ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Kiogen,
Your real problem is that your current BCM does not have the necessary pins (T73a / 1, T73a / 2, T73a / 63, T73a / 37, T73b / 1, T73b / 2, T73b / 68, etc ...) to manage automatic lights.
Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.
I can not see the images from your previous reply.
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Your real problem is that your current BCM does not have the necessary pins (T73a / 1, T73a / 2, T73a / 63, T73a / 37, T73b / 1, T73b / 2, T73b / 68, etc ...) to manage automatic lights.
Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.
I can not see the images from your previous reply.
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To everyone:
I can not answer all the emails I have received (a issue of time)... I'm so sorry ... Please be patient, I have read all them (this is a crazy ), everything is controlled and managed.
Tomorrow it also is impossible, I'm traveling.
Thanks for your patience and understanding.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
I will remove my BCM again as soon as i can, i have the T73a/37 present and i have a wire there already that i fit, i dont remember if i have all the others but next time i will take a picture, the BCM is not a problem for me as i can get another one any time, i just want to know if im going in the right direction as i want to make all the wiring changes before fitting a new BCM.ciclo wrote:Kiogen,
Your real problem is that your current BCM does not have the necessary pins (T73a / 1, T73a / 2, T73a / 63, T73a / 37, T73b / 1, T73b / 2, T73b / 68, etc ...) to manage automatic lights.
Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.
I can not see the images from your previous reply.
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To everyone:
I can not answer all the emails I have received (a issue of time)... I'm so sorry ... Please be patient, I have read all them (this is a crazy ), everything is controlled and managed.
Tomorrow it also is impossible, I'm traveling.
Thanks for your patience and understanding.
i think that the images are already working
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Kiogen wrote: I will remove my BCM again as soon as i can, i have the T73a/37 present and i have a wire there already that i fit, i dont remember if i have all the others but next time i will take a picture, the BCM is not a problem for me as i can get another one any time, i just want to know if im going in the right direction as i want to make all the wiring changes before fitting a new BCM.
i think that the images are already working
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ciclo wrote:
Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
thank you very much, I have bixenon headlights, then I will buy the new fogciclo wrote:Thanks CNK.CNK wrote:Yes, Fog lights with DRL — Polo 6R R-Line: 6R0 941 061 E + 6R0 941 062 E (https://www.drive2.ru/l/458163472711033418/)ciclo wrote:6R GTI, BlueGT and R-line have different fog lamps.
Check it in ETKA online.
IIRC Bachecco has bixenon headlights ...
In such case: Polo 6R R-Line: 6R0 941 061 F + 6R0 941 062 F (on eBay.de there is a good deal)
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
TPMS (info) only
Previously... (excellent info) viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=2835#p516356
Now... (Found by Adam87 in ETKA)
AMAROK 2018 (preliminary study)
7K3 -- (RDK) Tire pressure control, frequency 433 MHz high level version
I suppose it will also be necessary to edit the unit/EEPROM for the wheel sizes. Similar to this
Previously... (excellent info) viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=2835#p516356
Now... (Found by Adam87 in ETKA)
AMAROK 2018 (preliminary study)
7K3 -- (RDK) Tire pressure control, frequency 433 MHz high level version
I suppose it will also be necessary to edit the unit/EEPROM for the wheel sizes. Similar to this
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
7E0937090B
Works like a charm... with Bixenon Headlights. All functions: All functions that worked with the previous 7E0937090 BCM. NEW? Still to be discovered, something I have seen in the Gateway and BCM adaptation channels... this first contact was only for its installation and check its correct operation.
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Works like a charm... with Bixenon Headlights. All functions: All functions that worked with the previous 7E0937090 BCM. NEW? Still to be discovered, something I have seen in the Gateway and BCM adaptation channels... this first contact was only for its installation and check its correct operation.
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Saturday,21,January,2017,14:10:32:06516
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.1.2
Data version: 20170107 DS267.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO License Plate: 7E0937090B
Mileage: Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2E 37 44 55 56 77 0B
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO Mileage:
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZC) Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
Part No SW: 03F 906 070 GD HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 5466
Revision: --H10--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 001100D6202400080000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070GD 004007
ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
VCID: 6A5F3A240F181F97E7-803E
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Revision: --------
Coding: 210228E3216D00B5842814EA84D300401700
Shop #: WSC 40308 002 104857
VCID: 02F70AFC63E08FBF27-8056
No fault code found.
