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Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:23 pm
by CoflaVW
Good afternoon
First of all I introduce myself properly I am coflaVW and I am a fan of Volksvagen
I am from Chile and as a hobby I entertain myself updating my VW which is a PQ25 platform from 2011

I apologize if I'm posting in the wrong place.
I am using the google translator since I understand English but I don't write it.

Here in Chile it is difficult to retrofit the people's response is you can't or you're crazy, it looks bad, blablabla
They make me want to do things more and show that everything is possible when there is desire, affection and information and most importantly support
When there are people like you who have the desire and love for their cars and share their wisdom and help each other
in this great forum.

I was already able to make some improvements always doing them in an OEM way.
Install original steering wheel with your OEM steering wheel controls
I changed the instrument panel for the most complete one [Remaining a few small details that with the new updates should be 100%]
Install hood open sensor
Install Windshield Washer Water Level Sensor.

Before going to the point I would like to kindly ask for your help and support and knowledge in a new update that has been done several times in your forum
so I could read days and days of reading.
many pages of the same in which I always see Mr. Ciclo and also iichel who give a lot of support and collaboration
in your forum

I need to get in touch with Ciclo or iiche or someone who would like to help me with the retrofit of the lighting system of my VW
I am putting together the necessary pieces little by little and getting them all together to be able to make the updates.
My VW has this BCM 6R7937087H from the factory and I already have the 7H0937090D in my hands, which is the most complete BCM, not installed yet.

- My VW does not have OEM installed the RLS {rain light sensor} is the first thing I should install because of the comments I have read
- Then install the new BCM 7H0937090D, with the 2 CanBus signal cables to the instrument panel.
- Then the Update of the lighting cables to connect to the BCM [my original lighting does not connect through the BCM
I need loom wiring, BCM automatic lights } I couldn't find who sells it {Ciclo only sold it for a while} that would make this update a bit easier
- From fabric I have installed the dimmer switch

Someone from the forum who can help me sell looms wiring, Automatic lights BCM for my version of VW or can help me how to make it myself or
the part numbers of the new relay holders or the different types of dupont connectors that are used for the connections and that I have to alter in my original installation

I thank those who took the time to read this request for help....
I hope to have some contact from you
I couldn't find Ciclo's o iiche private email no matter how much I searched

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:07 pm
by iichel
I guess the first and most important question is, how capable are you with doing retrofits?
Are you able to read wiring diagrams and distillate all needed info?
Are you able to make your own wirings?
Do you have a system like VCDS to make changes to the codings and adaptations of your car?

Or do you need very detailed instructions on what to do and are you not able to work (semi-) independently?

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:19 am
by CoflaVW
iichel wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:07 pm I guess the first and most important question is, how capable are you with doing retrofits?
Answer.- I am quite capable of making modifications, I have the patience and the desire, I have always achieved them with effort and perseverance.

Are you able to read wiring diagrams and distillate all needed info?
Answer.- It is hard for me to read Flowcharts but I can manage

Are you able to make your own wirings?
Answer.- If I have the pinouts and the guides well detailed, I can do the detail of why I want to echo the wiring looms, Automatic lights BCM that you had at the
The sale is because the connectors and the relays and relay holders come practically ready {the same as the originals} I do not have a part number for the spare parts of the relay holders
or the models of the dupon connectors and plugs of the wiring looms to do the retrofit.

I have the interior light dimmer and front fog lights installed from the factory

Do you have a system like VCDS to make changes to the codings and adaptations of your car?
Answer.- Yes. alternative version 23.3

Or do you need very detailed instructions on what to do and are you not able to work (semi-) independently?
Answer.- Generally I do things independently when I am beyond me and I have searched a lot and I ask for help.
In the same way, having well-detailed instructions eliminates the margin of error (I think)

The problem is going to be another one, my vehicle is an Amarok VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZCA026354

The Volksvagen polo and the Amarok share many things and there is the wonderful thing my request for help is because my Volkswagen is an Amarok and there is the biggest problem
I have studied a lot of polo things and the VW Trasporter are almost twin brothers with the Amarok in various electronic things

