SEL 1.0 TSI 95PS or 110PS?

[ledwardz]

Thanks again.

So he has 2 x 95 SEL on site, one of them with the virtual cockpit. He says he will check what is in the pipeline for the 110 when he is in the office tomorrow.

A factory order is 22 weeks so I have well and truely messed that up.

You can configure the SEL with a detachable or permanent tow bar on VW website so think it is okay.

I'll make sure I get the service pack before its registered. As it has 0 miles I assume it won't have been registered.

Another perhaps stupid question. Will the car get a 2021 number plate? Would i be better off waiting for the 2021 model of the car to be released otherwise the car already looks a year old? Is there actually any difference between the 2017-2020 models (they all look the same).

Perhaps I just go second hand for the time being if I can't get the spec i want. No idea any more.

[SRGTD]

Another perhaps stupid question. Will the car get a 2021 number plate? Would i be better off waiting for the 2021 model of the car to be released otherwise the car already looks a year old? Is there actually any difference between the 2017-2020 models (they all look the same).

Perhaps I just go second hand for the time being if I can't get the spec i want. No idea any more.

The registration plate identifier changes in March and September, so a new car that’s registered during the period 01/09/2020 - 28/02/2021 would be a ‘70’ plate. You’d need to delay the car being registered until 01/03/2021 for it to have a ‘21’ plate. In terms of model year changes - I don’t think there have been any significant changes to the standard spec on the SEL model. I suppose the most significant changes to the current Polo model range since it was introduced have been;
- the lead-in base model ‘S’ and the SE model are no longer produced.
- Two new models - the ‘Match’ and the ‘United’ have been added to the model line up.
- The GTI and GTI+ models are currently not being built for the UK market.

The changes for the 2021 model year as reported on www.polodriver.com website were;

• 2021 model cars will be ‘wearing’ the new style VW emblem on the front grille, hatch badge/handle, and presumably wheel centre caps and steering wheel.

• Repositioning of the ‘Polo’ badge on the tailgate below the VW hatch handle (as per the mk8 Golf).

• New interior and exterior ‘treatment‘ (whatever that means) for the Polo Beats model.

• SEL available with 1.0 93bhp / 95ps engine.

• Wireless Apply CarPlay.

• Addition of an emergency call service feature.

• Cleaner RDE2 compliant engines to be introduced.

If you did decide to go for a nearly new used car, it has the advantage of immediate delivery and you may find a car close to your ideal spec. Under VW’s approved used programme you also get the following benefits;
- two free services
- two years warranty
- two years roadside assistance
- two years MOT cover.

However, you should bear in mind;

• the screen prices of many nearly new cars may actually be higher than the discounted prices you’ve been quoted for an equivalent brand new model.

• the PCP APR under VW’s approved used scheme is significantly higher (8.9%) than it is for new cars (currently 4.9% if buying a new Polo).

• there is currently no VW finance deposit contribution under the approved used scheme (it’s currently £1,500 on a new Polo).

• Dealers are generally much less willing to discount the screen price on a used car than they are to discount the list price on a new car; any discount on a used car price is likely to be a few hundred pounds at most.

So a nearly new used Polo could end up being quite a bit more expensive to buy than a new one.

[Simonz]

I would go for the 110ps not worth the hassle of gambling on the 95 and finding it falls short. Little difference in economy, especially if you have to drive the 95ps one harder to compensate. Economy generally good as long as you drive gently, plenty of turbo use gets through petrol and MPG drops from 60 to low 40's.

[Andy Beats]

If the 95PS is considerably cheaper, then it's cheap and easy to fit a tuning box or remap to make it 110bhp or even more.
I bought one for my 95PS, it came highly recommended from a German TUV-approved tuning company, but I bought the Gti before fitting it and it's still in the box.