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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels: 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 654 HW: 6R0 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H07 0070
Serial number: 08021613470174
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
VCID: 7E6B12607F7C972307-802A
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Component: Climatronic H11 0711
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 3821A69E5F1E4B3577-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 B HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H81 0744
Revision: B9081001 Serial number: 0982 320160060
Coding: 3CB02FBF48E1240093380ED1FCEB9FD1DAC067AF600D30D0200000030800
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 2A1FBA6407D89F57E7-807E
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B
Component: RLS 110215 03 37 0059
Coding: 0728DD
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD HW: 6R0 959 801 BD Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8612
Serial number: KU0KU003041440937042
Coding: 0200A3
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF HW: 6R0 959 802 BF Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8612
Serial number: KU0KU006031440656541
Coding: 1000AB
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H11 9005
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442 HW: 1K8 959 442
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H03 0103
Serial number: 27140003142720054516
Coding: A4FFFF
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G HW: 6R0 959 811 G
Component: J388__TSG_HL 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU003051200017821
Coding: 18BC32
Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G HW: 6R0 959 812 G
Component: J389__TSG_HR 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU010051200012315
Coding: 18BC32
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 C HW: 7E0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 4K H11 0013
Revision: -------- Serial number: 47361212601014
Coding: 308001
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
VCID: 3E2B92A07F3C17E307-806A
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX01JKVVP
Coding: 00314D
Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 4A3F7AC48F78DFB7E7-801E
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575HRB405N1C4LI7929
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3585HRB405B1D5MS8GS2
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB405B17ABS901.
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB405B181TUDPKC
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 C HW: 6R0 920 870 C
Component: KOMBI H05 0607
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140E01
Shop #: WSC 00233 572 91226
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 3522A0875BE159204F-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744
Revision: B9081001
Coding: 002200
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 6851462E1FEE2B85F7-803C
No fault code found.
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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844) Labels: 8S0-857-511.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G HW: 7E0 857 511 E
Component: FLA H10 0003
Revision: AA001001
Coding: 0404001C00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 03607 002 104857
ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
VCID: 2E1BB2703FCC777387-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H05 0607
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6A5F3A240F181F97E7-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F HW: 5N0 035 342 F
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0530
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7662584630
Coding: 010100
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 2A1FBA6407D89F57E7-807E
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H06 5218
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
Coding: 04000442040000A10001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 3720A49D5B1B4D327F-8062
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V14 8477
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11250
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2F18B475AFC37D7ABF-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0112000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
VCID: 7760245D535BCD727F-8022
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H06 5218
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
Coding: 04000442040000A10001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 3720A49D5B1B4D327F-8062
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V14 8477
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L HW: 7P6 035 730 L
Component: TELEFON H15 3200
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007664158506
Coding: 0501000000010110
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
VCID: 3B2C9CA9430F25CE1F-806E
No fault code found.
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Last edited by ciclo on Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
today i took my BCM out again, it confirms what Ciclo said, my BCM doesnt have the necessary pins, the other time i took it out i've mistaken myself when counting the pins as it was the first time messing with this kind of stuff, now i can see the missing pins with much ease.ciclo wrote:
Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.
im now trying to fully understand elsawin schematics and only i'll ask something if im really out of options/ideas.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Kiogen
The basic principle is the same (J331 relay) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... ZQN1U/view , but your fuses are different (other numbering)
You do not have to make the wiring for Automatic lights (from 17 to 10 pin) because the Seat Ibiza have a 17-pin Light Switch with the 'AUTO' function.
Do not hesitate to ask if you have problems with the diagrams.
You must keep in mind that the final result is a combination between the wires correctly installed and BCM coding.
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Edit, more info:
You do not have to modify the original wiring installation of your front fog lamps (T17/8).
You also need the Additiotinal Relay (J828) for headlights - search on elsawin this relay-
For the rest of the Wires/Pins/Slots also look here:
The basic principle is the same (J331 relay) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... ZQN1U/view , but your fuses are different (other numbering)
You do not have to make the wiring for Automatic lights (from 17 to 10 pin) because the Seat Ibiza have a 17-pin Light Switch with the 'AUTO' function.
Do not hesitate to ask if you have problems with the diagrams.
You must keep in mind that the final result is a combination between the wires correctly installed and BCM coding.
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Edit, more info:
You do not have to modify the original wiring installation of your front fog lamps (T17/8).
You also need the Additiotinal Relay (J828) for headlights - search on elsawin this relay-
For the rest of the Wires/Pins/Slots also look here:
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
So, if im not wrong you're comparing on the same year but different PR codes? 7L3 are for cars without start/stop like mine, 7L6 are cars with start/stop, does it mean that every car with start/stop got "AUTO"?
Today i've made some printscreening on ELSA, so that i can see how big the differences are and i think i've got a decent JPEG with only the wires that i have to add or modify, can you check it?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6FlhY ... sp=sharing
Does the PDF guide that you post only serves for polo or if i follow it will also work?
The thing confuses me is when there are multiple wires in the same spot, like fuse SC7b that right now is connected to A88 that is connected to T6/6 and T32/13.
When doing the changes i should add a wire from A88 to T73a/6 right?
But if following the SC7a it connects to T17/9 right now i must also add a wire from T73b/43?