My problem is that it is an amarok. Retrofit there is very little information except to do what I want to do with this retrofit
I already installed some electric seats from an Amarok V6 ErgoConford and I still have to buy the connection branch for the heated seats and
Seat heater module that is the same as the Polo, they sell it on Aliexpress

I couldn't find the power branch for the electric seats. Meanwhile I have punctured the original cables so as not to cut the original plug
and to be able to move the seats and their regulations

I changed the instrument panel, mine was 2H0 920 853 B, I changed it for this 2H0 920 871 A, I had some details that I think can be fixed with VCDS
I have to install an oil level and quality sensor while deactivating the warning so that it would stop coming out, when I turn on the fog lights I don't have any witness on
the instrument panel or synoptic, I do not have an oil pressure witness or warning and the conford sensor for panel lighting works opposite { when the light hits it, the lighting of the instrument panel increases
And when it's dark, it only lights up the clock hands.... I think that will be solved by retrofitting the lighting and connecting the Canbus signals
to the instrument cluster when you install the new BCM}

I have saved the New BCM, not the one and installed 7H0937090D
I have saved the 5ND 941431 B XSH Switch AND THE PIGTAIL CONNECTOR
(They gave me the mirror and RLS sensor of an Amarok 2020, I don't know if it will be compatible with my Amarok 2011 to 2016 since in the VW Amarok 2020 it has another instrument panel)
I have a mirror and sensor (RLS) from a newer Amarok sensor part 5K7955559C - Volkswagen Rear View Mirror 3G0-857-511-AM or can I install it the same and it will work 100%?
o I have to buy the one that corresponds, which would be this:
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32865781 ... d-973a-408 9-9ef1-d6cdbc0516b5-2&pdp_npi=3 %40dis%21CLP%21166678.0%21166678.0%21%21%21%21%21%40211bf49716871469888878155d07c1%2110000001490144092%21sea%21CL%210&curPageLogUid=0 PWaKxxgh2Y8

I can send photos of what I have done so far and what I have gathered to complete the project or whatever information you need, I am at your service.


I am alone in this adventure because as I told you here in Chile, everyone says it cannot be done and I see that it is possible in other Volksvagens because in this one it is not.
When there are people who want to help or guide you, it can be achieved with effort to reach the goal

For anything like it's an amarok and not a pole, I'll understand if it goes against the principles of the forum to help me
Thank you very much IICHEL for taking an interest in my request for help anyway for anything.
I hope you agree to help me or enlighten me on this path.
Thank you IICHEL

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:59 am
by iichel
Hello CoflaVW and it's no problem to answer your question.

There are a few problems that you must find a way to get over.
- Like you say, it's an Amarok, not a Polo. Still PQ25, very similar, but not the same.
- You are very far away from us
- ciclo is not selling the wirings anymore for BCM Max retrofit, but he is still the expert on this
- I don't know how to make them
- You will attempt to do two retrofits at the same time - BCM Max and automatic lights.

Some solutions:
First:
For the BCM Max retrofit it's probably best if you obtain the wiring diagrams. You will find them here.
From here it's very important to determine two things:
- What is my car currently equipped with? This will require your effort in making pictures and compare them to the wiring diagram.
This is for all wires from the light switch and dimmer to their endpoints and all external lights and their endpoints.
That's a lot of work. It must apply for every single wire and it must be exact:
All wires from light switch
Front: DRL, low beam, high beam, front fog lights
Rear: license plate lights, reverse light, rear fog light

The indicators, parking lights and brake lights are controlled by BCM anyway. You can leave them out your study. It will save complexity and time.

Here are some schemes:
2009-2015 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... drive_link
2016+ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BUp_Ih ... drive_link

The next step is to determine how to convert to BCM 7H0 with all lights controlled by BCM, perhaps with the exception of high beams?
So you must get into the wiring diagrams again and determine how this would be in a car with i.e. PR-7L6, start/stop system.
This configuration controls lights via BCM.
BCM 7E0 can also control high beams via BCM, i.e. for high beam assist.

