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Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:12 pm
by smg_shardul
Nikhil wrote:Hi.
I have installed BCM MAX 090 D in Polo sedan in India. Shardul is my friend. The car is same like sharduls car except it have normal fog lamps while sharduls car have cornering fog lamps. I have just changed canbus lines from bcm to instrument cluster for now. I have done same thing on one more car but it was manual transmission car. Issue is after bcm max reverse light stoped working. Its a dsg car. I tried everything possible but not able to get power for reverse light. Old bcm works perfect for reverse light. If reverse light issue get solved i am planning to install bixenon headlights with headlight adaptation wiring.
@ Ciclo & iichel please help him out...
Nikhil BCM is 090C I guess...
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:45 pm
by firegrafik
smg_shardul wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:12 pm
Nikhil wrote:Hi.
I have installed BCM MAX 090 D in Polo sedan in India. Shardul is my friend. The car is same like sharduls car except it have normal fog lamps while sharduls car have cornering fog lamps. I have just changed canbus lines from bcm to instrument cluster for now. I have done same thing on one more car but it was manual transmission car. Issue is after bcm max reverse light stoped working. Its a dsg car. I tried everything possible but not able to get power for reverse light. Old bcm works perfect for reverse light. If reverse light issue get solved i am planning to install bixenon headlights with headlight adaptation wiring.
@ Ciclo & iichel please help him out...
Nikhil BCM is 090C I guess...
I suppose he has previous series BCM 7H0937090D.
It has to retrofit light wiring to the OEM diagrams with max BCM. The power for reverse light on max BCM is taken from another pin.
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:15 pm
by ciclo
firegrafik wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:45 pm
The power for reverse light on max BCM is taken from another pin.
+1
smg_shardul wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:12 pm
Nikhil wrote:Hi.
I have installed BCM MAX 090 D in Polo sedan in India. Shardul is my friend. The car is same like sharduls car except it have normal fog lamps while sharduls car have cornering fog lamps. I have just changed canbus lines from bcm to instrument cluster for now. I have done same thing on one more car but it was manual transmission car. Issue is after bcm max reverse light stoped working. Its a dsg car. I tried everything possible but not able to get power for reverse light. Old bcm works perfect for reverse light. If reverse light issue get solved i am planning to install bixenon headlights with headlight adaptation wiring.
@ Ciclo & iichel please help him out...
Nikhil BCM is 090C I guess...
Of course.
When MT:
- you must add a new 1.0 mm2 wire from T73b/12 BCM white connector to T5/1 Left Taillight connector.
Isolate original T5/1.
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Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:40 pm
by Nikhil
Sorry BCM is 090 C .
Thanks ciclo and firegrafik but car is DSG Automatic so T73B/12 to T5/1 Wire is already present. In manual transmission also there is no need to add wire From T73B/12 to T5/1 unless we want to make reverse light bcm controlled (We done it in two cars in our group). I have checked pin no 12 in white connector with multimeter there is no voltage when car is in reverse gear. When i install old Bcm back Reverse Light starts working
. I am posting autoscan of Polo Sedan in which reverse light is not workng.
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Friday,20,April,2018,17:10:17:54138
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
Workshop Code: 648 00788 000255
VIN: MEXA15604FT070170 License Plate: POLO Sedan
Mileage: 21270km-13216mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 60-VW26 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56
VIN: MEXA15604FT070170 Mileage: 21270km-13216miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB) Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270
Revision: --H10--- Serial number:
Coding: 00250056232400080000
Shop #: WSC 00793 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
VCID: 6DD1F263BC42842CC3-8038
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0101
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 N HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 431 6502
Revision: 00043014 Serial number: CU501411275963
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 64455 001 1048576
VCID: 3A7B093F758CE39416-806E
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BH HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001
Serial number: --------------
Coding: 62DD2C63412A07C0461534708251E0800904
Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
ROD: N/A
VCID: 0501AAC384F25C6C2B-8050
No ASAM data for: "EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH" (VW26)
No fault code found.
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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 654 HW: 6R0 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H06 0060
Serial number: 090465LHU00004
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
VCID: 7EF3C52FE1240FB46A-802A
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 P HW: 6R0 907 044 P
Component: Climatronic H12 0614
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 408F7BD7D350B94458-8014
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C HW: 7E0 937 090 C
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752
Revision: B9082001 Serial number: 4000 322171532
Coding: 3A904AB808A10000003800C03C099490F0C041FF60040000200000000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 2B553C7B4AD64A1C9D-807E
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AL HW: 6R0 959 802 AL Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: ------------- 006 5520
Serial number: 13202576141106003903
Coding: 010000
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AH HW: 6R0 959 801 AH Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: ------------- 006 5520
Serial number: 13202579141105210618
Coding: 010000
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 13 202 579 14 HW: 132 025 791 41
1052
Serial number: ÿ132025791411052106
Coding: 303631
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L HW: 6R0 959 811 L
Component: ------------- 006 5520
Serial number: 13202580141020160648
Coding: 020000
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L HW: 6R0 959 812 L
Component: ------------- 006 5520
Serial number: 13102581141106053736
Coding: 020000
4 Faults Found:
03431 - Activation of Left Parking Light
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 6
Mileage: 21269 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.03.17
Time: 04:14:19
03432 - Activation of Right Parking Light
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 6
Mileage: 21269 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.03.17
Time: 04:14:19
01516 - Terminal 30; Left
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 6
Mileage: 21269 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.03.17
Time: 04:04:12
00927 - Terminal 30 (Right)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 6
Mileage: 21269 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.03.17
Time: 04:04:12
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 K HW: 1Q0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 4K H03 0106
Revision: -------- Serial number: 35821404004439
Coding: 300001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis4K 001004
ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis4K_001.rod
VCID: 3A7B093FBD8CE39416-806E
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J HW: 6R0 959 655 J
Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GW00WKAN7
Coding: 003036
Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 499966F3E86A780C8F-801C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6RF 920 860 Q HW: 6RF 920 860 Q
Component: KOMBI H02 0152
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140800
Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04719
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
VCID: 58BFB3B723C0118400-800C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090 C
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752
Revision: B9082001
Coding: 102300
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 68DF83779BA0A104B0-803C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H02 0152
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6ADBF97F8DAC9314A6-803E
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P HW: 1S2 909 144 P
Component: EPS_ECU H61 1702
Coding: 0001000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
VCID: 41897ED3D05AB04C57-8014
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 A HW: 6RD 035 187 A
Component: MIB2-S-R-CN 025 0210
Revision: -----001 Serial number: 03925GD0082306
Coding: 0000040001000A
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 45816AC3CC729C6C6B-8010
1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 6
Mileage: 21271 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.03.17
Time: 04:45:01
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:29)--------------------------
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:02 pm
by ciclo
I apologize, I misunderstood what you wrote. Culprit.
