Polo 6R - Questions (MFA, CC, cluster)

[VapeBoro]

Hi everyone,
I'm owner of Polo 6R Trendline.
1. I'm planing to add MFA and CC in the near future, and there's my question, is anyone there who could make MFA and CC wiring?
2. For this question I didn't found answer anywhere.
I made cluster test by VCDS and realized that my cluster is ready for MFA and CC, but I've found one more thing, which is rear seatbelt warning on display. And here's a question.
Could someone tell me is it possible to just turn it on, or I have to add any parts, or change BCM?
Thanks for your help

[iichel]

I think it would be very helpful for anyone, to know what car you're currently driving. If you can tell us some more info, it would be very helpful in answering your questions.

[VapeBoro]

As I mention, I'm driving Polo 6R 1.2 gasoline 70HP from 2010.
It's Trendline version with climate control added. It's cheapest one so I don't have anything, I don't have heated mirrors, MFA, nothing.
My BCM is 085, and I know I have to upgrade it above 087 for CC.
I don't know what else I can say about it

[iichel]

Are you sure you don't mean regular CC? ACC is adaptive cruise control.

[VapeBoro]

Are you sure you don't mean regular CC? ACC is adaptive cruise control.

Thanks, my bad, I will change it to CC

[iichel]

Ok in that case it is possible with bcm 6R0 937 087 yes. Be aware of the index. Odd letters ( a c e g etc) will not have the correct carrier frequency. Even letters (b d f h etc) will work fine.

A bcm change is not necessary for MFA and usually a cluster will support mfa with 3 wires to the new stalks and a VCDS coding.

[VapeBoro]

Ok in that case it is possible with bcm 6R0 937 087 yes. Be aware of the index. Odd letters ( a c e g etc) will not have the correct carrier frequency. Even letters (b d f h etc) will work fine.

A bcm change is not necessary for MFA and usually a cluster will support mfa with 3 wires to the new stalks and a VCDS coding.

Ok, but my questions above are a little bit different I want to add CC and MFA at the same time, so I'm looking for wiring for sale.
Still I don't know what about seatbelt display on cluster. Is it coming with BCM or MFA?

[iichel]

I think there are some wirings for sale. If you are good with cables you could perhaps try to make your own. Otherwise I can make you a wiring as well.

Seatbelt display should already be available. Do you have a diagnostic tool such as VCDS?

[pranaynewton]

I have a 2014 Vento (Polo) 6R TSI with the below cluster. I am planning to upgrade my current cluster with 5K0920870F.

The reset buttons are on the middle are in my current cluster. They are on the side in the cluster above. Will there be any issues in the fitment?

Any suggestions on model numbers for cluster upgrade? I need the maxi dot version. Suggestions on sourcing the same would be appreciated.

[iichel]

Go for a polo GTI or blueGT cluster. 6R0 part numbers.

Alternatively you could use a cluster from a Skoda Fabia or Seat Toledo. These cars must be PQ25 platform. Clusters from a different platform (5k0 = pq35, 6c0 = pq26/mqb) will not work on a polo 6R.

Keep in mind that swapping a cluster will require the adaptation of your immobiliser. Do not do this yourself unless you are 200% sure what you are doing. Do not put the cluster in the car unless there is an expert in immobiliser adaptations with you.

[VapeBoro]

I think there are some wirings for sale. If you are good with cables you could perhaps try to make your own. Otherwise I can make you a wiring as well.

Seatbelt display should already be available. Do you have a diagnostic tool such as VCDS?

Yes, I have VCDS but I couldn't find option to turn it on

[iichel]

Post An autoscan please

[VapeBoro]