I think you will be able to do a lot of wiring in the area between light switch, fuse box and BCM.
But some will perhaps require you to run wires to reverse light, rear fog light, front DRL, front fog lights, high beams?

The next step is to activate the new configuration in your new BCM. The BCM must be coded to comply with the configuration and desires you have.
The expert on this is also ciclo. If he can help you out with coding, that would be very good.

In the meantime, you must determine if you want to first make the conversion from BCM 087 to BCM 090 and finish that, or to include the automatic lights.
The advantage of combining is, it's more efficient. The disadvantage is, it's more complex.

I hope you understand the systematic approach you must take.
I am sure it is possible in your VW Amarok, the only thing that needs to be able is you, and I hope this post is a good preparation on what to do.

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:37 pm
by CoflaVW
iichel wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:59 am Hello CoflaVW and it's no problem to answer your question.

There are a few problems that you must find a way to get over.
- Like you say, it's an Amarok, not a Polo. Still PQ25, very similar, but not the same.
- You are very far away from us
- ciclo is not selling the wirings anymore for BCM Max retrofit, but he is still the expert on this
- I don't know how to make them
- You will attempt to do two retrofits at the same time - BCM Max and automatic lights.

Some solutions:
First:
For the BCM Max retrofit it's probably best if you obtain the wiring diagrams. You will find them here.
From here it's very important to determine two things:
- What is my car currently equipped with? This will require your effort in making pictures and compare them to the wiring diagram.
This is for all wires from the light switch and dimmer to their endpoints and all external lights and their endpoints.
That's a lot of work. It must apply for every single wire and it must be exact:
All wires from light switch
Front: DRL, low beam, high beam, front fog lights
Rear: license plate lights, reverse light, rear fog light

The indicators, parking lights and brake lights are controlled by BCM anyway. You can leave them out your study. It will save complexity and time.

Here are some schemes:
2009-2015 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... drive_link
2016+ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BUp_Ih ... drive_link

The next step is to determine how to convert to BCM 7H0 with all lights controlled by BCM, perhaps with the exception of high beams?
So you must get into the wiring diagrams again and determine how this would be in a car with i.e. PR-7L6, start/stop system.
This configuration controls lights via BCM.
BCM 7E0 can also control high beams via BCM, i.e. for high beam assist.

I think you will be able to do a lot of wiring in the area between light switch, fuse box and BCM.
But some will perhaps require you to run wires to reverse light, rear fog light, front DRL, front fog lights, high beams?

The next step is to activate the new configuration in your new BCM. The BCM must be coded to comply with the configuration and desires you have.
The expert on this is also ciclo. If he can help you out with coding, that would be very good.

In the meantime, you must determine if you want to first make the conversion from BCM 087 to BCM 090 and finish that, or to include the automatic lights.
The advantage of combining is, it's more efficient. The disadvantage is, it's more complex.

I hope you understand the systematic approach you must take.
I am sure it is possible in your VW Amarok, the only thing that needs to be able is you, and I hope this post is a good preparation on what to do.



Good night Iiche

I hope you are very well and I thank you for the information of the flow diagram and the time you are giving me to help me

Yes ... you are right in all your comments regarding this whole process requires a lot of time and study of the electrical scheme of the lights so I have
to order me first in the way of working as you say well.

I usually like to do things step by step when you can and I think in this case I would convey to start like this.
First update the BCM with the steps indicated below and connect the 2 Canbus signals from the BCM to instrument chart. (1)
Then buy the mirror and anti dazzling with rain and light sensor and just install the esjo with its dazzling anti function (2nd)
and to end make the installation of the light of the light sensor with the update of the branch of lights (3rd)

While together with material and study all the information that can get the subject and clearly see if I can get the Loom Wires Automatic Lights BCM that I am sure
That can help me save some time as it is.