Well, the problem is that you have to feed the pins 63a and 68b of BCM connectors so that in turn will feed most of the lights, including the reversing light.
In short, you must do an installation like the one Shardul did.
In these wires lies your problem (the 4 faults in autoscan + reversing light):
This is the installation guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
You must install all wires that are shown in this guide.
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:41 am
by Nikhil
Thank you.
I am planning for full Bcm adaptation in a month.
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:58 pm
by smg_shardul
Hi ciclo , Firegrafics & iichel
I want to install AFS to my vento (polo sedan )
My vento is fitted with Bixenon with led DRL
Module , sensor , sensor bracket I got
I want to make it's wire can you help me to get connectors of module,sensor and it's wiring diagram?
Thanks in advance
Regards
Shardul
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:52 pm
by ciclo
I don't have the AFS diagrams for POLO sedan, but the following are applicable.
J431 control unit. T26.
left bixenon headlight
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
right bixenon headlight. G76 = rear sensor.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
+15 T26/23. Ground. Powertrain CAN-lines.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
I think firegrafik is the most indicated to tell you what parts you need.
The parts needed for AFS Polo 6R Sedan are not the same as for the Polo 6R hatchback.
More info here
https://www.drive2.ru/l/7316241/
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 4:24 am
by smg_shardul
Thanks a lot fir reply ciclo
I have few questions
Is level sensor & it's T4 connector common to all cars like Jetta , golf ,Passat etc...?
For power supply to AFS Module we need to take directly from fuse box terminal 15 to T26/23?
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Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 4:53 am
by firegrafik
ciclo wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:52 pm
.....
I think firegrafik is the most indicated to tell you what parts you need.
The parts needed for AFS Polo 6R Sedan are not the same as for the Polo 6R hatchback.
More info here
https://www.drive2.ru/l/7316241/
Unfortunately I haven't still finished wiring from AFS unit to the sensor. Need car every day. Hope to finish it as soon as possible.
But I will make some notes.
Polo 6R Sedan manufactured before 09.2011 had the rear axle same as Golf 4 and Zzzhuk's AFS part list is similar to Golf 4.
Zzzhuk's Polo is 2014 m.y. but he had installed rear disk brakes, and for this he had to change rear axle which supports disk brakes.
https://www.drive2.ru/l/6484810/
Axles for Polo 6R hatch and sedan are different.
Polo 6R Sedan (Vento) after 2015 M.y. got another axle,AFS sensor mounting way, AFS control unit.
So this report should be taken into consideration
https://www.drive2.ru/l/10464965/
The problem is the there are several axles are offered for Polo 6R sedan (PR-1KH or 1KT, and PR-8Q1 or 8Q3) it is 4 axle part numbers. And in best way you should have axle with PR-1KT, 8Q3. When I retrofited rear disk brakes I bought such axle
Russian version of the wiring diagrams for Polo 6R Sedan and Vento after 2015 is here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxlU59 ... FEM1E/view
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:05 am
by smg_shardul
firegrafik wrote:ciclo wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:52 pm
.....
I think firegrafik is the most indicated to tell you what parts you need.
The parts needed for AFS Polo 6R Sedan are not the same as for the Polo 6R hatchback.
More info here
https://www.drive2.ru/l/7316241/
Unfortunately I haven't still finished wiring from AFS unit to the sensor. Need car every day. Hope to finish it as soon as possible.
But I will make some notes.
Polo 6R Sedan manufactured before 09.2011 had the rear axle same as Golf 4 and Zzzhuk's AFS part list is similar to Golf 4.
Zzzhuk's Polo is 2014 m.y. but he had installed rear disk brakes, and for this he had to change rear axle which supports disk brakes.
https://www.drive2.ru/l/6484810/
Axles for Polo 6R hatch and sedan are different.
Polo 6R Sedan (Vento) after 2015 M.y. got another axle,AFS sensor mounting way, AFS control unit.
So this report should be taken into consideration
https://www.drive2.ru/l/10464965/
Russian version of the wiring diagrams for Polo 6R Sedan and Vento after 2015 is here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxlU59 ... FEM1E/view
Thanks a lot firegrafik for your reply
I need to take level sensor 6R0 512 521A as my car is polo sedan other cars sensor won't fit?
What about it's T4 connector is it same like all cars ?
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Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:13 am
by ciclo
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:14 am
by ciclo
smg_shardul wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 5:05 am
What about it's T4 connector is it same like all cars ?
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NO
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:59 am
by firegrafik
Btw, VagCanPro has zdc container for 6R0907357C control unit parametrization. For ABS (
Z0D) or ESP (
Z0A)
Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 7:27 am
by ciclo
Yes.