Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch

[MaDwArLoCk]

Nooit te bang, man!

Really when the wiring is in front of you, it's much easier to Investigate than when you're upside downin inside of the car.
I know that this is not the best option, but cables can always be extended.
by the way in the originl wiring loom there are a lot of extentions/connections.

So i will try to use those wires. I think i have all necessary things now

[ciclo]

So i will study some more topics and i will try to do it all myself!
With your advices i hope!

Of course. Sharing is the main reason for everything.

hmm... did you try https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing from here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
...or this? viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70182#p523706 ...this... yeees ...

What do you think about my purchase?
Can i use "449" relay for CH/LH?

Perfect x2.

... damaging them in the process.

With good tools and personal skills? I do not think so.

I think i have all necessary things now

Black and Red connetors + contact terminals ?
On second thought --------, you can do it without these connectors...

[MaDwArLoCk]

Thanks, Ciclo!
I think I can do it without those connectors!
I'll try to prepare something at this weekend!

[ciclo]

I'm sure we'll achieve it, it's a simple kids puzzle.

Do it correctly. The new wire from T73a/45 to the light switch connector is very important.
All this is perfectly explained in the guide (with images).

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Only for info:
Your actual light switch connector (T17)

This is a hell... , and you do not have to look at it again, follow the installation guide.

[MaDwArLoCk]

I'm sure we'll achieve it, it's a simple kids puzzle.

I like puzzles! but this one is not so simple for me..

[MaDwArLoCk]

In process...


I have a question about License plate light.
In the original wiring loom from T37B/7 going straight to license plate.
But in your wiring it should be T37B/7 - T17/16.
If I will connect it straight to License plate light, What should I do with T17/16?

[MaDwArLoCk]

It will be not the same connections for 449 relays?

646=449
3=1
5=2
1=3
2=5

Is it correct?

[ciclo]

In process...
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I have a question about License plate light.
1. In the original wiring loom from T37B/7 going straight to license plate. ...(73)...

2. But in your wiring it should be T37B/7 - T17/16.

3. If I will connect it straight to License plate light, What should I do with T17/16?

A picture really interesting. Thank you very much. (downloaded)

1. Right.

2. Is an efficient way to power the plates lights with the original wiring when making this modification to install BCM Max on 6R Europe (2009-2014).
Note: bla,bla,bla..... in the easiest way possible.
In your original wiring without BCM Max, light switch output T17/16 feeds or provides signal to several systems. Among others, Dimmer T6/3, BCM T73a/45, and license plate lights.
Therefore... as clear as water, ... during the process you already have isolated the other systems in your original installation without BCM Max, except LPLs.
The trick is perfectly ready to be used.

3. Isolate.

It will be not the same connections for 449 relays?
[url=https://postimg.org/image/7ebyju9st/][img]https://s30.postimg.org/6ot67h99d/IMG_5115.jpg[/img
646=449
3=1
5=2
1=3
2=5

Is it correct?

Yes. Exactly the same connections.
It's correct.

The numbering written on the relay adapters is not the key, there are several identical or similar adapters with different slot numbers.
The important thing is written on/beside the relay pins (and lateral scheme).

[MaDwArLoCk]

the easiest way possible.

Thanks,I think you are right!

I will finish installation today!
What should inchange in BCM coding?

[ciclo]

Your Autoscan
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70182#p523698


H7 headlights + Fog lights without BCM control(factory)

BCM Max + Automatic lights + LED Plate lights (note: without Bixenon, therefore, without cornering lights, and without DRLs)

New BCM coding:
24B02BBF48E3240093300FB02CEB1ED01BC0610E60042001200000030000

New RLS coding:
06302D

There should be no faults related to the lights if the electrical installation is correct, and the lights should work properly. All functions.
Post a new autoscan with results.

[MaDwArLoCk]

He hey! It's working!
Thanks a lot, Ciclo!

Now i have only one fault in Bcm:
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

i made new dimmer cable T6/3 - T73B/1.
What can be wrong?

And 61-Battery Regul. and 0B.Sec Air Heating is still here

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VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU000000   License Plate: 
Mileage: 156960km-97530mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 44 56 77 0B

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU000000   Mileage: 156960km-97530miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 D    HW: 03F 906 070 D
   Component: SIMOS10.20H02 9851  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001900D6202400080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12FTS02103F906070D 003015
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 234234CE2A4EB859D4-8076

No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM12FTS02103F906070D" (VW25) 
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AF    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0005  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3227300BA842C14E844D600401300
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
   VCID: 020C514A99945151FF-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H11 0711  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 3878F3A28BC8CB8111-806C

3 Faults Found:
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 11
                    Mileage: 156745 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.01.07
                    Time: 00:16:08

01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70) 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 11
                    Mileage: 156745 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.01.07
                    Time: 00:16:08

00457 - Control Module for Network (J519) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 156965 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.01.11
                    Time: 00:14:18


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 B    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0712  
   Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0571 017140713
   Coding: 24B02BBF48E3240093300FB02CEB1ED01BC0610E60042001200000030000
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 2D56D2F6748A7E2972-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 210310 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 06302D

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 R    HW: 6R0 959 801 R  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 0903 
   Serial number: KU0-KU028.04.1013935
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 T    HW: 6R0 959 802 T  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 0902 
   Serial number: KU0-KU030.04.1010613
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9004 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F    HW: 6R0 959 811 F
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 0902 
   Serial number: KU0-KU026.04.1016866
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F    HW: 6R0 959 812 F
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 0902 
   Serial number: KU0-KU020.04.1013618
   Coding: 08BC32

1 Fault Found:
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 156965 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.01.11
                    Time: 00:14:19


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 A    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H10 0011  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 64531012301615
   Coding: 100003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAsiss2 S01008
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3C70EFB2B7F0E7A1F5-8068

No ASAM data for: "EV_VW250ParkiAsiss2" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag00K H08 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX002F4VI
   Coding: 00304B
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AibraVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 4A9CB96AED24491177-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3572SRB40000B53459C7

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3582SRB40000B520C0C1

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB405D6QGG0HO90

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB405B6SD5OFPMN

No ASAM data for: "EV_AibraVW10BPAVW250" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 D    HW: 6R0 920 860 D
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0207  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140800
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3566FA9694DA36E90A-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0712  
   Revision: B9074001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 70E80B82A33853C119-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0207  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_DVD_RM09 A03006
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 6ADC19EA8DE4A91157-803E

No ASAM data for: "EV_Immo_UDS_DVD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R
   Component: RNS-MID       H21 6270  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N8319084
   Coding: 040104020100002C0001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3D76E2B6A4EAEEA9C2-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V14  8477 

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11230
   Shop #: WSC 31414  
   VCID: 2F6AC8FEEA860C3940-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R
   Component: RNS-MID       H21 6270  
   Coding: 040104020100002C0001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3D76E2B6A4EAEEA9C2-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V14  

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 D    HW: 7P6 035 730 D
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0440  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007668399469
   Coding: 0A00000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: UHVAN A01007
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3362C48E9AAE28D924-8066

No ASAM data for: "UHVAN" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

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[MaDwArLoCk]

Dimmer, High beam and rear fog lamp doesn't work

[iichel]

High beam: check wiring to relay. Hear click when low beam engages.

[MaDwArLoCk]

What about dimmer? Maybe try to connect it to T73B/4?

[iichel]

I think b4 is for 7E0 but you can have a try