My work form will be the following
I am going to explain how I believe for what is studied that the change of the BCM is made (pre -preparations for the BCM update)
Eye first the Pin out of the BCM 90D to make the comparison
1 ° Make a complete scanner with the VCDs with the original BCM 087 to have the longcode
2 ° Take photos of bits by bits of the settings that BCM 087 has
3 ° Do a SCAner with VCDs in the selection (Application - MAP channel control - Controller Adress 09 - Select Adaptations (I highlight that selection) and that.
4 ° Then I install the BCM 090 and disconnect from the BCM branch the 2 Cambus signal cables that go to the Pin 28 and 29 instrument box
(Because these cables are disconnected when connecting the new BCM?)

and disconnect from the BCM of the white connector (b) the pin 54 and 57. Detail disconnect it at both ends I do not eliminate it to see what happens (because you have to disconnect
That change signal ????? Or do I have to do the Cambus cable from the BCM to the instrument box to connect it?
4th Install BCM 090 and I made a complete scanner with the VCDs with the original BCM 090 to have the longcode
5 ° Take photos of bits by bits of the settings that BCM 090 has
6 ° Do a Scaner with VCDs in the selection (Application - Channel MAP control - Controller Adress 09 - Select Adaptations (I highlight that selection) and that
7 ° Then I enter Module 09 and I begin to take out the modules that I do not have and select the ones I have installed
8 ° Then I go bit by bit reviving the settings to have the same as I had before the change or I can also paste the long -bcm longcode in the new
9 ° Configure the 2 key remote control or keys to work with the new BCM (there are tutorials how to do it and have seen them but I never have it)



If a guide as this one is per cycle (clearly that is compatible Amarok 2011 4x4 mechanical transmission) could follow the step by step and do the branches I ...
Where I would have problems is to make the branch of the relays that sold cycle with the connectors and adapters of the dimmer and the lights.


7H0937089D BCM MAX IN 2010 POLO 6R H7 NON BLUEMOTION. Installation Guide. (Update the same BCM that I want to put)
This person on the forum did the same thing I want to do in the same form of work
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=68980#p514815

https://drive.google.com/file/d/d2nv91y ... n3bt1brvua

When I already install the new BCM and all this in functioning with the MímSMas Configurations that the old one will prepare for the second stage


I'm going to buy the RLS kit (Rain Light Sensor) Retropit
(It has to be the rain sensor kit and rearview mirror light for vw tiguan jetta mk5 golf 6 mk6)


Some of these retrofit must fall with mine since the VW transport is the sister of the Amarok
RLS RETROFIT VW TRANSPORTER T4
https://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/threads/rls ... t.1796615/



RLS installation guide {Rain Light Sensor}
DIY RETROFIT OF RAIN LIGHT SENSOR FOR AUTO WIPERS AND HEADLIGHTS ON VW
https://www.myturbodiesel.com/d2/1000q/ ... pit-vw.htm

https://www.rns-systems.eu/en/installat ... and-sights {{Guide Installation of Mirror Rearvisor RLS]


Auto Headlight Retropit. VW Transport. T5 (2010-2015)
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70736


and I connected only the mirror function
While I continue to gather and study to update the light cables so that they can light automatic
And everything is perfect with the BCM 90D.

I think it would be the correct way to carry this job ... what do you think?
As last do the update of automatic lights and controlled by BCM 90D
(While the BCM 90D is already connected with the same functions as the old one but updated to Max) that you think


I discovered that it is a mirror kit and sensor that they gave me it does not work for me (since the sensor is of rain and no moisture of light)
Mirror and Sensor (RLS) from a Newer Amarok Sensor Part 5k795559c-Volkswagen Rear View Mirror 3G0-857-511-AM does not work for me


I do not know how to communicate with a cycle you may want or can help me in addition to Spain and I think it would be easier for whatever you want to tell me or explain in Spanish
or to be able to speak with the via watsap or video called since we speak the same language
Or maybe cycle can tell me example this is the guide that is pole but it is equal to that of the Amarok of yours or something like that and with that it is a large advance !!!
Your iichel you have how to communicate with the email or some way ...
I don't know how to communicate with him in the forum



Excuse me what I developed in answering iichel
And I thank you again for your help and any comments would thank you very much to continue moving forward in the project

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:06 pm
by iichel
I see you already found the topics with the BCM max conversions, very good.
Read them well, try to understand why each step is taken and see if you think you're capable of doing the same.
Your steps are a good base, yes, if you make a scan, also make a list adaptations of the BCM. VCDS can do this as well.

