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Nice to hear the feedback as mine is due to be done at the Revo Performance Centre next week.

How do you rate MG in Ripley, were you given any sort of discount on all the bits? I’m on the look out for a more local specialist.

Shame the DYNO went a bit weird. Don’t think I get any sort of DYNO time but 280 as per the testing REVO has done seems legit.

Do you have an instagram or any little vids etc? Do you have a non-stock exhaust?

Never heard of the throttle box thats a new one.
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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MG were very good, both with the stage 1, Stage 2, and also when I returned the car to them to verify the tune/logs after the dyno session. They were very forthcoming with all information and costs and talked me through the whole process and were keen for my feedback too. I'd definitely use them again. In fact there are 2 Revo dealers in my city (Hull) but after my initial experience of them, I chose to drive 2 hours to MG because their customer service was so good.

There was no discount unfortunately... I think for the stage 1 and gearbox software it was about £900, and then with the stage 2 pack supply & fit, lowering springs and wheel alignment, another £2800. I've just had to do the alignment again after a few weeks and it needed further adjustments now the springs have settled.

I dont have any social media but when the weather gets better I'll definitely make some videos and if anyone is around the east yorkshire area I'll happily take them out for a drive. Exhaust is completely standard too. I drive between 1000 and 1600 miles per week for work so this is probably as much as I want to spend on mods now.

Just to put it into perspective, I had an M2 up my back side on the bypass near me yesterday, from 40mph he floored it to overtake as soon as I saw him pull out I floored it too. I slowly gapped him until my passenger respectfully requested I slowed down :lol: The M2 driver definitely wasnt pleased as I'd pulled maybe 3-4 car lengths on him!

Most importantly, I'm still getting 47-52mpg while out and about every day which roughly equates to 400-440 miles per tank (I drive like an old man 99.99% of the time).

Here's the link to the pedal box... If I could only ever have one mod on my car, this would be it. The initial dead spot on the pedal travel is completely removed and I have the most aggressive setting which makes the car feel ridiculously responsive, not ideal for everyone but theres loads of settings:-

https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/tu ... 84-ccm/#go
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Thanks for all the detail. Will keep MG in mind for the future.

The Revo Performance Centre is doing all the work for me at the end of this week.

Couple of questions before hand though.

Am i right in thinking one of the features is that is reverses the functionality of the stop/start button (so defaults to off on start up now)

Also, did you notice any change in exhaust tone / personality? Increased over run maybe for a cheeky pop or too? Guess this will be gpf/non-gpf dependant.

Cheers again.

I have pre-recorded my ‘before’ vids of exhaust and engine bay in prep, sad i know.
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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You should be very pleased with the outcome when its all fitted... Keep us updated :D

You're right, the stop/start defaults to being disabled. I guess if you're hammering the car, the last thing you want is it cutting the engine at the lights while the oil is red hot.

There was absolutely no change with the exhaust tone/noise and no pops or additional sounds, however with the turbo muffler removed and the open intake, above about 20% throttle the car sounds absolutely amazing... lots of whooshing and fluttering and its not discreet. Under normal driving conditions though it just runs completely normal and very compliant :)
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Okay so I have my car back after having the whole stage 2 performance pack done at the revo performance centre itself.

Intake
Intercooler
Uprated hosing
Turbo muffler and inlet upgrades
Ecu and dsg software

Car was also serviced and MOT’d with a clean bill of health, the only comment was they almost failed it for not being clean since they couldn’t find anything else!

Got the car back and tickled it back to the motorway then put my foot down. It’s certainly got more pull, was not as overwhelmed as people suggested I would be but yes certainly quicker. Not really had any issue with losing traction.

Anyway, got onto the motorway and as I have had turbo cars before i know you can give it some in 6th gear and hear all the intake and turbo spool noise… this is where it got unusual…

So 6th gear in manual mode (kick down is disabled now) about 2.5k revs and 65-70mph. Apply throttle to hear the intake and rather than the smooth suction then the blow off noise but it was more of a, what I’m calling, a Hannibal/helicopter type noise (I have a sound clip).

Just did not seem right although maybe it could be? Anyone else with a map and intake care to comment? If its third gear and in power band it makes the smooth suck noise as expected and takes off.

I understand 6th at 2k revs its out of power band and asking a lot of load but straight away i thought it was odd. Sort of like it was hesitating, but i guess most cars would. The thing that took the biscuit for me though was the EML started flashing at me whilst doing the same thing a few times in my confusion as to whether what was occuring was right or not.

So gave all the info to the revo people at RPC and they sent someone to my house as I was working from home to check pipes, reattach the two coolant bolts they forgot to put back on that has been left in my scuttle panel rolling around and VCDS the codes.

