Reversing bumper camera - thoughts?

[lebjos]

Hi all,

I've got a 2016 6C that I'd like to have a camera installed on. I called a couple of different companies and both said the same thing - that they couldn't fit the emblem camera and only the one that goes on the bumper/above the number plate, and both companies are around £550.

Has anyone had a bumper camera installed? My main concern is that it is quite close to the ground, so on rainy days it might just become completely obscured. I've read that Rain-X spray could be a solution, but I don't know how effective this is... And sourcing rear mudguards at an affordable price seems impossible! Does anyone have any experience?

[2226]

If they say it can't be done, they mean they don't know how.

From my research, the Golf Mk7 emblem camera will work. Either low-line or high-line (CANbus to send the tailgate open signal, etc).
Can be found on aliexpress. A lot of VW parts on there are actual VW parts since they're made over there in China.
There are quite a number on there. I haven't picked one up yet because of funds, etc.

The high-line would connect into the infotainment CANbus wires of the head unit along with the video feed to the infotainment headunit connector.
Then it's a matter of coding/adaptions to enable it.

There is also a fitment ring which will be needed to install on the 6R/6C.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000904060028.html

Sorry that it's minimal information.

I also had no interest in the bumper-attached camera, but it is usually the easiest option.
Just that my number plate in winter does see a whole lot of road junk too.

[lebjos]

If they say it can't be done, they mean they don't know how.

From my research, the Golf Mk7 emblem camera will work. Either low-line or high-line (CANbus to send the tailgate open signal, etc).
Can be found on aliexpress. A lot of VW parts on there are actual VW parts since they're made over there in China.
There are quite a number on there. I haven't picked one up yet because of funds, etc.

The high-line would connect into the infotainment CANbus wires of the head unit along with the video feed to the infotainment headunit connector.
Then it's a matter of coding/adaptions to enable it.

There is also a fitment ring which will be needed to install on the 6R/6C.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000904060028.html

Sorry that it's minimal information.

I also had no interest in the bumper-attached camera, but it is usually the easiest option.
Just that my number plate in winter does see a whole lot of road junk too.

It can be done, but would require a new compatible head unit which is further expense, and just becomes uneconomical at that point.

[2226]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006265443012.html

Which headunit do you have?
Surely that low-line Polo unit will work.

[Mikeso51]

Interesting thread because I would also be interested in installing a logo rvc on my wife’s Blue GT 6C. I was not interested in the bumper mounted camera because the rear of the car gets filthy driving on the muddy country lanes where I live, and keeping the camera lens clear would be real problem.

My research a while back led me to believe that the fundamental problem is that my car is not fitted with a BCM which is compatible with the logo camera. Since I didn’t want the hassle associated with changing the BCM, the project stalled.

If anyone has better info. then I would be very interested in hearing from them.

[2226]

Someone who has done this will have to provide the details since my information is from a fact gathering mission I did when I considered doing this.
The idea is shelved for now until I have funds again. Life is just too expensive on all fronts these days.

There is the low-line and high-line versions.
The ones for Polo are usually the low-line versions.

Low-line probably simplest.
It will have a video feed to the infotainment unit. There should be pins on the quadlock to accept this.
It needs a power feed when reverse is engaged. This is often done by splicing into the power feed to the reverse lights. I think they usually employ a relay here as there was some sort of weird operation when connecting direct to the reverse light power feed (PWM feed maybe?), but that might be a Golf mk7 issue.
Then some coding to enable the reverse camera in the infotainment unit.

The high-line version connects to the infotainment canbus.
That is picked up off the infotainment head unit quadlock connector. Canbus is star network so you just splice in.
Video feed from the camera goes to similar pin on the quadlock.
I believe the canbus signals would communicate steering angle, etc, so that it does those dynamic lines.
I do recall something about a signal for the latch opening that is fed from the unit back to the canbus, but I can't recall now if the camera connects to both infotainment canbus and the regular canbus.

At no point do I recall it being connected to the BCM. But this might be where I am lacking information and might be well off track.

[ciclo]

Interesting thread because I would also be interested in installing a logo rvc on my wife’s Blue GT 6C. I was not interested in the bumper mounted camera because the rear of the car gets filthy driving on the muddy country lanes where I live, and keeping the camera lens clear would be real problem.

My research a while back led me to believe that the fundamental problem is that my car is not fitted with a BCM which is compatible with the logo camera. Since I didn’t want the hassle associated with changing the BCM, the project stalled.