The RLS retrofit is probably the easiest, you can do that already with your current BCM. It only needs three cables for the electrical part.
The correct sensor is either 5K7 (round bracket) or 1K8 (square bracket) and the 5K7 comes with and without humidity sensor.

I think the best way is to do it as you feel it's right.
You can make it one big retrofit and do it all at once. So RLS, BCM and automatic lights.
Or you can first do the RLS, finish that, then do the BCM and when that is done, do the automatic lights. It's okay either way.
The RLS can be done first or second, the automatic lights must be done after the BCM.

Personally I don't like to share my email address since I don't want to feel like somebody is dependent on me, and it lowers expectations as well.
If you're really stuck and you're desperately waiting for an email from me... that's not good since I have no intention of answering all my mails on short notice.

Regarding ciclo's email address, I will not share it without his explicit permission.
He is currently not very active on the forums for very good reasons and as soon as he deems it's okay to return, I'm sure he will.
He has been a valuable pillar of this community for a very long time.

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:13 am
by CoflaVW
Thank you very much iichel for answering I hope you are super well
Yes, I am a person who seeks a lot of information and studies a lot before doing things and I try to always have a backup for any error, that's why
It was the issue of making all the backups with VCDS and also making the backups of the adaptations before making any modifications.

effectively my work order is going to be
1° update the BCM
2nd The RLS
3° Update the wiring of the automatic lights so that they can be controlled by the BCM

Dear iichel, don't get me wrong, I thought there was a way to write to Ciclo from the same forum, I know you can't and shouldn't share an email if
the person does not share it .... and I'm sorry if my previous comment was misunderstood, I'm sorry :cry:

Yes, I have realized in the more than 100 pages that I have read and translated in the forum that Ciclo is a very valuable pillar and is very participatory and very collaborative and has
much knowledge just like you.
and I really congratulate you.
I hope Cycle is well.

I will be informing you in the forum in this same topic of how I am doing with the first Stage: Update of the BCM

And as I told you, I take things easy and study a lot, but the issue of electrical flow charts uffffff is something I'm not very good at.
but you have to learn and look for information everything can be done I think calmly and with time as you know iichel if in one of those I am lucky and someone from the forum
It tells me this is the same scheme that you have to follow, it would be wonderful :D


I'll tell you how it goes .... thank you very much iichel have an excellent night

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:47 am
by iichel
Don't worry, I am by no means offended or treated badly.

I think it would be great if you do the retrofit, I'll try to help whenever I can with small things and whenever you have an issue.
And it's good that you think about all the things before you do it. Thank you for sharing and if you take many pictures and write it all down, the next Amarok owner will be very happy.

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:44 am
by ciclo
- https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

- viewtopic.php?p=530329#p530329

- viewtopic.php?p=528319#p528319

- http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... eplacement

- viewtopic.php?p=466570#p466570


For help with any problem:

- Autoscan and clear images of the installed parts about which you are asking. On the PQ25 platform, the images are essential, for example, there are different fuse boxes depending on the year or place of production, etc...
- Only ask one question per post. Wait for a response (it is likely that the response will not be immediate). Then you can ask the next question.
I do not guarantee that I can answer all the questions, there are current circumstances that do not allow me to do so.

Any other means of communication other than the forum is not possible, my help is totally altruistic, so it must be shared with all forum users (and the rest of the world).
You can only contact me by private message in the language you prefer, but you must first post your question on the forum.

I just want to be warm and friendly, but sometimes it seems like I'm not. The time we spend on this has to be fun and enlightening.

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:32 pm
by CoflaVW
Dear Ciclo and iichel
First of all, I would like to greet you and hope you are all well.
Please forgive me for disappearing for a while and having had many problems, which is why I was unable to continue my project, which I would like to take up again.

