1.8t Conversion. How hard can it be?

live2themaxuk · Post by **live2themaxuk** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:19 am

No really. . . .JBS i've heard want Â£4500 for it, but is it really THAT hard.

Engine
Engine Mounts
Quick Loom Re-wire
screw back together. . . . . .

Why do they want 4500!!!

cheers
Jamie

Redline · Post by **Redline** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:24 pm

Labour?
Parts?

Not exactly the kind of thing you do to kill some time on an afternoon is it?

Si_GTi · Post by **Si_GTi** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:04 pm

Perhaps if you source the engine and loom etc etc yourself JBS would be a bit cheaper - assuming that the Â£4500 iincludes sourcing a powerplant!

Why not give them a call to discuss?

Tigz · Post by **Tigz** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:25 pm

Engine is extra.

Its quite a big job, lets not forget all the other extras your missing, custom drive shafts for a start!

polo power · Post by **polo power** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:15 pm

where are jbs based then?

DubGTI · Post by **DubGTI** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:18 pm

I would of thought it would be a big headache doing this yourself, the company would know all of the problems to get around and would know the best way of doing everything.

Tigz · Post by **Tigz** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:28 pm

polo power wrote:where are jbs based then?

Chesterfield.

tom_mk5 · Post by **tom_mk5** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:36 pm

Quite hard in the Polo. I enquired myself when I had my mk5, basically the chassis in stock form isn't strong enough to fully support a 1.8t. This does not make it impossible but I believe it does need strengthening in order to carry the power. In addition is is quite a squeeze to get a 1.8t in there and it is a lot of work for the loom etc.

If you've got a GTI, I would suggest either supercharging/turbocharging it if it's more power you're after with a less labourious task...if you can call it that.

live2themaxuk · Post by **live2themaxuk** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:52 pm

tom_mk5 wrote:Quite hard in the Polo. I enquired myself when I had my mk5, basically the chassis in stock form isn't strong enough to fully support a 1.8t. This does not make it impossible but I believe it does need strengthening in order to carry the power. In addition is is quite a squeeze to get a 1.8t in there and it is a lot of work for the loom etc.

If you've got a GTI, I would suggest either supercharging/turbocharging it if it's more power you're after with a less labourious task...if you can call it that.

Well, i think i may just get another car soon anyway, as turbo charging the standard lump is i feel 'like polishing a turd'.

Starting out with a decent tuneable engine is always the best. Arr well, 1.6 just doesnt cut it for me anymore. . . .still fun though . . .

Alex_6n2 · Post by **Alex_6n2** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:13 pm

You need custom drive shafts too and the loom rewire really won't be "quick"

There is a lot of work that goes into making it all fit, and stay fitted, in the engine bay.

Someone did do a home one over a weekend for a 9n though, but he is a VAG mechanic

ModifiedMadness · Post by **ModifiedMadness** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:54 pm

Ceedubya?

His car is sweet

ceedubya · Post by **ceedubya** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:47 pm

Ceedubya?

His car is sweet

cheers

Someone did do a home one over a weekend for a 9n though,

that be me then

mine took a bit longer than a weekend to do the full job , but now i know whats needed i could probs do it in weekend if all the parts are to hand

he is a VAG mechanic

that bit aint me

i have looked into doing a mk4/5 and its the fitting into place that will rack up the labour costs
shafts and wiring aint that expensive

Post by **Josh_PoloGTi** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:29 am

The 9n engine bay will take a 1.8T a LOT more easilly than a 6n/6n2...

Just sayin'...

JBS start their 1.8T conversions at about Â£7500 "drive in - drive out" (ie that includes everything).

Have a look round Inters next year at all the 1.8T conversions and then go to the JBS stand and have a look at theirs. There IS a difference. The majority of the other conversions you'll see use non-drive-by-wire and non-VVT engines with aftermarket ECU's. JBS use the proper ECU with DBW VVT lumps.

I don't want to sound like an advert for JBS, but they really are at the top of the game.

Not saying you couldn't do it yourself, but in a 6n/6n2. expect it to take a LONG time.

Post by **Josh_PoloGTi** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:31 am

www.jbsautodesigns.co.uk

Oh, and Ceedubya:

Your conversion is sweet

jezmk4 · Post by **jezmk4** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:09 pm

Josh_PoloGTi wrote:The 9n engine bay will take a 1.8T a LOT more easilly than a 6n/6n2...

Just sayin'...

JBS start their 1.8T conversions at about Â£7500 "drive in - drive out" (ie that includes everything).

Have a look round Inters next year at all the 1.8T conversions and then go to the JBS stand and have a look at theirs. There IS a difference. The majority of the other conversions you'll see use non-drive-by-wire and non-VVT engines with aftermarket ECU's. JBS use the proper ECU with DBW VVT lumps.

I don't want to sound like an advert for JBS, but they really are at the top of the game.

Not saying you couldn't do it yourself, but in a 6n/6n2. expect it to take a LONG time.

Will deffo agree, there conversions look bloody good

go have a look at jamies r4byy 20v in a mk4, then go look at Ash's L9 ACP

the difference is obvious

the later is a JBS car, engine looks like stock fitment

same with badger bills missus's lupo, looks stock

and as for not being that hard, well, yes, yes it can!