polo 1.3cl video clip anyone...?

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All comments appreciated & respected :cry: :lol:

I do agree with some of you about not the best idea to film ity @ night... so it has just spurred me on the createw anotrher one after the car handles a little better & also in the daylight 8)

Thanx Revis... i know you had a better explanation before choosing to download it :wink:

Cheers.
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I have a vid on my other PC somewhere of a 1.3CL going off the clock! A hill is involved though...
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i attempted to do a vid using my fone, didn't work to well though!
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Damn, they dont work for me!

Nothing in low quality, just sound in high.

Damn Win Media Player!

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might depend on your drivers and stuff karl, also how fast your pc is (and i havent a clue on that)

old amd k6/2 400 of ours had terrible, awful trouble with anything over 320x240 in divx wayback...
...and right now ive got a sneaking suspicion my at-least-4-times-faster Duron 1600 is requiring a heimlich manoeuver to get the rest of the low quality version of the video out of it's gullet as it was seriously choking. Unless of course pete, you encoded it at 12 frames per second??
(all my video's currently playing thru winamp, which has an FPS readout)

I'd suspect the choking, because it feels like you're trotting gently around a car park insofar as i watched (a good couple minutes) but i saw flashes of the speedo needle up high enough for at least 45-50mph...!

Initial comment: for "low quality" it's still seriously far too high resolution - as above, it may not be too much trouble if you're on 1mb broadband (it's only... hey... 4 minutes sitting waiting?) but it might be too much for some people's CPUs.... MPG4 is high on storage efficiency but is FAR more demanding of chip cycles.
"DV-quality" footage is pretty much fit for broadcast seamlessly with studio-shot stuff, far greater than is required for t'internet, and in-car bez-around vids are not worthy of such clarity especially when space is the price. not that i think great clarity was acheived anyway - the image looked kinda blurry for 720x528, i think the codec had to work hard and over-smooth a lot of stuff so that it didnt go blocky (getting all that, at that rez, into 30mb is highly applaudable). I'd crop it a little and try again at around 352x256, 320x240, with less severe compression. Trust me, it'll still look alright, even at full screen.

In fact unless you're really bothered about getting your heated rear screen light, gearchanges and a lot of your hands in, could probably crop it down to widescreen, just get wheel, guages, and most of the windscreen, save a bit of bandwidth.

In any case cheers for sharing, it must have needed some effort at the very least to get the camera rigged up........... dedicated dubber! You know how to get the equipment set up properly and have a love for it, so the results could be special with better equipment. Even if you can only get out at night, have you considered using night-shot mode or tweaking the camera's exposure/shutter settings?

I'm off to load up virtualdub and see if my claims bear water, and to see what sound codec you're on (another great way to save, or waste, bytes :))

...... right now i was wanting to upload a couple little (rather badly shot themselves!) videos of my own but im having trouble figuring how to get my only ftp program (MS Web Publishing Wizard :shock:) to talk to groovy's server in such a way that it will create the much-needed new folder instead of just plonking my stuff in the root directory.


EDIT: got one thing uploaded, and the original vid is redoing as a test - reencoding at about 10fps at the mo. got it brightened upsomewhat (approx 2.5x) down to 320x224 with minimal croppage and whilst it isnt quite as good, it's only lost a little quality (magnifying and enlightening the original overcompression is the thing..)
unfortunately it's divx5 vanilla CBR (as its all i can handle - xvid and the more squinky divx modes have recently got far too complex! might have a quick bash later though as your original appeared to be VBR..) and silent.... virtual dub was having none of your otherwise pretty cool mono VBR mp3 :( sorry like.
gonna try uploading a second vid and then getting linkage
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Post by pete69zx »

Tahrey... thanx for the time with your feedback, greatly welcomed :wink:

As said before... i will try again this comming Sunday everything permitting & will try a 'few' ideas i have about camera positioning & video cropping/resolution.

Cheers.
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Karl_CLCoupe wrote:Damn, they dont work for me!

Nothing in low quality, just sound in high.

Damn Win Media Player!

Karl.
Works fine in real player and seems in real time too - was a bit dark but hell for first pass - top effort AFAIAC - after all I'm in no position to fault what I couldn't do myself....

Mind you Pete I'd want some better headlights :shock:
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Post by Tahrey1043 »

"with better equipment" ????

yup i thikn i definately am getting keybaord dyslexia, this is not good, typing the wrong word and then not noticing

shoulda been "better conditions" :)

.....right, now, i know it's a deeply ironic statement, but i apologise for the size - a good 2.6mb for a miniscule (160x120), 15fps, one-minute silent* movie. and, for the love of pete, it's a quicktime as well. but i've already got one video on the boil encoder-wise so trying to do anything with it would be kinda sluggish.

http://uk-polos.groovycarrot.co.uk/tahrey/P8220132.MOV
clicky clicky!
(Revis i believe this should satisfy! Well, almost**....)


*silent, but still with an 8khz uncompressed audio track sitting there wasting 480 precious kilobytes per minute/file. bloody hell. i wanna slap folk some days... (QUICKTIME?! when the software doesnt support macs? evil!)

** note 1 - you'll be lucky to find a 1-litre actually geared for 120mph, even if the redline was extended to GT levels
note 2 - yeah, i can usually exceed that without too much hassle or time spent with it floored most days, heading to/from college, but that was the only time in daylight i had my camera with me (heading back from polo show on a surprisingly cramped m6 toll)


EDITtional - before anyone asks - that reencode went a little pear shaped and i'm workin' on it.... right now i have a soundless, less-than-1/4x sized video suffering from some dodgy compression artifacts.... that's 24mb. hm.
and yeah pete dude... unless you did the whole of that without using your main beams, or its an effect of the recording, i'd say your lights are due a wash-out or re-alignment. My dipped lamps probably shine further up the road than yours seem to in the vid! scary at points doing 60mph and only being able to see 20 yards up the road.
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@ Tharey... as usual m8, your posts are both informative & abstract 8)

Goodluck with the encoding... u could say im a veteran encoder by now :wink:

Cheers.
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Post by Revis »

Have to say tahrey thats probably the most borin vid ive ever seen. The 120mph comment was a joke as this is what eeekie did in his so i didnt expect a 1L to. Also urs is just sat at 100mph, WOW shock horror, no sounds, no road, cant see where you are driving. Cant really compare that to petes vid im afraid. Not having a go at you or your vid, just was dissappointed at people not liking petes vid cos it wasnt a G40 thrashing up some long stretch reaching high speeds. admittedly his was quite big filesize wise too.
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Just dowloading Tahrey's video clip now :wink:
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Post by Tahrey1043 »

:lol: it wasnt serious mate, more of a test / joke thing, see if the hosting works etc (pretty much the first vid i found, and it seemed to fit a request). at least it was only 2 & a half megs :D
to get a decent length of movie and get both the road and halfway readable guages would require something better than my old olympus c200 digicam.... and some way of mounting the equipment OR someone else in the car (a rarity when im trying to get somewhere fast). was hoping to hit 105 when i started it but had to ease off a little because of a nonce in an m5.

an you really wanna hear a 1-litre pushing 5500rpm? i think it might break the mic! 8)
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On a technical note, I'm not having much look. Tried playing Pete's clip through RealPlayer, then downloaded the DivX codec it needed. Picture but no sound now. Unless I try the high quality version which just gave me sound, maybe that will work with the codec?

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Post by Revis »

karl, just get a program called videolan. Never need another codec again :D
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If you install the divx codec (http://www.divx.com/divx/download/) it'll run fine in media player.
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