6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Buci wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:17 pm
iichel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:17 am yes, go to bcm, measurement values, type 'cruise' and tick the four boxes related to cruise control.
Ok but what rhen? After I tick them? Which value is the buttons on the lever are working? Or which are that the bittons are not worikimg?
You will see the value change when you press the button. Meaning that the button is working.

Ether it displays ON, or operated if my memory serves me well.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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main switch is on/off
the cancel, set and resume buttons are operated/non operated
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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ciclo wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:41 pm After checking the boxes, 'press the CCS buttons' and you'll see if the values change.
If there is change in the values, it is because they work (logically) ... it's just using your/a basic logic.

I seem to remember that you can check the values on both the engine unit and the BCM unit.
If they work but the CCS doesn't, it's because the wire going to the ECU (engine) is incorrectly installed.

Autoscan. :?:

UDS Measuring Values:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNzkVqlk1S4
i checked meas.: values on the css lever. everthing seems ok. they are changing when i press them: to on to off , not operated to operated etc-
here is the autoscan to see the error.

Saturday,26,July,2025,13:25:33:16365
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 23.3.1.0 HEX-V2 CB: 0.4631.4
Data version: 20230421 DS346.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY109953 License Plate:
Mileage: 146420km-90981mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY109953 Mileage: 146420km-90981miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CGPA) Labels:. 03E-906-019-CGP.clb
Part No SW: 03E 906 019 B HW: 03E 906 019 B
Component: SIMOS11.1 H03 9490
Revision: --H03--- Serial number: CVN: 27CC6ECF
Coding: 00110016002400080000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12MPI02103E906019B 001009
ROD: EV_ECM12MPI02103E906019AA.rod
VCID: 2313EF918B5606C2329-8076
VINID: 9E69EAAAA1A2A93A410092450C8A8B5A7A

1 Fault Found:
6118 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
P0568 00 [044] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 145703 km
Date: 2025.06.19
Time: 20:41:43

Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 29 °C
Intake air temperature: 33 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.882 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Time since engine start: 0 s
Engine torque: 113.03125 Nm
Accelerator pedal travel-Accelerator position: 0.00 %
Ignition angle of current cylinder: actual value-Ignition angle: actual: 0.000 °

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AB.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 F HW: 6R0 820 045 F
Component: Man AC 02 0101
Revision: 0002S 02
VCID: 313F15D9C12AA452B05-8064

1 Fault Found:
00706 - Relay for Coolant Fan; Stage 2 (J513)
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 84
Reset counter: 128
Mileage: 145703 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2024.01.24
Time: 20:42:34


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K HW: 6R0 937 087
Component: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0254
Revision: BF046001 Serial number: 0434 335110547
Coding: 6CB02DBF08A10040002008002D2B0C9000C0410F60060000200000000000
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 45D7510965A218F27CD-8010

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB HW: 6R0 959 801 AB Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 008 1621
Serial number: KU0KU026091100011918
Coding: 08BC30

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD HW: 6R0 959 802 AD Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 008 1621
Serial number: KU0KU029091100011897
Coding: 08BC30

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag01K H09 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX00WFFPA Dataset Number: v00305656R0 0001
Coding: 00314B
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 4ACD62354C3CF78A91F-801E

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575HRB405D0OCUI117I

Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Serial number: 3585HRB404V0OPMGF98J

Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
Serial number: 3515RRB405F0NS9Q6GIE

Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
Serial number: 3525RRB40630NI3IA02

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 G HW: 6R0 920 860 G
Component: KOMBI H04 0206
Serial number: 00000009074470
Coding: 140A00
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25 A01015
ROD: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25_A01.rod
VCID: 382928FD22D0751AF7B-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 6R0 937 087
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0254
Revision: BF046001
Coding: 002000
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 70B9D0DD0AA0ED5AFFB-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J285) Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 G HW: 6R0 920 860 G
Component: IMMO H04 0014
Serial number:
ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmobUDSJCIPQ25 A01001
ROD: EV_ImmobUDSJCIPQ25.rod
VCID: 382928FD22D0751AF7B-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 56: Radio Labels: None
Part No SW: 3TD 035 156 HW: 3TD 035 156
Component: RadioSK46MID 006 0010
Coding: 0100042404104B
Shop #: WSC 00078 790 00000
VCID: 7F5B03E147FE8222761-802A

