Polo 6R 09 1.4 85KM

Post by **ciclo** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:38 pm

Ok, thanks a lot for the report.

Please, once you have installed the RLS let me know, we have to code the BCM and RLS (again), thank you.

It is recommended that you update or use another VCDS version to clear up/clarify some of the "detected bugs" in Autoscan with version 15.7.1 in other units.
However and as you can see in the real world everything works despite those bugs.

I am here in case you have new concerns about the lights.

dcgumis · Post by **dcgumis** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:44 pm

ciclo wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:38 pm Ok, thanks a lot for the report.

Please, once you have installed the RLS let me know, we have to code the BCM and RLS (again), thank you.

It is recommended that you update or use another VCDS version to clear up/clarify some of the "detected bugs" in Autoscan with version 15.7.1 in other units.
However and as you can see in the real world everything works despite those bugs.

I am here in case you have new concerns about the lights.

Thank you for your help. I was afraid to do it myself. Today I installed new steering wheel GTI POLO 6C /UP GTI,
steering wheel 6c0 419 091 cb
Airbag wiring 6C0971584

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   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 

   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H04 0103 

   Coding: A4FFFF

I'm a bit worried that I can't connect to the engine

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Address 01: Engine

Cannot be reached

Is ALWR in bi-xenon the same as in polo 6c lamps with full LED POLO 6C ?

Is the wiring harness the same?

https://www.ebay.pl/itm/VW-Polo-6R-ALWR ... XQH-pRB9yg

Post by **iichel** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:19 pm

No, for ALWR in Polo 6R with LED headlights, you must have a a different module with different parameterization.
Read this with translator: https://www.drive2.ru/l/519838378447864355/

Post by **ciclo** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:05 am

AFS
In this CNK thread you have the correct parts for your POLO 6R:
https://www.drive2.ru/l/458163472711033418/

4. Auto leveling headlight system (AFS)
a) Axle sensor (6R0 941 273 B)
b) AFS unit (6R0 907 357 C)
c) Holder on rear axle (6R0 612 405)
d) adjustment of interior lighting, without manual headlight leveling (6Q0 941 334)

LED Headlights. Wiring.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x2piv7 ... sp=sharing
Note
You should pay special attention to the position of the terminals on the connectors because it is not exactly the same as for Bixenon headlights.

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In the link to the firegrafik thread indicated by iichel you have to take into account that he has a POLO SEDAN so the parts indicated for the AFS are not the same.

Attention:
Nobody, I repeat nobody

, has been able to clarify if the parameterization (TinyQ) for the AFS unit for POLO SEDAN LED headlights is the same as for POLO 6R LED headlights.
I'm afraid it won't be the same parameterization.

However, if you buy the AFS unit with the PR code from the VW dealer, you will not have to parameterize it.
POLO 6R:
6R0907357C Z09 ... with ESP
6R0907357C Z0E ... with ABS (your case)

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About your concern about the engine (CGGB), and as I already told you, you need an updated version of VCDS... 'ORIGINAL'. (everything can not be cheap or free

)

However, you can read the engine by selecting 6R instead of CAN automatic detection when you make an autoscan.
It is possible that even in this way your engine is also not reached (your engine is a little out of date compared to the new BCM 7E0).

dcgumis · Post by **dcgumis** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:49 pm

Thank you iichel ,ciclo

Can I buy wiring like this?

https://www.carsystems.eu/wiring-for-au ... id923.html
https://www.ebay.pl/itm/VW-Polo-6R-ALWR ... XQH-pRB9yg
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Kufate ... Sw8f9brN~n
slowly collecting parts

Post by **iichel** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:13 pm

Yes, for ALWR, I bought the wiring from eBay. For LED headlights, I'd recommend to make your own wiring (a lot cheaper)

dcgumis · Post by **dcgumis** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:03 pm

Hi

, today I installed FULL LED lamps from the iichel scheme, parking lights, but DRLs do not work. The left light turns off after a while. Low and high beam work, long blinking also works.
In position 0, the low beam light up.
In the "Auto" position the low beam light up.
In position 3 it is not light up.
In position 4 the low beam does not light up.

