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Of course you're going to be biased towards the GTI! Tis why I said it was understandable. Just think people took it that you were claiming a 'kill' of the S3.

I think I know what you meant in the post, basically that if you catch a quicker car napping you can whip past them before they (or their car) react - something I wholeheartedly agree with. It's generally my tactic when encountering highly tuned Jap cars with dinner plate turbos, the G40's power delivery means I'm gone (or a fair way ahead) by the time they've spooled up. I then back off and cheekily claim victory before they come on boost and totally trounce me...

If you go and watch RYWB at Santa Pod you'll see this first hand - numerous cars running 16, 17 or 18s quarter miles will post quicker 1/8th mile times than some sub-14s cars.

amstrange1 wrote: If you go and watch RYWB at Santa Pod you'll see this first hand - numerous cars running 16, 17 or 18s quarter miles will post quicker 1/8th mile times than some sub-14s cars.

straight line is just poo!

proper driving aint done in a straight line (Anyone can go in a straight line! )

i can give an R32 a run for its money, witch is posibly better round corners than a S3, this is around country lanes.

BTW my dad owns the R and used to do club rally's, he's a good driver, hence 3 to 4 hour fast drives into north wales.

sorry, bit off topic but...

polo2k wrote:some of the bigger audis are real sleepers.

take the old S2 avant.
old estate car with no real sense of presence till you get inside and spy the extra gauges, real carbon firbe trm, then you drive it and experiance a porche eating 300 ponies and the potential for a lot more (read same base engine as the dahlback golf) all flowing through a nice chassis with 6spd and 4 wheel drive using a form of slippy diff (3 off) all for under 6 grand nowerdays.

wicked cars,
they're actually only 230bhp standard, it's the well proven 5 cylinder block based on the one from the UR quattros, so extrememly tunable....
my old mans doesnt have any fancy carbon trim either - so even more of a sleeper .

dubpolo wrote:proper driving aint done in a straight line (Anyone can go in a straight line! )

Sorry, but what a load of crap. Yep, driving a relative low powered car in a straight line is pretty easy - but even in a lowly 75bhp Mk3 Polo GT good technique can shave over half a second off a quarter mile time.

When you move up to higher powered machinery driving quickly over the quarter mile takes a lot of skill. E.g. the bloke who ran a frankly shocking 16.8 quarter mile in his ~600bhp Schnitzer tuned M5 running against the stock 75bhp Yoof-Tuning Polo GT which ran a 17.4. Or go tell the bikers at RWYB on their sub-9s turbo'd and nitrous'd Hayabusas that going in a straight line is easy while they're wrestling the bike all the way down the strip.

Drag racing is not that simple.

Yes, but if you own a VW the chances are you didnt ask the dealer if it was good for drag racing now did you? If you catch my drift!

Phill.

Ive also had a bit of a race against an S3 in my old polo gti, not sure if the guy was trying, but the polo held its on which was nice. As you say its nice to see how it compares against some of the faster cars about. Now have a 9n tdi 100, cant remember how fast the gti felt, I miss it!

I know what you're on about - making cars that are faster a little surprised that a "shopper" car can have some poke

(shopper car in their eyes)

although I also see the S3 would be pretty rapid.

on the other end of the scale, I booted it off a roundabout once against a passat TDI and f*** me did it have some grunt it only had one red I as well..... someone reassure me here! it works both ways I guess!

sleeper cars - ok I know they're not so sleeper, but the RS series of audis are simple superb

david burton wrote:on the other end of the scale, I booted it off a roundabout once against a passat TDI and f*** me did it have some grunt it only had one red I as well..... someone reassure me here! it works both ways I guess!

I had a company Passat over the weekend which I think was the 100bhp engine and in 2nd and 3rd gear there is so much pull its unreal, I'm not suprised you got caught out! Nearly makes me want a diesel!

I raced a 115bhp GTTDi last night, it got toasted, absolutly!... happy i got the polo now because it was out of a Polo GTi or a GTTDi Golf.

Phill.

interesting

and there are a lot of different PS diesels about too.....

very confusing, VW are always changing the power output of diesels.

my dad's just got a T5 4-motion with the 2.5L diesel - so that'll be good to compare!

The parents' Bora PD130 can surprise hot hatches with it's grunt in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gears - my Dad likes getting one over on them, it catches people out when a standard Bora steams past effortlessly

A red 'I' is somewhere around the 115bhp mark, red 'DI' is 130bhp and all-red 'TDI' is 150bhp, the Golf mk4s sometimes get badged 'GT TDI' with this engine. Thing is that the badges are mixed up sometimes so you can have a 130PD with the badge from a 115PD model. Same thing happens with the petrol-powered mk4 Golfs, where the badges don't always reflect the size of the engine under the bonnet.

The 130bhp diesel 9n Polo must have a bit of grunt behind it then...?

i didn't have the plate R8 SLO did it?

I had a race with a 16v today, he came flying up my arse, then i went flying into the distance... imo standard 16v cant touch the GTi...

Phill.

Why not get down Santa Pod on Sunday and get some times in?