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Post by septic »

WTF are you guys talking about??!

And where on Earth do you learn this stuff?!
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@ BratmanGTI: Is more then just the loom, switching ECU's also requires to switch the transponder in the keys etc., and looms etc., so not just done, also, to get the Honda injectors working on a VW ECU is bound to get itso some kind of malfunction I'm guessing on, I'll first get into that before buying anything. Also the signals from the potentio-meter and idle-switch could be different, all requiring software remapping. So overall buying a Polo's multipoint system + looms + ECU + matching key transponder (for the startblocking) + the remap is almost as expensive as getting a stand-alone system. Plus such a system can be removed again when selling the car/engine, so I can use that system on another car if I wish :D

And about the differences between Ibiza's and Polo's, Ibiza are build on the base-frame of the Golf, which means they're wider/longer, especially in the front/enginebay, meaning there's more room to fit such an engine in. A swap will not go in straight, it does require some work with different enginemounts etc. Which can of course be welded properly etc. but requires some good craftsmenship, since it weighs quit a lot, not to mention the bhp where talking about. Also for breaking, just get the mk5 GTI ones, and upgrade those with drilled discs and better compound blocks, and braided hoses etc. That will do surely for the 150bhp from the 2.0 16v

@ septic: I know reading sucks, but when it's written on an interesting topic, it's quit nice to spend your time on :roll: :lol:
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Post by DanDiesel »

very nice Jarno! Brilliant to see the car in nearly one piece :D air ride must be awesome lol!
oh and don't be tempted to put on those BBS, mine aren't coming out of the garage until at least the middle of March!
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JarnoVWPolo6N wrote:@ BratmanGTI: Is more then just the loom, switching ECU's also requires to switch the transponder in the keys etc., and looms etc., so not just done, also, to get the Honda injectors working on a VW ECU is bound to get itso some kind of malfunction I'm guessing on, I'll first get into that before buying anything. Also the signals from the potentio-meter and idle-switch could be different, all requiring software remapping. So overall buying a Polo's multipoint system + looms + ECU + matching key transponder (for the startblocking) + the remap is almost as expensive as getting a stand-alone system. Plus such a system can be removed again when selling the car/engine, so I can use that system on another car if I wish :D

And about the differences between Ibiza's and Polo's, Ibiza are build on the base-frame of the Golf, which means they're wider/longer, especially in the front/enginebay, meaning there's more room to fit such an engine in. A swap will not go in straight, it does require some work with different enginemounts etc. Which can of course be welded properly etc. but requires some good craftsmenship, since it weighs quit a lot, not to mention the bhp where talking about. Also for breaking, just get the mk5 GTI ones, and upgrade those with drilled discs and better compound blocks, and braided hoses etc. That will do surely for the 150bhp from the 2.0 16v

@ septic: I know reading sucks, but when it's written on an interesting topic, it's quit nice to spend your time on :roll: :lol:
sorry big quote there
i know what your going on about with the key stop
but u can just plug in your laptop into the dignostics port and reset the new ecu to the old key i had to do it with mine when i changed from 1.0 to 1.4 and the the loom when i put the 1.6 top end on as the 1.6 has a different loom to the smaller engines
i had to get the platop out again
i know what u mean about spending as little as posable i try my hardest my self
but i found its worth waitin and talking around and finding these usefull people willing to do a favour
my mate go me the software from work and i bought a cable from ebay
i can now do all of my own remapping with a standard imos
i then had another mate solder in a a piggy slot to remove the imos chip and he lends me the hardware and soft were to program it my self
same im no good witht that sort of stuff but i can read any error and reset it
i personally would go for the multipoint kit and adapt the kit to go with the boddies but its not something i have looked into so u probably know more than me on this

the seat ibiza sub frame apparently will fit i found out last night as they are also used on the polo classic and is just an extention to the normal sub frame just need to weld in front support blocks
and the left mount :( which will be a pain in the ass
i am looking into a shell swap with an ibiza
as i would get the bigger front breaks and stronger front end
also rear discs and also all the luxurys climate control ABS etc etc
and i cannot see the ibiza being golf based as the front members and slam panels are the same also a freind has an ibiza front bumper on his polo

i am going for the 2.0 as its an old but solid engine that is a pretty good base for more performance obviously another turboing preoject might be on its way when 150 gets boring
as on the polo the hemispherical pistons seem to work way better that the standard forgeted replacments and they are also cheaper
i just dont want to b taking the hole of the car apart and not do the best i could have as its alot of work
like doing all the work its all clean and looks nice but you sit in and start up and the extre 20bhp just makes it seem like time wasted
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Post by Mike-Mk4 »

As I said earlier. Car looks great and can see alot of time, effort and money has gone into her, and to me, looks all worth it!! :D

I got hooked on this post, had to force my self last night to leave the rest till this morning lol.