I am writing to apologize first and if there is still a chance that you can help me with your knowledge and guidance to be able to update my Amarok Higline
Chassis WV1ZZZ2HZCA026354 manufactured in Argentina 2011.
I have the original BCM installed 087H and I have a BCM 90D that I bought from a 2016 Amarok (I installed BCM 90D to test it and it configures my keys which I already did and I left mine 087 H again)

I also have the 5nd 941 431 b xsh switch and the connector from the same Amarok that I bought the BCM 90D

I have the wiring to install RLS that I bought from Aliexpress to be able to install the mirror and sensor.

I also have the Amarok xenon LED headlights that I completed and repaired little by little as they did not have the ballasts or the bulb and were missing some fixings. I have already repaired and completed everything

I have already read and studied each page of the forum and each case of the Amaroks displayed here that managed to make the updates with the help of Ciclo and iiches and I only found 1, a member of the forum Dkakavas who had a chassis number like mine 2HZCA

but as Ciclo says, the electrical installations of the Amaroks vary according to the years and I have not been able to find the exact electrical installation that fits my case

I also have the complete interior harness with the carrying box with the relays and the fuse box of the Amarok that I bought from the BCM 90D
which has the following chassis WVZZZ2HZFA047969 (Amarok 2016)
I thought at the time of taking out my harness and installing that one but I would have to move my 4wd module and the corresponding wiring.

I have already realized that I have to take power from the fuse 30 that is on the battery in order to start doing the updates as Dkakavas said and I send him the link to x step of a transporter T5 (viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70736&start=45#p528735)

Why when updating to the BCM 90D do you have to disconnect and isolate the original CanBus lines to the instrument panel and connect new CanBus lines to the BCM 90D instrument panel?

Could you guide me to be able to do the update and have everything OEM. Bixenon automatic lights etc.
I know that with you it is done and it is done well as it should be. I do not like things adapted poorly done and with poor quality things and I know that you are the only ones I have found that can help me to make everything perfect. Please

What I have gathered
- BCM 90D
- Switch 5nd 941 431 b xsh
- Optical 2H1 941 016 AF
- Optical 2H1 941 015 AF
- Cable for the mirror and RLS sensor

- I have 1 Complete cab interior branch and its lighting system and everything that goes to the engine etc. and as I mentioned from an Automatic Amarok 4motion
- I have another branch only the interior part of the cab of a mechanical Amarok 4x4

Can you help me?

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:02 pm
by iichel
changing a full wiring loom is probably a dash-out job. i'm not sure that would be the favourable way to go, but if you do it, you could use the opportunity to make some sound isolation and other retrofits at the same time.

if you're handy with wiring, i'd recommend you make your own.

the basics of every bcm max conversion is like this:
- make the correct inputs of terminal 30 to the bcm
- make the correct inputs from the light switch to the bcm
- make the correct outputs from the bcm to each of the external lights

sometimes you'll have to do some other wirings
- T73/4 to the instrument dimmer
- 2 new canbus wires to the instrument clusters, if you take a 7e0 bcm

unless you are ciclo, you probably dont get all the wires right the first time. you'll notice a light isnt on and you'll investigate.
i've done a few bcm max wirings for customers in my workshop, that usually went like that.
i never did it remotely and also not on a chassis i'm not familiar with, i never did an amarok. so i'm not very comfortable with making a wiring for you

i'm not able to judge your skill but if you are able to read a wiring diagram, add 1 and 1 together and you can make your wiring, you'll be able to do a lot.
and of course you'll need to have a diagnostic tool like vcds.

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:09 pm
by CoflaVW
Dear friends, I am attaching the images of the fuse holders and relay holders so that you can know the connection pins or which Amarok guide of all those on the forum is the right one for me.