Thanks for your help

LED stekker links
1 - AFS
2 - AFS
3 - AFS
4 - AFS
5 - Massa - Halogeen pin 5
6 - Dimlicht - Halogeen pin 6
7 - Massa - Halogeen pin 5
8 - Plus die van de hoogteregeling kwam - Stap 5!
9 - Knipperlicht - Halogeen pin 9
10 - LED module - T73b/5
11 - Groot licht - Halogeen pin 8
12 - LED module - T73b/3 - Deze zit evt al bij de DRL in de bumper!
13 - leeg
14 - LED module - T73b/28

LED stekker rechts
1 - AFS
2 - AFS
3 - AFS
4 - AFS
5 - Massa - Halogeen pin 5
6 - Dimlicht - Halogeen pin 6
7 - Massa - Halogeen pin 5
8 - Plus die van de hoogteregeling kwam - Stap 5!
9 - Knipperlicht - Halogeen pin 9
10 - LED module - T73b/6
11 - Groot licht - Halogeen pin 8
12 - LED module - T73a/5 - Deze zit evt al bij de DRL in de bumper!
13 - leeg
14 - LED module - T73b/56

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Friday,27,March,2020,19:24:31:05031
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZ

Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)

Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 56



VIN: Mileage: 172340km-107087miles



01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

 
 

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Address 01: Engine

Cannot be reached



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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None

   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AC    HW: 6R0 907 379 AC

   Component: ABS8.2 front  H04 0001  

   Revision: --------    

   Coding: 200228E3016F00B2042C14E280D800000200

   Shop #: WSC 02069 123 12345

   VCID: 7F0A9BD3EAEEDBC624-802A



No fault code found.



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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb

   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 A    HW: 6R0 820 045 A

   Component: Climatic       23 0500  

   Revision: 00 09 23    

   VCID: 2C509C9F4F18905ED1-8078



1 Fault Found:

16372 - Control Module; Unspecified Internal Error 

            014 - Defective

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01101110

                    Fault Priority: 1

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 255

                    Mileage: 2234 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2020.01.11

                    Time: 17:45:52





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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None

   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 

   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0736  

   Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 014162029

   Coding: 3DB02BB828F3240092380090BC2B1CD01BC0610F60802049200000030000

   Shop #: WSC 02737 022 00190

   VCID: 68D8208F9B607C7EF5-803C



   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 H    HW: 6R0 959 801 H  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB

   Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 0803 

   Coding: 08BC30



   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 K    HW: 6R0 959 802 K  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB

   Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 0803 

   Coding: 08BC30



   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A

   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 

   Coding: 000000



   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 

   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H09 9002 

   Coding: 000000



   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A

   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 

   Coding: 000000



   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 

   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H04 0103 

   Coding: A4FFFF



   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 B    HW: 6R0 959 811 B

   Component: J388__TSG_HL  002 0803 

   Coding: 08BC32



   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 B    HW: 6R0 959 812 B

   Component: J389__TSG_HR  002 0803 

   Coding: 08BC32



3 Faults Found:

00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 

            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00101010

                    Fault Priority: 3

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 245

                    Mileage: 172344 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2020.03.27

                    Time: 01:52:10



00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 

            010 - Open or Short to Plus

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01101010

                    Fault Priority: 3

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 205

                    Mileage: 172344 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2020.03.27

                    Time: 01:52:10



01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 

            000 -  - 

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01100000

                    Fault Priority: 6

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 205

                    Mileage: 172344 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2020.03.27

                    Time: 01:51:07





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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb

   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 C    HW: 6R0 959 655 C

   Component: VW10Airbag005 H09 0018  

   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003DW003YHK-

   Coding: 003035

   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190

   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaWV10BPAVW250 A01001

   ROD: N/A

   VCID: 428CD227D59C762E0B-8016



   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3572SRB40000911C8A98



   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3582SRB4000091185980



   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3516GRB401V9F7IH9SA3



   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3526GRB40219F7IH1K1-



No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbaWV10BPAVW250" (VW25) 

No fault code found.



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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb

   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 B    HW: 6R0 920 870 B

   Component: KOMBI         H05 0607  

   Serial number: 00000000000000

   Coding: 140A00

   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255

   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716

   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod

   VCID: 346084FF9F28C89E89-8060



No fault code found.



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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None

   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 

   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0736  

   Revision: B9080001    

   Coding: 002200

   Shop #: WSC 02737 022 00190

   VCID: 68D8208F9B607C7EF5-803C



1 Fault Found:

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 

            000 -  -  - Intermittent

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00100000

                    Fault Priority: 2

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 255

                    Mileage: 172344 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2020.03.27

                    Time: 01:50:41





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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb

   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 

   Component: IMMO          H05 0607  

   Serial number:               

   Coding: 000000

   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_DUS_VDD_RM09 A03709

   ROD: N/A

   VCID: 6ADC5A878D6C4E6EE3-803E



No ASAM data for: "EV_Immo_DUS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *) 

No fault code found.



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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb

   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R

   Component: RNS-MID       H24 6276  

   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7S0418589

   Coding: 00010000010000A00000

   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

   VCID: 3D76A1DBA46209D676-8068



   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 C

   Component: EU East V15  8522 



No fault code found.



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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb

   Part No: 6R0 423 156 A

   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V275  

   Coding: 10150

   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   VCID: 2E549697ED04E24EFF-807A



No fault code found.