If anyone has better info. then I would be very interested in hearing from them.

What led you to believe that your GT 6C's BCM isn't compatible with the logo camera? Where did you get this idea/conclusion?
You should check the reference/part number of your radio or infotainment unit on ETKA to see if it is RVC compatible (Pr codes = KA1 or KA2 = OK).

For RVC_Emblem 'OEM', I think there are slightly cheaper options than those already mentioned.

hmm... if you provide more information or some related photos, perhaps someone can guide you towards the path of happiness... for this matter.

[ciclo]

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[Ricmondo]

My BGT has used the bumper camera since new (2016). I’ve driven through all sorts of weather and it has never become obscured, I’ve never specifically washed the camera either, if it’s lucky it might get included in a general car wash. I love the concept of the emblem camera but is it worth the hassle, just one more thing to go wrong.

After market kit that looks through the rear screen works too but with reversing cameras the lower the viewpoint the better they work as there are fewer parallax errors.

[ciclo]

I could totally agree with you as long as the RVC is OEM or of decent quality on the lens. The cheap ones that cost 10 pounds, euros, or dollars are perfectly calibrated from the factory to never have normal parallax.

The RVC on the emblem and for example a shark fin radio antenna won't be stolen.
Well, an RVC in the bumper and a radio rod antenna are relatively cheap and you can buy many of them if they are stolen, but the problem is the destruction that the very intelligent lovers of other people's property cause to the rest of the parts when they steal them.

On the other hand, I suppose there's a reason submarines don't have the periscope on the outside.
I have a "good friend" who has the RVC installed on his bumper, and whenever I get the chance, I stick a piece of electrical tape on his lens...


Just thoughts.

[Tinman]

I've installed 2gd837469 highline emblem camera in my 3 door polo 6c. The emblem camera comes with the new style vw logo but it didnt matter as im using my own vw logo.

You need a compatible infotainment unit than support highline camera. There are 7 wires need to be connect:

2 CAN, 2 Videofeed to the quadlock connector of the infotainment unit

1 power wire which ive directly connect to the fuse box at the location assigned to reverse camera. You need T30 power source else you wouldnt able to open the boot

2 wires connect to the latch connector ( the connector that was connected to the emblem handle.

Once all wire has been connected, you would need to code it. My emblem camera come pre-parameterized, i find the default setting to be resonable good. You would need to calibrate the camera if you want to remove the non critical fault code. You would never be able to get perfect calibration as the polo doesn't offical support highline camera.

You also need to connect the drain hose, there is no need to drill hole in the tailgate for the drain hose, there exists two covered drain hole (its there in my polo), you just need to buy a longer hose to reach either of those drain holes.

[ciclo]

Thanks for such detailed information.

Have you tried calibrating the camera with ODIS S and the VAS 6350 calibration panel using the Passat dataset/parameters?
It may be possible to achieve a perfect calibration for the Polo 6R/6C.
Tip:
Avoid any light/sun reflections on the calibration panel.

Note:
Calibration is only required for diagnostics on RVC Highline.

[Tinman]

Hi, I've get my lazy self to finally calibrate the rear view camera. Camera calibration was done in ODIS-S using VAS 6350 template I've brought with the camera from Aliexpress. My camera was pre-parameterized and long code as follows

Longcode: 0184010162002017000040







From ODIS-S, I have manually set the vehicle to 2015 VW Passat B8 Saloon. To calibrate the camera, 3 values is needed:

1. Hight from the camera to ground. I've measured to be 850mm

2 . Distance to the centre of rear axis to calibrate board. I've mine at 1200mm but if your enter this value calibration fail. Im guessing you'll need to cater for the horizontal distance between centre of rear axis and camera or end of back of car. I don't have a Passat Handy so I've obtain the require measurement from the web (got a value of 1103mm from rear axis to back of car). I've measured my rear axis to back of car to be 690mm. The difference of 413mm is added to 1200mm to obtain the value of 1613mm which is the value I've enter. I'm guessing the optimal value is somewhere between 1200mm and 1613mm.

3. Height of calibration board to ground. Its set at 1mm

Calibration success, no more log failure error on rear view camera.

Longcode 0162000142000015000040







Distance to the red line is about 40cm and the distance to the second green line is about 200cm

[ciclo]

Great! There's nothing better than doing it yourself to accurately calculate and know the distances displayed on the screen.
erWin also explains how to calibrate the RVC.


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[ciclo]

It looks much better now. Good job!