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Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 10:15 pm
by wide23
Hello,
I want to install automatic light swith in my Polo 6r with stock xenon lights, stock rain sensor and "D" in VIN number. I read about ciclo's harness but they are no longer aviable. Where can I get it now? Any another manufacturer? Or where can I find details about part numbers of connectors, pins/socket type, and diagram to make it myself?
Best regards
.wide
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 10:19 pm
by iichel
I've made a few in the past, if you're handy you can make them yourself as well.
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 10:31 pm
by wide23
iichel wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 10:19 pm
I've made a few in the past, if you're handy you can make them yourself as well.
Yup, could you support in details like part number list?
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 9:56 am
by peter_dk25
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 1:13 pm
by wide23
Is it for stock light switch?
How about harness for switch with "auto position" (I prefer to use)?
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 1:42 pm
by peter_dk25
Ask the shop....
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 2:08 pm
by iichel
10 pin connector contra 191972735
10 pin connector F 191972725
2 pin connector M 1J0972752
2 pin connector F 1J0972762
10 pin connector light switch 8E0971980
double relay holder 4H0937529 (MY2013+) OR 8E0937527
These are the parts I use. The original version is with a 10-pin ISO connector instead of the 191...
I got to say that's pretty cheap at x2car.de, I usually sell at about double that price, albeit with a light switch and installation.
This is what mine look like with the part numbers as mentioned above
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 5:33 am
by wide23
Perfect, thanks!
So as I understand there is no exist female side for OE 1J0 972 999 to make this harness more plug&play, right?
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 6:15 am
by iichel
That is correct yes
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 11:13 am
by wide23
Thanks, parts ordered!
Can I ask about section lengths as well? (it can be helpful for someone in future):
A ?
B ?
C ?
D ?
I check what I need for BCM and I prepared some tabele. Is it correct?
According
4H0 951 253 C relays holder I'm little confused:
JPT sockets OE: N 906 844 05 (1mm2 cross section, rep. cable OE: 000 979 133 E / (no exist size socket for 0,5mm2 but exist 0,5mm2 rep. cable OE: 000 979 021 E)) -
for pins 1,2?
MCP 4.8 OE: 018 545 49 26 (rep. cable: 1mm2 OE: 000 979 152 E or 2,5mm2 OE: 000 979 243 E)
for pins 3,5 ?
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 3:37 am
by ciclo
I made them with the next approx lengths to facilitate the installation, and accommodate the wires in a harmonious way so it won't be a nightmare every time you remove any of the BCM connectors.
A=20mm
B=60mm
C=10mm
D=135mm from the original connector T10/2 to terminal 37a. The length of the wire for terminal 1a will then be defined.
F Fog signal = 85mm
With these lengths you have plenty to make the rectifications you need when crimping the terminals.
Relay holder 4H0937527 (in your case, 'D' MY).
https://www.a4-freunde.com/showwiki.php ... uebersicht
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... N3bT1BRvUA
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 11:07 am
by wide23
ciclo wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 3:37 am
A=20mm
B=60mm
C=10mm
D=135mm from the original connector T10/2 to terminal 37a. The length of the wire for terminal 1a will then be defined.
F Fog signal = 85mm
Centimeter’s, I’m pretty sure?
Thanks a lot.
Yup, my conclusions comes from your data from another topic. Now I have relay holder in my hands so I think I was right.
What is release tool for MPC4.8 socket?
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 12:57 pm
by ciclo
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 2:13 pm
by wide23
Ah, so this same type. OK.
Are you sure about wire cross size for relay pin no1?
I have relay holder with a piece of stock wiring loom. Pins 1, 3, 5 has this same diameter. Bigger than you suggest for pin no1 on scheme - 0.5mm2
Regards
Re: Again - auto headlight retrofit. Where to get harness?
Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 5:42 pm
by ciclo
Through pin 1a the BCM sends the signal for low beam operation (Auto or normal), that is, it is a signal with which a wire section of 0.35 mm2 would be more than enough.
There are multiple reasons to determine the section of the wires in a relay holder...