Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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Hello everyone.
I have a problem with the left front lock on my Polo.
I start by saying that I bought 3 different ones and they give me the same defect...practically with the old original lock the car blocks regularly, while with the new one it doesn't want to block.
Here is a video to understand how it behaves.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NoyHhL ... sp=sharing

I also tried with VCDS and this is all the scan log:

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Tuesday,04,July,2023,15:15:44:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 23.3.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20230228 DS346.1
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY129884   License Plate: 
Mileage: 242010km-150378mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6R0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 61

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY129884   Mileage: 242010km-150378miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J000-CFWA)       Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
   Part No SW: 03P 906 021 B    HW: 03P 906 021 B
   Component: R3 1.2l TDI   H04 9978  
   Revision: 12004001    Serial number:                Dataset Number: 4F0909444AA D001 CVN: BD9C8E68
   Coding: 00114014032400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B 001041
   ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B.rod
   VCID: 275D4E9B5EED1DABA2-8072
   VINID: 9E69EAAAA1A2A92A4108920810A2DBE8E9

1 Fault Found:
16261 - Turbocharger Boost Control Position Sensor Circuit 
          P2563 00 [216] - Implausible Signal
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 241001 km
                    Date: 2023.06.18
                    Time: 18:33:07

                    Engine RPM: 957.75 /min
                    Normed load value: 99.2 %
                    Vehicle speed: 36 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 79 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 33 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.812 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 56
                    Accelerator pedal travel-Position: 69.4 %
                    Charge Pressure Actuator: activation-PWM rate: 100.0 %
                    Charge air pressure absolute position feedback-Position: 38.4 %
                    Turbocharger boost control: offset closed: 0 %
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 79 °C
                    High press turbocharger actuator: actual uncond volt value: 1.845 V

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AJ    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210224E3416F00BB842D24EA82D500521300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 0603231FB52724A3F9-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 J    HW: 6R0 820 045 J
   Component: Climatic       25 0660  
   Revision: 00 11 25    
   VCID: 356194D39C417F3B20-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 088 B    HW: 6R0 937 088 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Re4  H46 0321  
   Revision: BU046001    Serial number: 0328 277100749
   Coding: 3CB02BBF08A10000002007F07C6B9CD8FF8861FF7E8E0001200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 3D718CF3A471A77BE8-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 R    HW: 6R0 959 801 R  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 0903 
   Serial number: KU0-KU027.09.1012816
   Coding: 58BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 T    HW: 6R0 959 802 T  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 0902 
   Serial number: KU0-KU005.10.1016484
   Coding: 48BC30

8 Faults Found:
01758 - Bulbs for Brake Lamps 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 15
                    Reset counter: 62
                    Mileage: 238160 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.05.01
                    Time: 19:00:24

03428 - Activation of Left Adaptive Light 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100110
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 238162 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.05.01
                    Time: 22:17:36

03429 - Activation of Right Adaptive Light 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100110
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 238162 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.05.01
                    Time: 22:17:36

03301 - Response Closing Status of Drivers Door 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 239207 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.05.23
                    Time: 09:53:11

03224 - Play Protection Active 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 63
                    Mileage: 240895 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.06.16
                    Time: 14:23:00

00901 - Back-Up Lamps 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 174
                    Mileage: 238161 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.05.01
                    Time: 22:14:51

01502 - Bulb for Rear Fog; Left (L46) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 47
                    Mileage: 241306 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.06.22
                    Time: 22:21:39

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag00G H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX0098FDB Dataset Number: v00304886R0 0001
   Coding: 003047
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4A9BD72FEDBF00C35D-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572SRB40000CC0498BE

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Serial number: 3582SRB40000CC0D02FD

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Serial number: 3515RRB404T02CB8A1PD

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB406702CBC1GK%

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 861 FX    HW: 6R0 920 861 FX
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0304  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140800
   Shop #: WSC 23422 264 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW23.rod
   VCID: 102F0547CB637A1353-8044

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 6R0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 530 B    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H28 0020  
   Revision:   H28       Serial number: 240910F1002494
   Coding: 7D021C00080000000002
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 326BAFCFAD2F680305-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0304  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADB77AF8D7FE0C37D-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11220
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6DA6BBEA1D45EB6A-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Batt.regelung H28 0020  
   Serial number: 240910F1002494
   Coding: 03031A64
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 74E769D7D7BB2633D7-8020

   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0125 
   Serial number: 00000000002790060482

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:48)--------------------------
In module 09, the error is:

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03301 - Response Closing Status of Drivers Door 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 239207 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.05.23
                    Time: 09:53:11
                    
Anyone know how to help me? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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Hi,

That BCM is coded for 4 locks/doors, the autoscan only shows two doors.

Byte2 Bit1
- 0 = 2 doors
- 1 = 4 doors

So you should disable Bit1 in Byte2... , but I don't think this is the cause of the problem.