Today i've made some printscreening on ELSA, so that i can see how big the differences are and i think i've got a decent JPEG with only the wires that i have to add or modify, can you check it?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6FlhY ... sp=sharing
Does the PDF guide that you post only serves for polo or if i follow it will also work?
The thing confuses me is when there are multiple wires in the same spot, like fuse SC7b that right now is connected to A88 that is connected to T6/6 and T32/13.
When doing the changes i should add a wire from A88 to T73a/6 right?
But if following the SC7a it connects to T17/9 right now i must also add a wire from T73b/43?
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Example for rear fog light:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2nv9 ... ExRMlR2VlU
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2nv9 ... ExRMlR2VlU
Please, post here the link to your new topic.Kiogen wrote:So, if im not wrong you're comparing on the same year but different PR codes? Yes
7L3 are for cars without start/stop like mine, 7L6 are cars with start/stop, does it mean that every car with start/stop got "AUTO"? The explanation would be too long ... Three years of knowledges.
Depends on the equipment installed, Model Year, etc...
Today i've made some printscreening on ELSA, so that i can see how big the differences are and i think i've got a decent JPEG with only the wires that i have to add or modify, can you check it?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6FlhY ... sp=sharing
It's OK but no it's full (DRLs, Coming home from factory -Relay/control unit J665-?), you must open a new topic in the Ibiza section. Example: Kiogen's Ibiza SC 2.0TDI
Post there all possible info, pictures from your Ibiza, Autoscan, etc ... Please, also post the pictures of connectors, relay carrier, fusebox, etc ... (logically, I'm not soothsayer ). It is necessary to know the factory equipment that your Ibiza has installed and that it is not possible to know it with the Autoscan because it depends on other factors. (MY, mods, etc...). For example, I can guess that the xenon headlight model has changed over the years in your Ibiza model, right?
If you have patience and time this will be solved. We'll do the same like example above with all lights.
Does the PDF guide that you post only serves for polo (yes) or if i follow it will also work? No
The thing confuses me is when there are multiple wires in the same spot, like fuse SC7b that right now is connected to A88 that is connected to T6/6 and T32/13.
When doing the changes i should add a wire from A88 to T73a/6 right?
But if following the SC7a it connects to T17/9 right now i must also add a wire from T73b/43?
Look the above example.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Hello ciclo I would buy AUTO lights. CH / LH. OEM. I live in France . I could pay by paypal thank you cordially
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Hello seinarith nou. Welcome.seinarith nou wrote:Hello ciclo I would buy AUTO lights. CH / LH. OEM. I live in France . I could pay by paypal thank you cordially
Ok, but first, please, can you send me a VCDS autoscan to my email? Thank you.
...and please read here A- Automatic lights wiring + CH/LH for you to know the price, shipping details, installation guide, tool, etc ...
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Thank you very much ciclo, you have been very helpfull.
I don't think the xenon has changed, there are 3 different headlights. Mine, one with half black background and other with full black background, then came the facelift that has a completly different headlight with LED drl, mine are halogen drl.
But not 100%sure.
I do have CH on mine but have to flash the highbeam before opening the door. My CH uses the fogs.
Im working on the Ibiza topic, just need to take some pictures then will leave the link.
I don't think the xenon has changed, there are 3 different headlights. Mine, one with half black background and other with full black background, then came the facelift that has a completly different headlight with LED drl, mine are halogen drl.
But not 100%sure.
I do have CH on mine but have to flash the highbeam before opening the door. My CH uses the fogs.
Im working on the Ibiza topic, just need to take some pictures then will leave the link.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Right. They were changed to LED drl's from February 2012.Kiogen wrote:Thank you very much ciclo, you have been very helpfull.
I don't think the xenon has changed, there are 3 different headlights. Mine, one with half black background and other with full black background, then came the facelift that has a completly different headlight with LED drl, mine are halogen drl.
But not 100%sure.
The function of the relay/control unit J665 can be managed by the BCM Max. So you will have to remove this relay, it will have to be studied carefully.Kiogen wrote: I do have CH on mine but have to flash the highbeam before opening the door. My CH uses the fogs.
CH function is also semiautomatic with the BCM Max (in the same way). Only LH function is automatic, apart from the Automatic Lights.
Excellent! I'll subscribe. It is something new and very interesting.Kiogen wrote: Im working on the Ibiza topic, just need to take some pictures then will leave the link.
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I'll have you know that it took me the best part of three years to figure out that 'ciclo' is basically 'bike' in English.
And I have a t-shirt and a pillow with a bike on it. And secretly a headwarmer with "I [heart] [bike]'.
I guess I'm secretly a big fan....
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And I have a t-shirt and a pillow with a bike on it. And secretly a headwarmer with "I [heart] [bike]'.
I guess I'm secretly a big fan....
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