[Andy Beats]

I would go for the 110ps not worth the hassle of gambling on the 95 and finding it falls short. Little difference in economy, especially if you have to drive the 95ps one harder to compensate. Economy generally good as long as you drive gently, plenty of turbo use gets through petrol and MPG drops from 60 to low 40's.

Only very gentle, IMO excessively gentle, throttle got me anywhere near 60mpg in my 95PS.
And hard throttle use got well under 30mpg.
Somewhere in between got me low 40mpg.
I do have to negotiate hills in my driving though, I can only assume you maybe stay somewhere flat.

[stevereeves]

Like others I'll say go for the 110 version if available if you know you could be towing a trailer, if not new then 'an approved used' you may be able to pick a up a recent low miles car if not over-fussy about colour or other options. And I'd get DSG if you think you will like it, I tried it on the road but once in my uncle's (prev model) Polo as I was amazaed at how smoothly the car intilally took off and then silky, seemless gear changes. No manual clutch pedal, obviously, you could lieraly sit on your left foot if you wished and let the car take care of everything - that said DSG is not for me. Why, well I once lived in a 'not so great neighbourhood' though car crime is pretty much unknown in currrent address (touch wood) but old habits die hard and I have a local authority / council garage and need to position my car (Golf) literally inch-perfect with room to get out and close the door, I've tried a prev & current Polo and it isn't a lot easier. I admit I'm not over-confident of such precision with a DSG box over manual, yes I have tried one in my tight garage, but folk with a maybe with a bigger parking space, decent sized garage (and, face it - less pranoid) will find a DSG perfecly ok. So, yeah I'd probably go for a 110 with DSG. Good luck....

[Andy Beats]

Like others I'll say go for the 110 version if available if you know you could be towing a trailer, if not new then 'an approved used' you may be able to pick a up a recent low miles car if not over-fussy about colour or other options. And I'd get DSG if you think you will like it, I tried it on the road but once in my uncle's (prev model) Polo as I was amazaed at how smoothly the car intilally took off and then silky, seemless gear changes. No manual clutch pedal, obviously, you could lieraly sit on your left foot if you wished and let the car take care of everything - that said DSG is not for me. Why, well I once lived in a 'not so great neighbourhood' though car crime is pretty much unknown in currrent address (touch wood) but old habits die hard and I have a local authority / council garage and need to position my car (Golf) literally inch-perfect with room to get out and close the door, I've tried a prev & current Polo and it isn't a lot easier. I admit I'm not over-confident of such precision with a DSG box over manual, yes I have tried one in my tight garage, but folk with a maybe with a bigger parking space, decent sized garage (and, face it - less pranoid) will find a DSG perfecly ok. So, yeah I'd probably go for a 110 with DSG. Good luck....

You're right not to trust DSG where precision is needed.
I like to park nose into my garage doors, pretty tight close to them - if I drive in and go tight to the door at that point, easy enough.
But if I move the car back on the drive for any reason and then want to move a few inches closer to the garage door later on, it can be quite hair-raising and 100% it's easier in a manual.
Maybe not helped by my drive being on a slope, but still.

[SRGTD]

Like others I'll say go for the 110 version if available if you know you could be towing a trailer, if not new then 'an approved used' you may be able to pick a up a recent low miles car if not over-fussy about colour or other options. And I'd get DSG if you think you will like it, I tried it on the road but once in my uncle's (prev model) Polo as I was amazaed at how smoothly the car intilally took off and then silky, seemless gear changes. No manual clutch pedal, obviously, you could lieraly sit on your left foot if you wished and let the car take care of everything - that said DSG is not for me. Why, well I once lived in a 'not so great neighbourhood' though car crime is pretty much unknown in currrent address (touch wood) but old habits die hard and I have a local authority / council garage and need to position my car (Golf) literally inch-perfect with room to get out and close the door, I've tried a prev & current Polo and it isn't a lot easier. I admit I'm not over-confident of such precision with a DSG box over manual, yes I have tried one in my tight garage, but folk with a maybe with a bigger parking space, decent sized garage (and, face it - less pranoid) will find a DSG perfecly ok. So, yeah I'd probably go for a 110 with DSG. Good luck....

