Shudder

ticki · Post by **ticki** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:20 am

I wonder if anybody else has experienced this problem

After some driving a shudder is felt through the steering wheel, and when applying the brakes it is intensified. At first I beleived the near side front wheel brake was sticking. this weekend I had all the wheels off and cleaned all the calipers etc. problem seems to be still present. Could it be a worn suspension component or worse warped driveshaft?

Any comments welcome.

HELP!!!!

clees · Post by **clees** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:09 pm

Could it be a buckled wheel???

You might need your steering re-aligning??!

ModifiedMadness · Post by **ModifiedMadness** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:47 pm

Could be as simple as your Tracking or Wheel Balancing being out mate, get them both checked

chronic7001 · Post by **chronic7001** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:07 pm

You havent warped the discs have you? Just a bit of cooking the discs could give you the symptons your describing.

SEXKITTEN · Post by **SEXKITTEN** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:44 pm

Hiya, I have a similar thing in my car. mine is due to laziness. I have very worn front pads, and discs as well. sounds like brake judder to me....but then I'm just a mere female....have you checked the discs???

DubGTI · Post by **DubGTI** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:34 am

Syptoms like these are normally because of warped disks or wheel balancing being out.

Try getting your front wheels balanced first, then if it persists get new front disks and pads that should sort it.

Check to see if you still have weights stuck to the inside of your front wheels, if either of these are missing you can be sure balancing is the problem.

ticki · Post by **ticki** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:37 pm

DubGTI wrote:Syptoms like these are normally because of warped disks or wheel balancing being out.

Try getting your front wheels balanced first, then if it persists get new front disks and pads that should sort it.

Check to see if you still have weights stuck to the inside of your front wheels, if either of these are missing you can be sure balancing is the problem.

Thanks

I would agree with you. but this problem occurs after 15mins of hard drivings lasts 5-10mins then goes away.

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DubGTI · Post by **DubGTI** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:05 pm

Then maybe theres some problem with the power steering rack, never heard of that before tho.

ticki · Post by **ticki** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:59 pm

del_trotter · Post by **del_trotter** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:09 pm

yes, have experienced the same problem you describe and you could feel acutal brake pedal moving very slightly up and down with the judder...

was certain that the discs were warped so changed both along with the pads... the problem went away for around a month but is beginning to reappear.

along with the judder there's also a grinding/metal rubbing sort of noise coming from one or both of the wheels as the car comes to a halt... the noise is pulsating - slowing down as with the speed of the wheels.

any ideas?

DubGTI · Post by **DubGTI** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:14 pm

Sounds like you could have warped your new set of disks then.

1) Avoid cheap disks

2) Dont sit in Traffic with your foot on the brake after heavy braking

ticki · Post by **ticki** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:02 pm

DubGTI wrote:Sounds like you could have warped your new set of disks then.

1) Avoid cheap disks

2) Dont sit in Traffic with your foot on the brake after heavy braking

Thanks all.

It turns out the brakes are sticking, but it was the piston itself that was not retracting correctly. I have repaired the just the near side front brake, and it has not done it for a day, so see how it goes.

I have learnt that your disk will always go out of shape when it heats up. Its just a case making sure your brake pad makes enough clearance.

I will repair the farside front brake when I get time. but I have a feeling it wont last long. new Brembo calipers it looks like next? lol

PS. The disks are Brembo, just so you know that

ticki · Post by **ticki** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:17 pm

Well well. I just wanted to conclude this topic. The fault of the sticking brake had nothing to with the disc's, pads, calipers or master cylinder. no sir. but non other than the "PEDAL BOX' turns out, the brake pedal was jammed and therefore not allowing brake fluid to travel back into the master cylinder, and release the brake pads from the disc's.

Sods law, funny how its the last thing after a long list of stuff