Came back with misfire cylinder 2 and 3, i was like… well it was fine when i handed it over and it’s supposedly just logged perfect after passing a service road test, mot and health check.
So the spark plugs were moved around to deduct if it was a spark plug or a coil pack…went back out with vcds running and the issue move to cylinder 1 and 4.

I was told they would take my car back to their base (1 hour from me) get the spark plugs changed and they would sort it all out as wanted me to be happy. Which i was totally fine with sounds all good, i paid alot of money it has to be right for the sake of both parties.

So sparks changed, got told it was out on the road test with their project car and both did the same thing log wise - they even copied my scenario and found no problems.

So happy days finally i can have it back and get going. This is where it turned a bit sour, i’m not going to go on and on as people are probably only interested in how the hardware and software perform (and this is already a text wall) but here we go.

Now others may have different point of view, but revo performamve centre tried to charge me for the spark plugs which I simply told them there is no chance because as far as i am concerned the issue only came about after they touched my car. So i was then told i will not get my keys back until i paid or they will remove the new spark plugs and put the old ones back in and send me away.

Obviously this led to a drawn out scenario that nobody needed until finally i got past the initial customer facing staff member and the main boss stepped in who explain his side, i explained mine and eventually i walked away with keys and not charged for those spark plugs.

Ultimatley this ruined the entire experience for me as up until then everything (hardware, software, customer service + solving an issue) was 10/10.

So to finish, how is the car now? Well it still makes what i think is a weird noise when alot of throttle is applied at low revs in high gears, not what i expect from a turbo but I am coming from a mk3 ibiza cupra and a 9n3 polo gti (plus any noises of other turbo cars i have heard before).

It certainly has more grunt, not as extreme as i was led to believe or expected. I ran through the scenarios that brought on the EML and it has not come on again, but the characteristics are the same.

All the hardware looks fine.

Overall, i guess more time will tell but for me it’s turned into a bit of ‘meh’.
I’d really like to know how other mapped aw gti’s with maps react/sound if given the same scenario that brought up the EML for me.

TL;DR not sure it’s worth it, when pottering you can barely tell any things done. Put your foot down and it’s certainly noticable. On the fence for now car wise and customer service hiccups mean its unlikely I will go back to the same outlet.

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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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GavWhittaker wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:39 am You should be very pleased with the outcome when its all fitted... Keep us updated :D

You're right, the stop/start defaults to being disabled. I guess if you're hammering the car, the last thing you want is it cutting the engine at the lights while the oil is red hot.

There was absolutely no change with the exhaust tone/noise and no pops or additional sounds, however with the turbo muffler removed and the open intake, above about 20% throttle the car sounds absolutely amazing... lots of whooshing and fluttering and its not discreet. Under normal driving conditions though it just runs completely normal and very compliant :)


Can you confirm if your temp gauge is now always stuck on 90 degrees on performance monitor? Which i think is four bars on the digi dials.

Thanks.
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Hey, sorry to hear you had an experience like that... Something definitely sounds not quite right.

Glad the Revo Performance centre got straight on to looking into your issues... Thats very strange that your logs are reading perfectly and its still not driving as you expected. I can imagine you feel a bit deflated as I've had bad experiences with previously tuned cars.

I'd just had a service before having the performance pack fitted and fitted some bosch plugs. MG had to change these out back to NGK and had to re-gap them to 0.7mm for the car to be running perfectly (I think out of the box they are something like 0.75 or 0.8mm). This they all did in the 2 days they originally had the car so I never experienced any misfire issues etc.

I can confirm that when I floor the throttle at any gear/rpm, I get a smooth intake suction noise and the boost comes in very aggressively and feels exactly as it should. I'd compare the power characteristics to be similar to my old R35 GTR and GT30 Mazda MPS (Obviously not the same power level though, just exactly as it should be with lots of boost).

Have you got a link to your sound clip if poss?

Where are you based? I'd be very happy to meet up in the spring and we can compare the 2 cars on the road.

I've done 10,000 miles since the performance pack was fitted. Car serviced yesterday and am still blown away with the power and also driveability as sometimes im on the road 8+ hrs a day.

Just had 4 new Bridgestones fitted today and cant believe how crap my old ones were...It can much better deal with the power in the wet which it couldnt at all previously.
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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I've never used the screens in the performance monitor so I'll check and let you know about this too :-)
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Also, it wont let me reply to / send messages (maybe as I dont have enough posts for this feature) If you want to discuss anything at all, my email is gavin.whittaker at ymail.com :-)
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Re: REVO Stage 2 Performance Pack

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Thanks for replying.

I have sent an email with the soundclip attached.

Interesting you mention spark plug gapping as REVO said there was no need and replaced with OEM plugs.

Hopefully that email cones through and we can discuss in more detail there!
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