You're right not to trust DSG where precision is needed.
I like to park nose into my garage doors, pretty tight close to them - if I drive in and go tight to the door at that point, easy enough.
But if I move the car back on the drive for any reason and then want to move a few inches closer to the garage door later on, it can be quite hair-raising and 100% it's easier in a manual.
Maybe not helped by my drive being on a slop, but still.

I park in my (small) garage and had a few hair raising moments during the first few weeks of ownership getting my GTI+ in and out of my garage. Agree that a manual is so much easier for precision parking where you can be in complete control.

[stevereeves]

THIS is what I'm talking about, at the front it's literally one inch to disaster, and yes, I DO have to breath in. Garage mods include: (unseen) strips of carpet glued to right side and end walls, bubble wrapped wrapped (!) on inside of up 'n' over door in case I let hatch open fully and (can be seen on back wall) white wood filling 3inch gap on top of all 3 walls to prevent cats & other creatures gaining entry and leaving their 'calling card' on 'splash guard' at front of engine bay, it was the only thing that worked....

[Simonz]

THIS is what I'm talking about, at the front it's literally one inch to disaster, and yes, I DO have to breath in. Garage mods include: (unseen) strips of carpet glued to right side and end walls, bubble wrapped wrapped (!) on inside of up 'n' over door in case I let hatch open fully and (can be seen on back wall) white wood filling 3inch gap on top of all 3 walls to prevent cats & other creatures gaining entry and leaving their 'calling card' on 'splash guard' at front of engine bay, it was the only thing that worked....

A legacy from when garages were built for Minis and Vauxhall Vivas...

[Andy Beats]

A legacy from when garages were built for Minis and Vauxhall Vivas...

Are more modern garages any better?
Our house was built around 2000, the length is fine but the width is shocking and even getting out of our daughter's Fiat 500 was difficult.
It reminds me of an aunt who built an extension to be used specifically as a snooker room, but didn't take any account of having to pull the cues back.....

[Simonz]

A legacy from when garages were built for Minis and Vauxhall Vivas...

Are more modern garages any better?
Our house was built around 2000, the length is fine but the width is shocking and even getting out of our daughter's Fiat 500 was difficult.
It reminds me of an aunt who built an extension to be used specifically as a snooker room, but didn't take any account of having to pull the cues back.....

nice one! Extendable cues required...

Yes I expect even new developers scrimp on dimensions just enough to say it's a garage, similar to dethatched houses which are a few inches apart. Ideally a double garage is a minimum plenty of space to get round the car and do things.

[Andy Beats]

Ideally a double garage is a minimum plenty of space to get round the car and do things.

We've got a double garage, but 2/3 of it is a supporting wall down the middle.
If I had the dough/energy I'd see about replacing it with a beam instead and make it nice and roomy.
I'd still not use it for cars though, I can't be bothered with the palavor.
One side is motorbike, one side is crap.

[SRGTD]

Ideally a double garage is a minimum plenty of space to get round the car and do things.

We've got a double garage, but 2/3 of it is a supporting wall down the middle.
If I had the dough/energy I'd see about replacing it with a beam instead and make it nice and roomy.
I'd still not use it for cars though, I can't be bothered with the palavor.
One side is motorbike, one side is crap.

I’ve always garaged my car - I consider it less of a palaver garaging the car than having to de-ice it during the winter months, or the car getting smothered in cherry tree blossom, pollen and other tree-related crap from one neighbour’s trees in the spring time, or having to continually scoop leaves out of the scuttle panel from another neighbour’s large trees during the autumn.

Back on topic.........I wonder what the OP has decided? 95ps or 110ps? Finding a nearly new example or getting a new car?

[vc-10]

I parked my Ibiza next to a Mk.1 Golf the other week. The Golf looked so tiny!