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:25, VBatt start/end: 13.8V/13.7V)-----------
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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P0568 is almost always the wire between the stalks and the engine ECU, check that one again.
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iichel wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:36 pm P0568 is almost always the wire between the stalks and the engine ECU, check that one again.
I checkeg the pins in the ECU. It seems that my friend electrician used rhe wrong pin. Also I pulled the wire out without any tool. Can you tell me is there a right orientation when I insert the pin? How will I know if it "clicked" in the hole the right way?
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iichel wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:36 pm P0568 is almost always the wire between the stalks and the engine ECU, check that one again.
I checkeg the pins in the ECU. It seems that my friend electrician used rhe wrong pin. Also I pulled the wire out without any tool. Can you tell me is there a right orientation when I insert the pin? How will I know if it "clicked" in the hole the right way?
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Take a close-up photo of the connector's contact-terminal holes. I think you should figure this out yourself by looking at the wires/terminals in other holes along that same line.🤷‍♂️
Before inserting the terminal, you must move or remove the pink/purple terminal locking mechanism.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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ciclo wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:42 pm Take a close-up photo of the connector's contact-terminal holes. I think you should figure this out yourself by looking at the wires/terminals in other holes along that same line.🤷‍♂️
Before inserting the terminal, you must move or remove the pink/purple terminal locking mechanism.
Ok. Thanks. If I insert it the wrong way I will be able to pull it out again? I do not have the tool (that needle or something) to pull it out again. I mean if I insert it the right way I will not be able to pull it again without the tool?
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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If you look at the connector from the ecu side you will know how to turn the pin. ( the locking part) goes toward the little hole for the removal tool.
The ccs pin is 9-th pin in the row.
viewtopic.php?t=79786&start=30
maybe look at my post there is a pic. its right next to the purplegreen wire
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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If the contact terminal is stuck, you'll need terminal removal tools and a watchmaker's mentality... or someone experienced enough to extract the contact terminal that's digging deeper into the plastic if you pull the wire harder.

For this connector, the small and very affordable tools sold on AliExpress are perfect.👌
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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amer6R wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:24 pm If you look at the connector from the ecu side you will know how to turn the pin. ( the locking part) goes toward the little hole for the removal tool.
The ccs pin is 9-th pin in the row.
viewtopic.php?t=79786&start=30
maybe look at my post there is a pic. its right next to the purplegreen wire
9-pin in the row? Sorry but my pin is 69. If the pins starts with 63 in that riow it is 7-pin in the row. Here on the forum I received the 69 pin info.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Buci wrote: Wed Aug 13, 2025 5:29 am
amer6R wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:24 pm If you look at the connector from the ecu side you will know how to turn the pin. ( the locking part) goes toward the little hole for the removal tool.
The ccs pin is 9-th pin in the row.
viewtopic.php?t=79786&start=30
maybe look at my post there is a pic. its right next to the purplegreen wire
9-pin in the row? Sorry but my pin is 69. If the pins starts with 63 in that riow it is 7-pin in the row. Here on the forum I received the 69 pin info.
Sorry i think i miss-read that your car was a diesel
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Yesssss. I did it. Thanks ciclo, iichel, amer etc.
It works. I have cruise control.
Only after ecu was disconected too long windows buttons wont go up or down with one long click. Is that calibration needed now and how to do it?
Also is there a forum topic here bow to install fog lights with daylight lights and a leather steering whell with audio buttons on the.left side.

Thanks.
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Congratulations!🎉
You need reset the Comfort function with the window buttons. It is explained in the Owner's Manual. If you don't have the owner's manual, look in my 6R thread in the post dedicated to installing folding mirrors.

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Now that you have a better appreciation for your 6R 'with CCS' 8) :
- In your case, it is possible to install front foglights with or without BCM control. DRLs without BCM control.
Your BCM supports SCLs for front foglights, but in this case, your 6R must be equipped with the G85 sensor (6R with ESP).
It is possible to install a G85 sensor on models without ESP.

You'll have to research and study it carefully due to the various possibilities.
Tip: if you want/need help, open a new thread with a new 'full' Autoscan and make all your questions there.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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amer6R wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:24 pm If you look at the connector from the ecu side you will know how to turn the pin. ( the locking part) goes toward the little hole for the removal tool.
The ccs pin is 9-th pin in the row.
https://www.oyostepper.de/category-6-b0 ... motor.html
maybe look at my post there is a pic. its right next to the purplegreen wire
Your post helped me, thank you.
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