Bigger Tyres and Speedo?

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Bigger Tyres and Speedo?

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Hi Guys. I have just had my standard 14' alloys and tyres removed and replaced with a set of 16' Montreals :D on 195/45/16 tyres. I cant help wondering whether its just me being paranoid but I feel as though I am having im to put my foot down a tad more than usual compared to the small wheels to get upto speed? Is this normal as they are bigger tyres than my old standard ones :? :? My 9n is a 1.4 16V.

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P.S - I have the original alloys with the Firestone tyres that come with the car for sale, they are in excellent condition with not a scratch on them. I can put pics up soon if anyone is interested.
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shakt1 wrote:Hi Guys. I have just had my standard 14' alloys and tyres removed and replaced with a set of 16' Montreals :D on 195/45/16 tyres. I cant help wondering whether its just me being paranoid but I feel as though I am having im to put my foot down a tad more than usual compared to the small wheels to get upto speed? Is this normal as they are bigger tyres than my old standard ones :? :? My 9n is a 1.4 16V.

Thanks


P.S - I have the original alloys with the Firestone tyres that come with the car for sale, they are in excellent condition with not a scratch on them. I can put pics up soon if anyone is interested.
The tyres dont really matter here.
Its the wheels, the 16s weigh more than the 14s, hence you have to give it extra power before it moves :lol: !
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carmadaaron wrote:
shakt1 wrote:Hi Guys. I have just had my standard 14' alloys and tyres removed and replaced with a set of 16' Montreals :D on 195/45/16 tyres. I cant help wondering whether its just me being paranoid but I feel as though I am having im to put my foot down a tad more than usual compared to the small wheels to get upto speed? Is this normal as they are bigger tyres than my old standard ones :? :? My 9n is a 1.4 16V.

Thanks


P.S - I have the original alloys with the Firestone tyres that come with the car for sale, they are in excellent condition with not a scratch on them. I can put pics up soon if anyone is interested.
The tyres dont really matter here.
Its the wheels, the 16s weigh more than the 14s, hence you have to give it extra power before it moves :lol: !
Also there is more tyre on the road creating more friction.
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Right both them points make sense and also I have noticed that the tyres seem to grip the road better. :) Will need to get myself a spare as well.

The guy I purchased the 16's from says the tyres are balanced and are ready to put on, I took his word for it (should I have :?) So I had the old ones taken off and new ones put on, but what I want to know is, after putting the new ones on was it compulsary to have them aligned or not because I didnt, the bloke down the garage just did a stright replacement, old for new (£10) :!:
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I may be wrong but i thought the balancing was something on the car that was changed not on the wheels.
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Balancing is something they do with the tyres as far as I know. When you have a new set put on. I want to know about alignement, do I need to get this done having replaced wheels&tyres?
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Balencing is done per wheel, they add little weights to either the inside or the outside of the wheel.

Tracking (alignement) is when they setup the front wheels to make sure its going stright and not pulling to one side, this can make uneven wear on tryes if not setup.

All new wheels should be balenced, tracking is optional but id recommend it, does the wheel shake at any speed? that can be a give away its out.
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chris4500uk wrote:Balencing is done per wheel, they add little weights to either the inside or the outside of the wheel.

Tracking (alignement) is when they setup the front wheels to make sure its going stright and not pulling to one side, this can make uneven wear on tryes if not setup.

All new wheels should be balenced, tracking is optional but id recommend it, does the wheel shake at any speed? that can be a give away its out.
Hi, No it doesnt shake as such. Took it on the motorway this afternoon to find out, around 70-80mph no shaking. Does drift very slightly to the left though,i mean very SLIGHTLY. Apart from that seems fine. Think its worth paying about £20 and getting it tracked? and its £4 per wheel to balance, as far as I know the tyres are balanced :? any way to tell?
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you'd know if it wasn't balanced. no need to get it re-done.

I'd recommend tracking, or at least keep an eye on tyre wear for unever wear, then get it done.
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david burton wrote:you'd know if it wasn't balanced. no need to get it re-done.

I'd recommend tracking, or at least keep an eye on tyre wear for unever wear, then get it done.
Just went to the garage for them to look at the tracking,turns out everythings fine, just 00.5 out on toe which the bloke said is nothing and everythings fine. Since there was nothing that needed doing he didnt even charge me for looking it. :D 1 Less thing to worry about!
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shakt1 wrote:Hi Guys. I have just had my standard 14' alloys and tyres removed and replaced with a set of 16' Montreals :D on 195/45/16 tyres. I cant help wondering whether its just me being paranoid but I feel as though I am having im to put my foot down a tad more than usual compared to the small wheels to get upto speed? Is this normal as they are bigger tyres than my old standard ones :? :?
Puting larger wheels will lenghten the gearing. This is because the engine is trying to move a mass further away from the centre of rotation therefore it will slow the acceleration but give higher top speed..
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the gearing is only affected by the outer circumference of the tyre, nothing else. the slower acceleration is an effect of the extra mass, but has nothing to do with the gearing.

if you have larger tyres in circumference, then the top speed will be higher due to one rotation of the tyre being a longer distance. so more rpm = more distance. this is only if the car can propel the larger tyre! if you put HUGE tyres on then the top speed might decrease because the engine can't cope and won't rev as high.

edit: but the speedo will say the same top speed, because the speedo is calibrated with rpm. hence the initial problem of larger tyres putting the speedo out.
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God that sounds really technical for me, in simple terms i need to put my foot down a little more and rev higher (2.5-3thosand on rev counter)
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