GTI and GTI plus owners experiences

[EmiLiuZ]

Looking for something fun to drive and built well

Should I buy one. Very interested. And im unsure.

Needs to make me smile when I floor it and be able to carry my family when needed

Them theres the lead times..

I don't think you'll find a better equipped new hot hatch for the money than the GTI+, if you can stomach the potential wait. 6.7s might not seem lightning fast, but you have to go Golf sized to get noticeably quicker.

If you venture over to Youtube there are 0-100 times measured at 6.4s and even one at 6.0s for the Polo GTI. This is right in the territory of the Golf GTI performance. I wonder if VW advertises 6.7 as a conservative figure in order to give it further differentiation from its bigger more expensive brother?

The golf GTI has known issues for its launch control. But it is true that most car manufactures likes to play rather safe than sorry

[EmiLiuZ]

Looking for something fun to drive and built well

Should I buy one. Very interested. And im unsure.

Needs to make me smile when I floor it and be able to carry my family when needed

Them theres the lead times..

I don't think you'll find a better equipped new hot hatch for the money than the GTI+, if you can stomach the potential wait. 6.7s might not seem lightning fast, but you have to go Golf sized to get noticeably quicker.

If you venture over to Youtube there are 0-100 times measured at 6.4s and even one at 6.0s for the Polo GTI. This is right in the territory of the Golf GTI performance. I wonder if VW advertises 6.7 as a conservative figure in order to give it further differentiation from its bigger more expensive brother?

The golf GTI has known issues for its launch control. But it is true that most car manufactures likes to play rather safe than sorry

[monkeyhanger]

0 - 100 in 6 - 6.7 seconds??? I'll have one of them

Hahahh. kph that is.

A better definition of performance. At least when 0-100kmph is stated, you know they mean 0 - 62mph, as a direct comparison to the official figures. I do think that some of these much shorter times on YouTube are for 0 -60 mph and not 0-62mph. It might only be 2mph difference, but if that 60-62mph coincides with a gear change threshold, there might be half a second in it.

I do wonder whether VW (and all the other manufacturers) are now tied to using the same set of tyres for all their official figures, or could they chop and change e.g. do the 0 - 62 times with the car on super sticky Michelin Pilot Super Sports to minimise tramping and maximise standing start traction, and then do the economy/CO2 figures with a car sat on tyres rated A for fuel economy.

If I swapped out my Bridgestones for Michelin PSS, I'm sure I could knock half a second off the 0 - 62mph time it would give now.

[monkeyhanger]

Hi all.
Did anyone have their gti remapped or know someone who did?
What is it like afterwards??

Not sure anyone has. Most of the tuners were waiting for the WLTP compliant GTIs to come through. 240ps seems to be about the limit, someone reported that Burgersports were working on a tuning box, but there were overheating issues above 240ps due to the relatively small stock intercooler.

I did get a DTUK box put on my Golf GTD, taking it from 184ps/380Nm to 240ps/510Nm. It was amazing - the car pulled as strongly in 6th as it used to pull in 4th.

[New-gti-guy]

Hi all.
Did anyone have their gti remapped or know someone who did?
What is it like afterwards??

Not sure anyone has. Most of the tuners were waiting for the WLTP compliant GTIs to come through. 240ps seems to be about the limit, someone reported that Burgersports were working on a tuning box, but there were overheating issues above 240ps due to the relatively small stock intercooler.

I did get a DTUK box put on my Golf GTD, taking it from 184ps/380Nm to 240ps/510Nm. It was amazing - the car pulled as strongly in 6th as it used to pull in 4th.

Wow. Yeah, that's be great if they come up with some decent tuning/mapping setup. 0-60 will drop close to 5.9 i bet

[monkeyhanger]

Hi all.
Did anyone have their gti remapped or know someone who did?
What is it like afterwards??

Not sure anyone has. Most of the tuners were waiting for the WLTP compliant GTIs to come through. 240ps seems to be about the limit, someone reported that Burgersports were working on a tuning box, but there were overheating issues above 240ps due to the relatively small stock intercooler.

I did get a DTUK box put on my Golf GTD, taking it from 184ps/380Nm to 240ps/510Nm. It was amazing - the car pulled as strongly in 6th as it used to pull in 4th.