Friday,11,October,2024,13:05:30:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
VCDS Version: 23.3.0.0
Data version: 20230228 DS346.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: License Plate: 11-10-2024 - DESPUES DE BORRADO DTS - PARA FORO
Mileage: 228090km-141728mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 2H-VN81 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 22 25 56

VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZCA026354 Mileage: 228090km-141728miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CDCA) Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 019 EK HW: 03L 907 309 K
Component: R4 2,0L EDC H43 1239
Revision: 26H43--- Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: 741BECBE
Coding: 01190012232600080000
Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019EK 002005
ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019EK_002.rod
VCID: 78F5B522C3D34253FB-802C
VINID: 9E606AAAA098A934400860C510CB1D74AF

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 X

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 2H0 907 379 H HW: 2H0 907 379 B
Component: ASR MK25 E 0107
Revision: 00H23001
Coding: 0000065
Shop #: WSC 07456 790 50316
VCID: 356B7C165C417F3B20-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 7E5-907-040.clb
Part No SW: 2H0 907 040 D HW: 2H0 907 040 D
Component: ClimatronicT5 H11 0304
Revision: 00001002
Coding: 0000000002
Shop #: WSC 07456 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01003
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoT5Basis.rod
VCID: 2241B74A35CFF883F5-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R7 937 087 H HW: 6R7 937 087 H
Component: PQ25 BCM H12 0022
Revision: -1------ Serial number: 1002480801
Coding: 3D0002380C010000003808003C0A04C50080410E600000003000
Shop #: WSC 00137 211 56823
VCID: 499300E6E0B90BDB54-801C

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 M HW: 6R0 959 801 M Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3321
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 P HW: 6R0 959 802 P Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3321
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 2H0 959 442 HW: 2H0 959 442 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-MD9 H02 0103
Serial number: 39200000915050020301
Coding: A4FFFF

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 D HW: 6R0 959 811 D
Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 3321
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 900000

Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 D HW: 6R0 959 812 D
Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 3321
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 900000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 2H0 959 655 B HW: 2H0 959 655 B
Component: VW10Airbag008 H06 0013
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003HN0052FE- Dataset Number: 2H0003v____ 0153
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003038
Shop #: WSC 07446 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
VCID: 336F420E9A35610B0E-8066

Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3555YRB40530IOK4BG8V

Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3565YRB404P0IOK4CH59

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 2H0 920 871 A HW: 2H0 920 871 A
Component: KOMBI H04 0805
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 151E00
Shop #: WSC 07456 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 2649AB5A59E704A399-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 6R7 937 087 H
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0022
Revision: -1------
Coding: 742200
Shop #: WSC 00137 211 56823
VCID: 70E58D02A3A31A1333-8024

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 22: AWD Labels: None
Part No SW: 2H0 927 755 B HW: 2H0 927 755 B
Component: SG offroad VTG 0153
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: T1IYC23212G6IG
Coding: 0000013
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 2F674E7EBE1D45EB6A-807A

1 Fault Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 75
Reset counter: 39
Mileage: 228094 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.03.04
Time: 12:56:07

Freeze Frame:
Battery Volts: 12.3 V
Current: 0.0 A
Voltage: 4.00 V
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0805
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6AD19F6A8D7FE0C37D-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:56)--------------------------

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:58 pm
by CoflaVW
Sorry, I missed some photos of the interior cycle I was asking for

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:58 am
by CoflaVW
iichel wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:02 pm changing a full wiring loom is probably a dash-out job. i'm not sure that would be the favourable way to go, but if you do it, you could use the opportunity to make some sound isolation and other retrofits at the same time.

if you're handy with wiring, i'd recommend you make your own.

the basics of every bcm max conversion is like this:
- make the correct inputs of terminal 30 to the bcm
- make the correct inputs from the light switch to the bcm
- make the correct outputs from the bcm to each of the external lights

sometimes you'll have to do some other wirings
- T73/4 to the instrument dimmer
- 2 new canbus wires to the instrument clusters, if you take a 7e0 bcm

unless you are ciclo, you probably dont get all the wires right the first time. you'll notice a light isnt on and you'll investigate.
i've done a few bcm max wirings for customers in my workshop, that usually went like that.
i never did it remotely and also not on a chassis i'm not familiar with, i never did an amarok. so i'm not very comfortable with making a wiring for you

i'm not able to judge your skill but if you are able to read a wiring diagram, add 1 and 1 together and you can make your wiring, you'll be able to do a lot.
and of course you'll need to have a diagnostic tool like vcds.