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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb

   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R

   Component: RNS-MID       H24 6276  

   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7S0418589

   Coding: 00010000010000A00000

   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

   VCID: 3D76A1DBA46209D676-8068



   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 C

   Component: EU East V15  8522 



No fault code found.



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Post by **iichel** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:23 pm

Please try this coding for your BCM
3DB02BB828F3240092380090BC2B1CD01BC0660F60813041200000030000

dcgumis · Post by **dcgumis** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:49 am

iichel wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:23 pm Please try this coding for your BCM
3DB02BB828F3240092380090BC2B1CD01BC0660F60813041200000030000

Hello
Thank you iichel! works: D

Is it possible to turn off the lamp when using a turn signal?DRL?

Position 0 DRL OK
DRL item OK
Position 3 OK
Position 4 OK

The left lamp switches on with the passing beam delay.I'll see in the evening how dark it will be

The headlamp washer fuse SB 46 must be connected to the existing fuse SB 46 (20A) ?
Thank you for your help

Post by **iichel** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:28 am

This coding will make the DRL go off with indiator on
3DB02BB828F3240092380090BC2B1CD01BC0660F608130C1200000030000

Yes, correct about the headlamp washer. It can be connected to SB46 (existing for horn). Perfect OEM installation.

dcgumis · Post by **dcgumis** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:35 pm

iichel wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:28 am This coding will make the DRL go off with indiator on
3DB02BB828F3240092380090BC2B1CD01BC0660F608130C1200000030000

Yes, correct about the headlamp washer. It can be connected to SB46 (existing for horn). Perfect OEM installation.

thank you iichel works

I have a problem with blinking long lights in position 1.2.3 - when I blink with traffic lights, the left lamp does not blink, in position 4 the blinking with long lights works but the right dipped beam lamp switches on and off alternately.
right lamp - low beam switched on, the lights turn on and off
Video
https://youtu.be/DgP13nU0tB8

I also connected the headlamp washers

Thank you for your help

dcgumis · Post by **dcgumis** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:05 pm

Today I took a closer look at my problem with lights.
My BCM coding
3DB02BB828F3240092380090BC2B1CD01BC0660F60813041200000030000
DRL-OK
Parking light-OK
Low Beam -the left lamp turn on 1 second later than the right.The right lamp flashes two three times. This also happens while driving. Once in a while
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve5KxfEkD6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdEjUeVcnq8
High Beam= in position 4 OK

I also have a problem with blinking long traffic lights stallks.In the DRL position, Parking light-Long blinking works only on the right side:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXwFZwxO6LQ

Parking light and pulling the stalks into high beam and switching to the passing beam the left lamp turns on immediately. No delay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu6icGTrR90

When coding
3DB02BB828F3240092380090BC2B1CD01BC0660F608130C1200000030000
the same as above, but the right lamp flashes more often

Is this a broken light module 7PP941571AE?Tomorrow I will change headlight electronics power module - from left to right and from right to left

Post by **iichel** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:27 pm

No it has nothing to do with the change in coding I provided. Perhaps you can code byte 18 differently to 66/73

Post by **ciclo** » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:36 am

There is only one correct BCM coding for LED headlights that are factory installed.
This BCM coding depends entirely on the installation of the wiring, which must be in the same way as from factory... of the following components ... the fuse box, stalks, dimmer (if), BCM, headlights (modules) and AFS.

For a better understanding:
With BCM Max, there is two possible wiring installations.
- BCM Max until 2014 (7H0 except D)
- BCM Max from 2015 onwards (7E0). ...required for LED headlights...

Example:
- My 6R with Bixenon headlights and retrofitted automatic lights (7H0 wiring installation).
- My 6R with Bi+AL+ HBA (7E0 wiring installation).

Note: It is possible to make an electrical installation type 7H0 with a BCM Max 7E0 installed (which is more cheap and easy), but this type of wiring installation is not indicated for LED headlights.

BTW, I have yet to see anyone in the world who has retrofitted the LED headlights into a 6R with the correct BCM coding. Yes, yes... they work, but they don't have the correct BCM coding.
The first BCM codings for LED headlights on the 6R family PQ25 were seen online thanks to my good India friends.

I do not know what are the reasons why the LED headlights that have been retrofitted in the 6R have these problems shown in the videos, (many people report these problems), as you all know, I dont have LED headligths and I have not been able to study these problems with LED headlights in detail (in the real world), so I cannot provide correct coding depending on the installed wiring.
My recommendation is to ask for help from all those who retrofitted LED headlamps in the 6R family and solved all these reported problems.

dcgumis · Post by **dcgumis** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:45 am

Hello

I was able to solve the problem with the flashing light

The module turned out to be a problem 7PP941571AE It probably had a different value than 7PP941571AE (Z01)

I bought a used module extracted directly from the lamp
FULL LED polo 6c

Waiting for one more module for the left lamp

thank you for all your help

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