Again, well done.

Mike.
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@ BratmanGTI: I think where not discussing the same thing when it comes to forged pistons, the reason I would go for forged ones does not lie in the extra BHP you could gain, but lies in the reliability of the engine when driving a charged engine. Forged pistons can take a lot more when it comes to pressure and heating, two factors which come about when leaving N/A and going charged. I know myself well enough to go out, and max the engine, frying my pistons and piston rings, so if I'd ever go charged, that's the reason I'd go for forged pistons, I wouldn't like frying up all that long hard work if you get what I mean. :(

Mike-Mk4 wrote:As I said earlier. Car looks great and can see alot of time, effort and money has gone into her, and to me, looks all worth it!! :D

I got hooked on this post, had to force my self last night to leave the rest till this morning lol.

Again, well done.

Mike.


Cheers for the major compliments m8! Kind of made me blush :oops: And yes, spend a lot of time, effort and money in it, but hey, that's why it's called a hobby innit? :roll: :lol:
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JarnoVWPolo6N wrote:
Mike-Mk4 wrote:As I said earlier. Car looks great and can see alot of time, effort and money has gone into her, and to me, looks all worth it!! :D

I got hooked on this post, had to force my self last night to leave the rest till this morning lol.

Again, well done.

Mike.


Cheers for the major compliments m8! Kind of made me blush :oops: And yes, spend a lot of time, effort and money in it, but hey, that's why it's called a hobby innit? :roll: :lol:
This is true! lol
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Post by septic »

It just feels wrong to call Jarno's ride a 'Polo' now. I've never seen one like his man. Esp that front bumper...that just sets it apart.
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Post by Petar001 »

Jarno car is great ! Can you get me cam like yours ? can't find it on ebay !


and to all this is Polo Clasic VR6 from Croatia
For BratMan Gti so you can see it can fit !
i know polo classic is biger than polo But look.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4931/img0045sy5.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/640/img0046os2.jpg

this is video
https://www.youtube*.com/watch?v=hT7ZPKVCpdQ

enjoy
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Post by BratManGTi »

Petar001 wrote:Jarno car is great ! Can you get me cam like yours ? can't find it on ebay !


and to all this is Polo Clasic VR6 from Croatia
For BratMan Gti so you can see it can fit !
i know polo classic is biger than polo But look.


enjoy
thanks for that its the fact the car has the mounts i want as standard its no bigger just more space as they moved everything about
people say they r build on the golf
vw machinic from inchcape shrewsbury say F*** off
he dragged me over to me car and said look under there at the front for those two boxes with holes in
i said what r they
the mounts for the other polo sub frame
stupidly enough i didnt ask him about the right hand engine mount
but too little time to go and see him

also jarno i dont wanna spend th same amount of money that my car did on pistons i would ranther throw the engine away and drop a new one in
i do understand all of the heat problems friction etc etc being a machanicale engineer in 3rd year in auto machanic design
but thanks for your thoughts
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Post by eileenk »

super looking car Jarno. I got same lights for xmas they make a real difference.
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Post by Acemo »

rite i was wondering, with your airride thingy, how do u manage with the tracking, because when i lowerd my car, i didnt have the tracking done and the inside of my tyres went completely bald, and cause if your constantly changing your ride height you cant cope with the added camber

if that makes sense at all :S
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Post by spot_on_jon »

wow thats one hell of a project and what an out come!!! dude your a legend and to have done all the work yourself.... my hat comes off for you!!

defo given me some ideas for mine now!!.... how hard was it to recover your roof liner??
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Post by JarnoVWPolo6N »

@ Acemo: I undertand what u mean m8, and the answer is quit simple, there's about one height that is farily good drivable which doesn't look like a cross-country, so put the airride on that height, the get the tracking done, and yes, it will be off when the airride is completely up or down, but it's not comfortable to ride that high or low, so I just set it on about the drivable hieght, and voila, tracking is (almost) correct again

@spot-on-jon: thanx m8, some big positive comments there, but got to admit, your mk4 looks smashing too from the looks of your lowerscript pics!
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Post by septic »

When you coming down ere Jarno?
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