POLO 6R. G85. Address 04 ❔

[ciclo]

POLO 6R. G85. Address 04. Mysteries/speculations.

erWin



40168 doesn't work.


Could the Gateway/BCM send data from this G85/(J527?) via CAN to the infotainment/comfort system?



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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
Part No SW: 1K8 919 472 C HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H03 0480
Revision: -------- Serial number: 39331426800051 Dataset Number: 160039v____ 0010
Coding: 0071155001
Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001007
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00_VW32.rod
VCID: 372BD6A04FCA6FD27F9-8062

1 Fault Found:
12718592 - Databus
U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
[Steuergerät für Lenksäulenelektronik-J527/BCM - mZAS_1 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 229
Mileage: 94716 km
Date: 2025.09.09.
Time: 08:11:17


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@MrCollayder, Robert, iichel, 'etc'...

[ciclo]

Some more information in point 2 of this dissertation: https://www.drive2.ru/l/660460418082277734/

I often prefer to read these approaches, arguments, ideas, and summaries rather than direct updates. Большое спасибо!!!

[ciclo]

Not Applied, I was diagnosing in an unsuitable place. I suppose it will also require the SA.

[patil]

I guess, the error in 1K8 OPS module is happening due to missing handshake the 1K8 module expects from Steering control unit address 16 which our cars don't have.
I've seen a autoscan in which 1K8919472C was retrofitted with address 16 present in GW list and no such error logged.
And also, I have heard that chinese version 1KD919472A doesn't log this error and everything works correctly(PQ25, CM/DM)

[ciclo]

Thanks for the additional info. Everything is clear and obvious.
The 1k8 unit also works fine, except it requests a signal from something that 'supposedly' doesn't exist.

The trick is to find out the SA of our G85 (identified in erWin as J527...?) to carry out our own investigations.
+15 signal via discrete wire or via CAN... with the translations, everything is open to 'interpretation' until more tangible and conclusive results are obtained.

[ciclo]

Google Translation:


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By the way, I think Google now uses AI for translations based on what it already knows. Translations haven't improved with this particular method; most of the time, the translation doesn't convey the intended meaning.
On the other hand, I observe that even people who know both languages ​​due to personal circumstances (native languages ​​or advanced language studies) don't know how to interpret correctly...
Undoubtedly, interlocutors of different languages ​​must allow for a wide tolerance/margin in understanding the contexts of what is being conveyed.
Then there's the problem of what each person has learned about meaning of anything within their own communication circles...

It takes many years to understand how dynamic languages ​​are. For example, English -or any other language- from three decades ago was easier to interpret and translate than English today. Nothing has changed, and there's nothing to worry about, it's simply that language usage undergoes slight or very subtle changes over 'time' and depending on 'where' it's used.

For me especially, since English is not my native language, and for everyone in general, it is a great fortune that in this magnificent forum there are English speakers from all over the world / all different places of the world.

[ciclo]

I guess, the error in 1K8 OPS module is happening due to missing handshake the 1K8 module expects from Steering control unit address 16 which our cars don't have.
I've seen a autoscan in which 1K8919472C was retrofitted with address 16 present in GW list and no such error logged.
And also, I have heard that chinese version 1KD919472A doesn't log this error and everything works correctly(PQ25, CM/DM)

It might seem obvious, but it would be interesting to have the software for that 1KD unit to compare it with the 1K8 unit's software... and doing tests without a scientific basis, that is, copying and pasting parts to isolate or find the responsible string/byte/bit... What do you think?

This is the only image I've been able to find of that 1KD unit.

From here: https://www.drive2.ru/l/567348001006158725/

I suppose someone should do it.

Since I'm making the jump from 8K (7X2) to 12K (7X5), I don't know if I'd get any positive results now.

[ciclo]

[ciclo]

The software is basically the same with subtle changes in two or three sectors, so it will be fairly easy to figure it out.


I suppose that for some (pq25) updating the firmware from 1K8 to 1KD will be the most reasonable thing to do.

[patil]

I can happily try flashing 1KD unit on my 1K8 unit and share the results if I can get the files. The 1KD unit is available for around 40€ in Chinese domestic market not on AliExpress.
I prefer using VCP than ODIS-E for flashing these units from past experience.
I think you can try 1K8919475B 12K unit for your 12K project, it is also available for sale.





Edit: corrected the mistake in part number. It's 1K8919475B not 1KD 919475B.
Apologies

[ciclo]

Great, then I'll send you the 1KD9192472A flash file to your email.
It may be necessary to get different data sets... however try the ones you already have available.

Thank you for your wisdom and considering my new 12K situation.

Summary:
You'll solve it for 8K and I'll solve it for 12K with the 1K 8/D 919475B solution... and 'everyone' HAPPY!

[amer6R]

360° camera system next ?

[ciclo]

The Area View 360º for a small utility vehicle like the 6R seems a bit excessive.
However, starting with larger compact vehicles like the Golf is a very good idea. Slavik: https://www.drive2.ru/l/709198195128804604/

OPS 360º 'without PLA' (Area 'Hear' 360º ...beep, beep, beep everywhere ) was something VW didn't offer as optional equipment, meaning something to be done/discovered.

Very basically, we can differentiate between two types of human beings: those whose brains are better developed for communication and those whose brains are better developed for calculating dimensions. It's something extraordinarily primitive, embedded in human genetics.

I honestly believe my Area Hear 360º will be of some use to that other driver of my 6R... Columns, walls, or turns on the opposite side from the driver's seat will no longer be a puzzle to solve... making her life easier.
Fortunately she doesn't read this forum.