There is an autoscan

Przebieg: 152710km Numer naprawy: Polo
Typ podwozia: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Skanowanie: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 56
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY054307 Przebieg: 152710km
01-Silnik -- Stan: OK 0000
03-ABS/hamulce -- Stan: OK 0000
04-Kat skretu kierow. -- Stan: OK 0000
08-Klimatyzacja -- Stan: OK 0000
09-Centr.zesp.elektr. -- Stan: OK 0000
15-Airbag -- Stan: OK 0000
17-Zest.wskazników -- Stan: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Stan: OK 0000
25-Immobiliser -- Stan: OK 0000
44-Wsp.kierownicy -- Stan: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Stan: OK 0000
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Adres 01: Silnik (CGP) Plik etykiet: 03E-906-033-AZQ.lbl
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 03E 906 023 L HW: 03E 906 023 L
Komponent: SIMOS91 1.2l 4V 4489
Weryfikacja: --H05--- Numer seryjny:
Kodowanie: 0000071
Kod serwisu: WSC 00999 444 64523
VCID: 285F4EA298F31D06F9-515A
Nie znaleziono bledów.
Kody gotowosci: B/D
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Adres 03: ABS/hamulce (J104) Plik etykiet:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 6R0 907 379 AJ HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Komponent: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Weryfikacja: --------
Kodowanie: 210224E3217200B6842824E284D800401100
Kod serwisu: WSC 02069 000 00000
VCID: 0603201AB5272B76AB-8052
Nie znaleziono bledów.
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Adres 08: Klimatyzacja (J301) Plik etykiet: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 6R0 820 045 H HW: 6R0 820 045 H
Komponent: Climatic 25 0660
Weryfikacja: 00 11 25
VCID: 3365A9CE92356EDE5C-8066
Nie znaleziono bledów.
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Adres 09: Centr.zesp.elektr. (J519) Plik etykiet:. AKP\6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 6R0 937 085 C HW: 6R0 937 085
Komponent: BCM PQ25 M+ H46 0221
Weryfikacja: BB046001 Numer seryjny: 0341 188100020
Kodowanie: 7CB02BBF08A10048002000003D2B1C900040410F60060000200000000000
Kod serwisu: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 3B7581EEBA65A69E84-806E
Podsystem 1 - Oznaczenie elementu SW: 6R0 959 801 R HW: 6R0 959 801 R Plik etykiet: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Komponent: J386__TSG_FT 006 0903
Numer seryjny: KU0-KU008.07.1013299
Kodowanie: 18BC30
Podsystem 2 - Oznaczenie elementu SW: 6R0 959 802 T HW: 6R0 959 802 T Plik etykiet: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Komponent: J387__TSG_BT 006 0902
Numer seryjny: KU0-KU028.06.1011905
Kodowanie: 08BC30
Nie znaleziono bledów.
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Adres 15: Airbag (J234) Plik etykiet:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Komponent: VW10Airbag00G H09 0020
Weryfikacja: -------- Numer seryjny: 003GX004BVFR
Kodowanie: 003047
Kod serwisu: WSC 124697 483 00190
Zbiór danych ASAM: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 4A9BD42AEDBF0F160F-801E
Czujnik zderzenia bocznej poduszki bezp.po stronie kierowcy:
Numer seryjny: 3572SRB40000C3106B0Y
Czujnik zderzenia bocznej poduszki bezp.po stronie pasa¿era:
Numer seryjny: 3582SRB40000C358998D
Czujnik zderzenia bocznej poduszki bezp.z ty³u po str.kierowcy:
Numer seryjny: 3515RRB405D6SD5OA9BZ
Czujnik zderz.bocznej poduszki bezp.z ty³u po str.przedn.pasa¿.:
Numer seryjny: 3525RRB40676Q5E6AOR0
Nie znaleziono bledów.
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Adres 17: Zest.wskazników (J285) Plik etykiet:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 6R0 920 860 E HW: 6R0 920 860 E
Komponent: KOMBI H04 0304
Numer seryjny: 00000000000000
Kodowanie: 140200
Kod serwisu: WSC 124697 483 00190
Zbiór danych ASAM: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 366390DA89477BF67B-8062
Nie znaleziono bledów.
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Adres 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Plik etykiet:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 6R0 937 085
Komponent: GW-K-CAN TP20 0221
Kodowanie: 002200
Kod serwisu: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 70EF66C2A3A315C661-8024
Nie znaleziono bledów.
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Adres 25: Immobiliser (J334) Plik etykiet:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Komponent: IMMO H04 0304
Numer seryjny:
Kodowanie: 000000
Kod serwisu: WSC 00000 000 00000
Zbiór danych ASAM: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6ADB74AA8D7FEF162F-803E
Nie znaleziono bledów.
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Adres 44: Wsp.kierownicy Plik etykiet: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Oznaczenie elementu: 6R0 423 156 B
Komponent: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Kodowanie: 11250
Kod serwisu: WSC 00788
VCID: 2F6DA5BEEA1D4A3E38-807A
Nie znaleziono bledów.
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Adres 56: Radio (J503) Plik etykiet:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Oznaczenie elementu SW: 5M0 035 156 C HW: 5M0 035 156 C
Komponent: Radio 510 0521
Weryfikacja: R0510001 Numer seryjny: VWZ5Z1K0361178
Kodowanie: 0000020002
Kod serwisu: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 29594BA640F9240EE6-807C
Nie znaleziono bledów.

Koniec --------------------(Skanowanie trwalo: 02:14)----------------------

[iichel]

Your cluster has byte 1 bit 1 set to yes. This should make the cluster display the read seatbelt light, when the driver is not wearing the seatbelt, or if the passenger is not (if seated).

[VapeBoro]

Yes, i was wondering about rear seats, but now I know it's impossible.
Last question is do I need wiring for MFA? I found for CC, but I couldn't find wires for MFA