Thanks iichel for answering my questions.
Actually, changing the entire wiring harness
does not give me any guarantee since it is from an automatic Amarok 4motion and I would have to do the wiring to the 4wd gearbox module and to the buttons for activating the 4x4 low and 4x4 high or without traction {as the mechanical Amarok 4x4 has)

I have attached below photos of my fuse holder and my relay holder and of the interior of the truck as it requests cycle so that I can see if someone can guide me to the correct links of which of all the guides that are on the forum is the one that I have to do because there are many guides on how to do the wiring of the automatic lights and the connection to the xenon headlights with drl and RLS.

My Amarok Tre Factory Front fog lights
dimmer for instrument panel lights

The objective:
BCM 90D
OEM automatic headlights
OEM xenon headlights with DRL function
OEM 10-pin light switch
Install RLS and its photosensitive rearview mirror

We can use Cable or relay holder etc. From the branches that I have from the automatic Amarok with 4motion or what I have from the piece of branch from the mechanical Amarok, its fuse holders or fuse holder, etc.

We need to know which is the correct installation guide that I should follow as I told you because there are many to eliminate any margin of error

if this is the same connection guide that fits me
viewtopic.php?t=70902&start=30

And if I have to add the Volkswagen T5 guide to get the 30 Amp power supply to the interior to feed the fuse or relay to the BCM

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70736&start=45#p528735

I have attached photos of the VCD scanner and images of my fuse holder and relay holder

I attach an image of the BCM to be sure that I have the correct BCM unit.
I installed it just to configure the keys and it is OK and then I reinstalled my original one.

I can attach images of the branches that I have highlighting the fuse holders and relay holders

I want to do this update and I know that I can't do it alone.
There is too much information that helps a lot but at the same time it confuses me and for each case it is different which is the worst thing which is logical if each vehicle even if it is the same model has different equipment

One thing is to know which is the correct installation guide that I have to follow.
and then we will see the other part which is the coding that it has to have to be correct and surely I will have another problem perhaps....

I thank you iiche for taking the time to read my concerns and your intention to help me.

I hope that Cycle could also tell me something, since from what I have seen in the entire forum, it is the one that has made the correct ones for the Amarok
Thank you very much iiches
We will see what happens if I manage to gather the correct information to be able to do this OEM refit

Re: Loom wires Automatic lights BCM

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:28 pm
by CoflaVW
ciclo wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:44 am - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

- viewtopic.php?p=530329#p530329

- viewtopic.php?p=528319#p528319

- http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... eplacement

- viewtopic.php?p=466570#p466570


For help with any problem:

- Autoscan and clear images of the installed parts about which you are asking. On the PQ25 platform, the images are essential, for example, there are different fuse boxes depending on the year or place of production, etc...
- Only ask one question per post. Wait for a response (it is likely that the response will not be immediate). Then you can ask the next question.
I do not guarantee that I can answer all the questions, there are current circumstances that do not allow me to do so.

Any other means of communication other than the forum is not possible, my help is totally altruistic, so it must be shared with all forum users (and the rest of the world).
You can only contact me by private message in the language you prefer, but you must first post your question on the forum.

I just want to be warm and friendly, but sometimes it seems like I'm not. The time we spend on this has to be fun and enlightening.

Dear cycle
Sorry for my disappearance, this last time has not been easy and I had to stop my project :cry:

I hope you are doing well and I'm sorry but I don't know how to get your help again to be able to do my OEM retrofit

I have published in this same post the information that you requested at the time, I have studied so much the subject of the update that I want to do that I am already half dizzy. There are so many guides for different Amaroks for the versions that there are and in all the posts I have only found 1 with my same VIN 2HZCA and there is not the complete guide that the forum member followed

I would like to ask for your help to take up the subject again
and to know which is the correct diagram or post that I should follow to be able to do things right

I have published the update of what I have gathered and of the things that I have in this same post
also photos of the interior of my Amarok and also of the relay holder and fuse holder of my model

I also published a scanner with VCDS

Could you help me please I don't know how to contact you to take up this project. You are the only one who handles 200% in all these subjects I know that your time is very limited and I value every word and teaching that I have been given on this subject between iichel and you personally and obviously you learn much more and more things each time

thank you very much if you read this