Polo 1.8T! (KO4-023 & standalone ECU)

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str8ballin
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Polo 1.8T! (KO4-023 & standalone ECU)

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Hi guys, the project is finally started thought i'd give an update!
The old 1.4 fsi engine is out now, im looking to sell it with ecu, gearbox etc, anyone know how much i could get for it? its got 45,000 & Full Vdub history.
Heres the rundown of parts i needed for my 280hp (hopefully) polo:

AYP 1.8t from Seat ibiza
02J Gearbox from Ibiza 5speed
Drive shafts from new skoda fabia TDI
K04-023 turbo, Manifold & pressure Pipe from Audi TT 225.
Custom Intercooler & Turbo inlet pipes
Injectors, 4bar FPR & fuel pump from Audi TT 225
3" MAF housing
Engine Mounts, Gearbox Mounts (OEM from VW)
Engine Support Brackets & console (OEM from VW)
Turbo Oil lines extended to fit because of K04
Front Mount Intercooler - 530 x 234 x 65 mm
Blitz Super sound BOV
3" Blueflame Custom D/P & Exhaust - from Turbo to Back
LINK G3 Stand Alone ECU & display link.

I was originally getting a plug and play ecu, but after ordering I was told its not quite plug n play on the 9N! The engine would run fine but all the tachos in the dash wouldn't & i would have to either get a polo GTI EMS or new LCR EMS or run extra gauges. I wanted a clean standard looking install & didnt want to change my dash, this was a big problem because the only reason I was doing the conversion was because it seemed easy (wrong!).
Then I was really regretting not taking the clocks, keys, ign barrel, ecu, etc from the donor car and I guess alot of people will think I should have gone that route in the first place, but now I am getting a stand alone ecu which can control everything (except VAG diagnostics), I found Thor racing who said they can help me out, The ECU will hook up to everything in the car so I dont have to change any clocks & it comes with a display link (small screen) which tells you everything.
I managed to grab a bargain off ebay for the K04 turbo & manifold last week (£285 & in excellent cond) so I had to get that which ment also getting a few extra bits like the fpr, maf etc.
Im waiting for my parts from VW, should be here on tuesday, then i can get the engine in place!
Then I Will be getting the car towed to BlueFlame for my Exhaust then to THOR Racing to get the ECU fitted & a day on the rollers mapping. Hoping to see 290hp, but i'll be happy with 250 to be honest!
All in the project is costing me £4250... if everything works I saved £3000 rather than paying another company & I have a standalone ecu.
Will be adding photos soon....watch this space!

Thanks for reading... any opinions much appreciated!
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Post by Wouter »

Nice project.


But you forgot something important

Brakes !

Good luck, I will follow it ;)

Greets
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Post by jeff3lam »

hi str8ballin........ive got an fsi as well and im thinkin of an engine conversion in the future.........but the cost of ur project seems a lil expensive.......

my mechanic has told me that FF cars sud only have a maximum 200bhp.....or this will severely change the handling, control etc......and it will be dangerous....

what tyres u gonna put on ur car?
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Post by str8ballin »

Oh I think the MAF is going to be ditched with the stand alone but not 100% sure, i'll leave all the electrical to them!
And yea the brakes & suspension are standard at the mo!!! I know a very silly thing to do, but im shopping around for big brakes & a nice suspension setup!
I think at £4000, my project seems expensive when you think I could sell the car & put that money towards buying an old S3 but I want something different & i love the look of my polo! Other places charge £6-7500 for a drive in drive out with standard ecu.
Element of suprise..... the look on peoples faces when a polo is leaving an evo8!
CANT WAIT! :twisted:
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Post by Wouter »

I don't think you will be leaving an EVO8 :p Don't forget it is AWD.

You will most likely be having problems with traction while accelerating fast if you put on that much power on a Polo which is FWD!

Gr
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Post by david burton »

josh is selling a 312mm setup in the for sale section. might be of use.

230bhp is about right in my opinion, the leon cupra R has no trouble, the ypre R is ok at 200, and so on. so I think if it was 250 then it would be a handful but not impossible to drive fast

good luck with the project
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Post by str8ballin »

Wouter wrote:I don't think you will be leaving an EVO8 :p Don't forget it is AWD.

You will most likely be having problems with traction while accelerating fast if you put on that much power on a Polo which is FWD!

Gr
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Oh i forgot i was not on about launching from stand still, obviously 4wd will be quicker off the line but only until 2nd gear :lol:
I was on about rolling starts and on the motorway, power to weight an evo could never match me unless its the FQ400 :shock:
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Post by M7 »

sounds like a great project, keep us updated 8)
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Wouter wrote:I don't think you will be leaving an EVO8 :p Don't forget it is AWD.

You will most likely be having problems with traction while accelerating fast if you put on that much power on a Polo which is FWD!

Gr
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so long as i am out of 1st gear evos/scoobys aint a problem for me

:lol: they dont like it either :lol:
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Post by str8ballin »

ceedubya wrote:
Wouter wrote:I don't think you will be leaving an EVO8 :p Don't forget it is AWD.

You will most likely be having problems with traction while accelerating fast if you put on that much power on a Polo which is FWD!

Gr
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so long as i am out of 1st gear evos/scoobys aint a problem for me

:lol: they dont like it either :lol:
HAHA thats what im on about!!
Luv your car man its an inspiration to alot of us!
How much power you running at the mo? Any future mods?
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Post by mc_iver_9n »

Nice project mate, one i plan to do in a few years :D
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HAHA thats what im on about!!
Luv your car man its an inspiration to alot of us!
How much power you running at the mo? Any future mods?
i dont know what power i have as it was live mapped on the road ( very interesting experiance :shock: )

its running a large front mount intercooler = see pic

a 2.5inch 1 box exhaust system and downpipe with no cat

one of the best aftermarket induction kits for a TT

a "PROPER" live remap to suit mods/car (fwd) and my driving style

i ll let you guess the bhp/torque figures :wink:

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if i go BIG TURBO ( not ihi ) i would be looking for around 400bhp with traction/launch control

i will probs sell car and build something else instead of big turbo tho
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Post by dino »

ceedubya wrote:
i will probs sell car and build something else instead of big turbo tho
PM me when you sell the car pls :wink:
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ceedubya wrote:
HAHA thats what im on about!!
Luv your car man its an inspiration to alot of us!
How much power you running at the mo? Any future mods?
i dont know what power i have as it was live mapped on the road ( very interesting experiance :shock: )

its running a large front mount intercooler = see pic

a 2.5inch 1 box exhaust system and downpipe with no cat

one of the best aftermarket induction kits for a TT

a "PROPER" live remap to suit mods/car (fwd) and my driving style

i ll let you guess the bhp/torque figures :wink:

Image

if i go BIG TURBO ( not ihi ) i would be looking for around 400bhp with traction/launch control

i will probs sell car and build something else instead of big turbo tho
That fmic is so big! Have you got rid of the A/C? Where did you get the piping done from, im going to need custom piping like you did.
Ceedubya u put all the tt parts in your polo, does that include the driveshafts? did you have to modify them? & did you put the tt dash in aswell?
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That fmic is so big! Have you got rid of the A/C? Where did you get the piping done from, im going to need custom piping like you did.
Ceedubya u put all the tt parts in your polo, does that include the driveshafts? did you have to modify them? & did you put the tt dash in aswell?
i never refitted the air con (1 less thing for the engine to turn :wink: ), my boost pipes were made at the same place that did my exhaust
i am using fabia vrs shafts and the standard polo dash and clocks
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