Wow. Yeah, that's be great if they come up with some decent tuning/mapping setup. 0-60 will drop close to 5.9 i bet

Probably 5.9/6.0 seconds dead on good rubber (to minimise tramping) 6.4 on not so good rubber. The new Golf GTI Performance is 245 ps and weighs about 60kg more than the Polo GTI+, not a lot of weight advantage to the Polo that'll 'be 5ps down.

[Cadwest]

Not sure anyone has. Most of the tuners were waiting for the WLTP compliant GTIs to come through. 240ps seems to be about the limit, someone reported that Burgersports were working on a tuning box, but there were overheating issues above 240ps due to the relatively small stock intercooler.

I did get a DTUK box put on my Golf GTD, taking it from 184ps/380Nm to 240ps/510Nm. It was amazing - the car pulled as strongly in 6th as it used to pull in 4th.

Wow. Yeah, that's be great if they come up with some decent tuning/mapping setup. 0-60 will drop close to 5.9 i bet

Probably 5.9/6.0 seconds dead on good rubber (to minimise tramping) 6.4 on not so good rubber. The new Golf GTI Performance is 245 ps and weighs about 60kg more than the Polo GTI+, not a lot of weight advantage to the Polo that'll 'be 5ps down.

TDI do a box at the moment for 250ps and 384nm and Ptronics do one that gives 263ps 439nm.

[monkeyhanger]

Burgersports have a great tuning reputation (mainly in USA) withh their JB tuning boxes and they say that the intercooler is the limiting factor, so I'd be reluctant to go above their limit of 240ps to avoid overheating.

Some tuners just jack up the output and give no consideration to longevity. I've had an awful TDI-Tuning box on my old MK7 Golf GTD. It can like a bag of hammers with lumpy delivery and massive overfuelling across the throttle input range. The DTUK one was miles better in comparison and bring local, I was able to try one out before I bought.

[Cadwest]

See the GTI and GTI plus are back on the configurator still no manual though.

[MattHGR]

See the GTI and GTI plus are back on the configurator still no manual though.

Noticed the following as standard equipment for GTi plus models - Scuff plates in door apertures (illuminated)
Wasn't there before was it?

Does this mean vehicles built from now onwards will have this, regardless of whether it was standard equipment when you made the order ?

[peeceeuk]

See the GTI and GTI plus are back on the configurator still no manual though.

Noticed the following as standard equipment for GTi plus models - Scuff plates in door apertures (illuminated)
Wasn't there before was it?

Does this mean vehicles built from now onwards will have this, regardless of whether it was standard equipment when you made the order ?

That would be a nice touch.
I hope that they are popping them into subsequent builds.

[monkeyhanger]

We've had a week of highs and lows, weather-wise. I've been keeping a close eye on mpg, performance, thresholds of stop-start cutting in (temp and battery charge).

With the ambient temp below 3C, the stop start was unavailable for the first 11 miles of my 13 mile commute - well beyond the point that the oil temp was above 90C (6 miles). Below zero, the dtop-start never came on at all. Today, with a relatively toasty 7.5C ambient temp this morning, the stop-start kicked in at 2 miles, when the water was just above 90C, but the oil hadn't even hit 50C.

My battery charge level was consistently at 14.2V all week.

It seems that ambient temp is the most important factor in allowing stop-start to kick in.

This afternoon, with a 9.5C ambient temp, I put my foot down more than usual and got 38mpg. During the lows of -4C, and driving like a nun, I hit 31mpg. Those differences are what I'd expect from a diesel. With those comparative temp differences, my Golf R would differ by only 2-3 mpg.

I had an unusual message on the CAR screen that tells you about stop-start availability. I'd had stop-start a few times on the way home, and then after a 3 mile unbroken run It refused to kick in at what was going to be a long wait at lights. The info stated "engine running" - of course it was, I wanted it to stop.

[peeceeuk]

Isn't the starting of an engine something that consumes more fuel?
Surely, constant restarts of the engine consumes more fuel than idling.
Is it not purely a just a positive for the green and clean to not be emitting fumes while at a stand still?

[MattHGR]

Once the engine is warm, no it doesn't use more fuel.
The starter brings the engine pretty much up to speed and the fuel really isn't needed much.
When the engine is cold (or for older vehicles warm or cold ) starting the engine uses more fuel and it isn't really useful unless you wait more than 60 seconds.

[monkeyhanger]

Start stop uses as much fuel per stop as needed for about 20 seconds-worth of idling. I turn mine off at the start of every journey, and put it on if I have a long stop (like just missing the lights on a busy junction).

If you're sat for more than 20 seconds, it's worth start stop kicking in.