Problem after replacement Instrument Cluster GTI 6R

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favi
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Problem after replacement Instrument Cluster GTI 6R

Post by favi »

Hello. Today I was at ASO and they exchanged my cluster instrument with 6R0 920 860 F to 6R0 920 870 A. After the replacement is a problem .. The fuel gauge does not work, and the temperature gauge on the outside shows -17 degrees, and in fact is +30 degrees.
Below scan with VCDS

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Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY~~   

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 1110
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 D    HW: 03F 906 070 D
   Component: SIMOS10.20H02 9694  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001900D6202400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070D 003014
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS_003_VW25.rod
   VCID: 234234CE2A4EB859D4-8076

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AK    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3217500B7842814E484DA00401300
   Shop #: WSC 27514 001 1048576
   VCID: 071A405EB2B67479A8-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 G    HW: 6R0 820 045 G
   Component: Man AC         02 0101  
   Revision: 0002S 02    
   VCID: 326CC18A6DB421D12F-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 H    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0230  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0394 088111649
   Coding: 2DB02BBF08E12400923008007C2B0DD040C0410F608D0000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 428C914ADD149151BF-8016

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8610 
   Serial number: KU0KU010091300015333
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8610 
   Serial number: KU0KU006091300015370
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  007 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU015031100013211
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  007 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU014031100013620
   Coding: 08BC32

2 Faults Found:
03431 - Activation of Left Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 111
                    Mileage: 145652 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.29
                    Time: 14:21:40

03301 - Response Closing Status of Drivers Door 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 111
                    Mileage: 145652 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.29
                    Time: 14:21:40


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 B    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0012  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 47301107501403
   Coding: 108001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 3D76E2B6ACEAEEA9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX00J3B65
   Coding: 003232
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4A9CB96AED24491177-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40570G68U9HCH

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB40550G68U7HIK

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405T0510IA8VI

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405T0510IMOL.

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A    HW: 6R0 920 870 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 00220 259 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3362C48E9AAE28D924-8066

1 Fault Found:
9453074 - Fuel Level Sensor 1 
          B103E 1B [009] - Resistance Too High
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 71
                    Mileage: 145660 km
                    Date: 2017.06.29
                    Time: 17:35:34


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0230  
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 70E80B82A33853C119-8024

2 Faults Found:
01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 71
                    Mileage: 145639 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.29
                    Time: 12:54:56

01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 71
                    Mileage: 145639 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.29
                    Time: 12:54:56


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADC19EA8DE4A91157-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6AC8FEEA860C3940-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached
Before replacment

Code: Select all

Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY~~  

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 1110
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 D    HW: 03F 906 070 D
   Component: SIMOS10.20H02 9694  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001900D6202400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070D 003014
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS_003_VW25.rod
   VCID: 234234CE2A4EB859D4-8076

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AK    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3217500B7842814E484DA00401300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 071A405EB2B67479A8-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 G    HW: 6R0 820 045 G
   Component: Man AC         02 0101  
   Revision: 0002S 02    
   VCID: 326CC18A6DB421D12F-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 H    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0230  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0394 088111649
   Coding: 25B02BBF08E12400923008007C2B0CD000C0410F60840000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 428C914ADD149151BF-8016

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8610 
   Serial number: KU0KU010091300015333
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8610 
   Serial number: KU0KU006091300015370
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  007 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU015031100013211
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  007 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU014031100013620
   Coding: 08BC32

3 Faults Found:
01758 - Bulbs for Brake Lamps 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Time Indication: 0

03432 - Activation of Right Parking Light 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Time Indication: 0

03432 - Activation of Right Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 35
                    Reset counter: 27
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 B    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0012  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 47301107501403
   Coding: 108001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 3D76E2B6ACEAEEA9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX00J3B65
   Coding: 003232
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4A9CB96AED24491177-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40570G68U9HCH

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB40550G68U7HIK

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405T0510IA8VI

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405T0510IMOL.

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 F    HW: 6R0 920 860 F
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0304  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A00
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 377AF09E8ED6C4F918-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0230  
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 70E80B82A33853C119-8024

2 Faults Found:
01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 99
                    Mileage: 88547 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.01.02
                    Time: 10:00:00

01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 99
                    Mileage: 88547 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.01.02
                    Time: 10:00:00


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0304  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADC19EA8DE4A91157-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6AC8FEEA860C3940-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached
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Re: Problem after replacement Instrument Cluster GTI 6R

Post by iichel »

place back old cluster to see whether the problem persists.

if so, new cluster is broken or new cluster EEPROM is bad.
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spacewalker
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Re: Problem after replacement Instrument Cluster GTI 6R

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99% is hardware , because problem what he said is very similar to that I know
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gti16
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Re: Problem after replacement Instrument Cluster GTI 6R

Post by gti16 »

Pointers must work regardless of whether they are counting right or not.
I have the amarok dashboard to install on my 6r polo but I have not yet found someone to program the immobilizer. I've made all the changes in the eeprom to adapt to the polo but the most important thing missing is the immobilizer. Not even in VW do this :(
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Re: Problem after replacement Instrument Cluster GTI 6R

Post by spacewalker »

Dont see any problem to make it
also you guys can use cluster from :

Skoda fabia 5JA 920 xxx
Image

and 6JA 920 xxx from Seat Toledo
Image

models before FL ( cluster with double button, with one button is MQB)
they all PQ25 platform and use this same 6R093708x xx BCM
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