On the other hand, what is the part number of the new locks you are installing? There are several lock versions that can be installed depending on the equipment.
For:
- Central locking system (4F1).
- Central locking system without SAFELOCK (4I1).
- Central locking with radio remote control, interior release mechanism without SAFELOCK (4I2).
- Central locking system with SAFE function (4K3).
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Re: Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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Hi,
it seems strange to me that it is encoded for 2 ports instead of 4 ports because that is perhaps the only bit that I have not touched...
Anyway I try to change it but, like you said, I don't think that's the problem

The original part number of my front left door lock is: 5K1837015B

The new lock I tried to install are:
- NTY EZC-VW-108 (bought from autodoc that match the compatibility with my original part number)
- 6RD837015 (bought from aliexpress, the part number doesn't match mine but once fitted it performs the same as the video shown above)
- ABAKUS 132-053-061 (bought from autodoc, this is the last that I tried and showed in the video)
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Re: Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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I am going to tell you a story that I had some time ago based on what is called learning or damn experience.

I bought 4 locks at Autodoc for our Golf with the correct specifications - part number, PR codes -, but they did not work correctly - the SAFE function did not work, double locking -.

I returned them to Autodoc and bought the 4 second-hand Volkswagen Original locks with the same specifications on eBay - already used but practically new -, after installing them they worked perfectly - all the functions, SAFE function included-.

Despite my knowledge and diagnostic tools 😄, I was not able to find out why the new locks bought from Autodoc did not work properly and the 4 second-hand Volkswagen Original locks worked perfectly.
There is no specific procedure (with diagnostic tools) for the installation of locks in the VW workshop manual. Just the usual procedure.

Hmm... as the electric central locking is integrated in the door locks, it may be necessary to do a new synchronization with the key, that is, insert the ignition key/remote control into the lock cylinder, press the Unlock button on the ignition key, and Unlock vehicle with the ignition key via lock cylinder within a minute. It's a guess/flash that just popped into my mind right now... 😁 Honestly, it is an occurrence that does not make sense, although the same thing happens when installing the folding exterior mirrors on the 6R and after coding the WRMs, the window comfort function must be established again so that the WRM/BCM learns the new coding.


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I have looked at the two locks that you bought at Autodoc and they have a different PR code, although the web 'says' that they are compatible with your original lock. 🤷‍♂️
About Ali's one I have not the slightest idea.😊

According to ETKA online your original 015B has been replaced by 015D and this in turn by 015H.
That is, any of the original three should work correctly for you.
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Re: Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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Wow more than a story it seems like a real odyssey :(
Hmm... as the electric central locking is integrated in the door locks, it may be necessary to do a new synchronization with the key, that is, insert the ignition key/remote control into the lock cylinder, press the Unlock button on the ignition key, and Unlock vehicle with the ignition key via lock cylinder within a minute.
For this solution, I forgot to say that with the "new but not working like the original" piece it doesn't let me lock the car with the key but only the unlock works so unfortunately I can't use this advice.
According to ETKA online your original 015B has been replaced by 015D and this in turn by 015H.
That is, any of the original three should work correctly for you.
I honestly didn't think that this type of spare part could be different from the previous ones, so what do you advise me to do at this point?
Do I get a new lock with final code 015H?
Or do I get a used but original lock from ebay with the same code as my original?

Unfortunately I wanted to avoid taking it used because I can't know how it works correctly and how long it will last. In my case I want to replace it because it doesn't detect that the car has been opened and therefore if I leave the door open, the car closes after 30 seconds if I don't turn on the car.
OT: this is my odyssey instead :roll:
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Re: Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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if you want, you can enable/activate in the BCM the Byte4 Bit5 to disable the Re-locking function.

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Based on my experience/odyssey, I think it's best to buy the lock on eBay with the original ref number. Locks do not usually have a high failure rate, they can last 13 years, like yours, or 23 years...
How many years do you think you will own your 6R? 😄

You can also buy a new lock at your VW Dealer at a reasonable price. :mrgreen:
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Re: Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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Perfect, thanks for the replies :)
In fact my door lock last 13 year :shock: like the age of the car that was born in 2010 :wink:; while if memory serves me I bought the car 7/8 years ago.

Anyway, thanks for the advice and I hope to solve it with another lock (hoping it's the right one :lol: )

UPDATE:
after some reflections on whether to buy a new or used part, I opted for the new one with the final code 015H.
After I mounted it, it worked like the original without having the defect that the previous ones had.
Solved!!
Thanks for everything!! :D :D
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Re: Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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Congratulations! Thank you for the final report (update).👍
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ciclo wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:38 pm Congratulations! Thank you for the final report (update).👍
Ciclo, i can't contact you via PN because of the forum restrictions.
May you pleased contact me for this quote:
"At this moment, certain necromantic skills are necessary to get the sw/codes for the activation of the SWAP functions of the 2Q0 camera, and also it is not free, nor cheap. I paid a significant amount. 💶

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Dimensional Gates to get the codes/sw:
1- Scan the barcode from the mustache of the previous link.😁
2- If you were not successful with 1, send me your email by private message and I will tell you "in your email" who can provide them to you from the afterlife. )))"

Sorry für interrupting your thread and i m glad your door handle issued is solved.
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Re: Polo 6R Door Lock issue

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Hallo siaro, Guten Morgen.

You must contact the guy in the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5RE_vbVlco
henno

In the comments of the video you have his email:
Christian.henn80@gmail.com

You can contact him in German or English.

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I am super happy with how it works, now traveling is a real pleasure. I would say it reduces the fatigue of driving by 70%. 👌
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