need help/advice on vw locking nuts

loud · Post by **loud** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:35 pm

My cars in a garage and they are sayin they can't find the locking wheel nut, searched the car many times and no sign of it, I phoned the folk I bought it from who fitted two tyres before I bought it so used the nut and they are just saying it'll be in the car...but it looks like it isn't.

they are saying to remove and replace the bolts it'll be like Â£150 cos of the time it'll take...

can you get a replacement key or anything? It says in the handbook the code for the nut is on the nut itself...that's handy.

I really don't know the best way to go about it, I'm absolutely furious so not really thinking straight

Tim_GTi · Post by **Tim_GTi** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:55 pm

VW dealers have a mastr key that will work on it. I don't know what you have to do to get them to do it for you though

MateyGuv · Post by **MateyGuv** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:08 pm

I'm fairly sure the VW locking nuts only have about 20 variations so you should be able to order a new one through parts with your chassis number for about Â£20

M@Turner · Post by **M@Turner** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:07 pm

Â£150

Thats a load of rubbish! You can get hold of a kit which has lots of different attachments for removing locking wheel nuts without the special bolt!!! It ruins the locking wheel nut but then you've only gotta pay for a new set!!! Â£15 approximately.

Pretty sure Bstardchild has a kit!

kc · Post by kc » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:25 pm

get a cheap 18mm socket, hammer, 10 mins....

...happy times... lol

Tim_GTi · Post by **Tim_GTi** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:23 am

I think it's more around 50 different variations. Any dealer should be able to help you out though.

loud · Post by **loud** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:09 am

cool i'll check around, there's no way i was going to pay that much money for something like that!

cheers for the replies

pip_polo · Post by **pip_polo** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:32 am

Tim_GTi wrote:I think it's more around 50 different variations. Any dealer should be able to help you out though.

as said, there are over 50 combinations, i'm sure if you took it to VW explained whats happened and proved the car is yours and stuff they could help you..

RUM4MO · Post by **RUM4MO** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:41 pm

kc wrote:get a cheap 18mm socket, hammer, 10 mins....

...happy times... lol

Exactly, and now a tip for everyone else, go and get that key and note down the ident on it - just in case.
I'm sure that there will be a way to "decode" the damaged, but removed mystery security bolt - then just get VW to order you in a new set with that coding - must be possible even although they would rather just sell you a new but random coded set.

flyfs6 · Post by **flyfs6** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:48 pm

Check the tool kit/vinyl pouch thing. There's a little compartment/pocket within. It maybe in there, thats where it was in mine from new.

whitegtipolo · Post by **whitegtipolo** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:02 pm

if you live near me ill get em off have a special too we do cos we need it for our job when doing a spare wheel and they dont have a lock nut ! Has loads a attachments and a impact driver!

david burton · Post by **david burton** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:53 am

don't get anyone other than VW to sort it out. there's no point in getting someone to force the locking bolt off.

just pop to VW and explain you don't have the "key". They'll get a kit and offer up the various types of master socket until one fits. it'll cost about 16 quid for the replacement.

have a closer look in the boot though, as mentioned above. I did this exact process on my passat and the thing was actually hidden in the aforementioned pouch!

RUM4MO · Post by **RUM4MO** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:56 pm

david burton wrote:don't get anyone other than VW to sort it out. there's no point in getting someone to force the locking bolt off.

just pop to VW and explain you don't have the "key". They'll get a kit and offer up the various types of master socket until one fits. it'll cost about 16 quid for the replacement.

If you do go down this route, why not get them to remove all four security bolts and buy four new ordinary ones to fit while the new adaptor is being ordered - or just buy a new locking wheel bolt kit if time and fuel is a problem.

When this happened to my mate with his Saab, local tyre fixer just whacked on a "tight fit" socket - no wheel damage but one locking bolt wrecked. He had a serious word with his garage "did you try removing the spare wheel - we sometimes just throw it (the adaptor) back in" they said. They were right, but as always best to check up on these things BEFORE you need to use them,especially when buying a used car.

Post by **alexperkins** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:18 pm

There are 57 combinations of VW locking bolt. Most good dealerships hold two sets of master removal nuts and should just let you use the correct one when asked for. We always did anyway!