6N2 GTI Manifold & Exhaust Options

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It's a real shame to see that car being broken for bits, it used to belong to guy on here (1der) and was a really nice car

http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... hp?t=33725

Looks like the new owner hasnt looked after it too well

I remember when he sold his GTI he replaced it with a 20V 6N2 GTI beast :)
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TriggerFish wrote:http://www.clubpolo.co.uk/forum/index.p ... try2315903

Manifold, and catback exhuast - £120!

Also got a cammed engine for £300. It's the guy I got my brakes off of. I'd have gone for them if I weren't looking at changing the engine in the summer.

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Cheers for that Joe, totally sweet for you to point that out for me! I've sent the chap a message so here's hoping I score the manifold and exhaust!

Say, what's a cammed engine all about-bit of a noob on that one?! :oops:
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Well when people say "Cammed" its just because they have had their camshafts either uprated or re-profiled

JBS Auto Designs sell the Schrick camshafts for the GTI but they are very pricey, to change the Cams and get a custom re-map will set you back £1300+
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As Ben says - the different cams allow for longer injection durations so you can get more fuel/air in per cycle. Usually gives more power but often at the expense of lower down torque as they tend to move the power to higher in the rev-range.

Also very expensive - and not really worth it IMO given the cost power gains on this engine (and gearbox rebuilds!) vs. a 1.8t conversion.
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TriggerFish wrote:As Ben says - the different cams allow for longer injection durations so you can get more fuel/air in per cycle. Usually gives more power but often at the expense of lower down torque as they tend to move the power to higher in the rev-range.

Also very expensive - and not really worth it IMO given the cost power gains on this engine (and gearbox rebuilds!) vs. a 1.8t conversion.
Totally agree :)

You could push over 160+ bhp from the GTI engine but its mega bucks for very little gain, the most cost effective thing to do would either be a supercharger or a 1.8T conversion.
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Ahh I see, cheers guys! I think I'll give that a miss for now then-I've heard the gear boxes on our cars are made of soft cheese so pushing it too much could be asking for trouble!

I'm still waiting for a reply from the chap selling the mani and de cat, hope he replies tonight or in the morning 'cos I gotta go up north this weekend and was gonna visit him too!

Here's hoping :D
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My bhp figure is pretty much 150 now as my ecu is adaptive so learns how you drive and adapts to your style, guys at amd said il see over 150 once it learns more, I can't see how 10bhp more will feel different, I'd stick to around 150 and strip it out if it's speed and cornering your after. Alot of headwork and trouble comes with cams and that mate....
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Trottagti wrote:My bhp figure is pretty much 150 now as my ecu is adaptive so learns how you drive and adapts to your style, guys at amd said il see over 150 once it learns more, I can't see how 10bhp more will feel different, I'd stick to around 150 and strip it out if it's speed and cornering your after. Alot of headwork and trouble comes with cams and that mate....
If you get Cams done then its probably best buying a fully programmable ECU to replace the original so you can fiddle with the VVT and get it to come in earlier, it would still give you the same power of 160 bhp but you could totally alter the midrange power making it a lot faster.

Its similar to what they do with the Type R's and S2000's because the Hondata ECU lowers VTEC from 5,800 to around 3500-4500 rpm which totally transforms the car without giving huge power gains
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Wouldn't that get really tiring being in VTECH when cruising on a motorway or something? Must kill the MPG too! Bet it's good fun, which is more important!
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Those vtec controllers are just for the noise as it takes the peak power lower so your not gaining anything at all by lowering it, you make it slower if anything. Vtec comes in at say 6000rpm for a reason. Max power at that rpm and torque.... So lowering it takes all the hondas power away....

But yeah I'm happy with 150 lol!
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TriggerFish wrote:http://www.clubpolo.co.uk/forum/index.p ... try2315903

Manifold, and catback exhuast - £120!

Also got a cammed engine for £300. It's the guy I got my brakes off of. I'd have gone for them if I weren't looking at changing the engine in the summer.

Joe
Score! I got this raceland manifold and de cat exhaust, it's exactly what I wanted apart from I'm gonna have the twin pipe changed for a single pipe hidden effort. As it stands fresh from the donor car it looks like this:

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Hopefully be getting it fitted in a week or two so I can then press on with the cruise control mod I've also got lined up.

Top marks to Joe for sharing this sale in the first place, cheers buddy :D
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Nice one. :) And you're welcome - the whole point of forums really! Club Polo is full of idiots, but the classifieds can offer decent finds. :)

Be interesting to hear what this sounds like in person if you need help sorting the cruise out.
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Nice mate, looks like you got a good deal there. I'd have all ne pipe work made up though. Looks abit bodged tbh, you taking it somewhere for fitting?
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TriggerFish wrote:Wouldn't that get really tiring being in VTECH when cruising on a motorway or something? Must kill the MPG too! Bet it's good fun, which is more important!
If VTEC was set at 4K-4.5K you would have to be doing 85mph on the motorway for it to kick in which isnt too bad but yeah if you lower it any further it would be a nightmare on long journeys. The fuel economy would be awful too as you quite rightly said
Polo Dan wrote: Score! I got this raceland manifold and de cat exhaust, it's exactly what I wanted apart from I'm gonna have the twin pipe changed for a single pipe hidden effort. As it stands fresh from the donor car it looks like this:

Hopefully be getting it fitted in a week or two so I can then press on with the cruise control mod I've also got lined up.

Top marks to Joe for sharing this sale in the first place, cheers buddy :D
Nice one Dude :) That is one serious bargain!
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Re: 6N2 GTI Manifold & Exhaust Options

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Lads, lads, lads, it's all come to a rather sudden halt at the moment :cry:
Unfortunately I've damaged my foot and am currently sporting a plaster cast from my knee down to my toes and as such can't get about. So, for the next few weeks nothing much will be happening with the Polo :( However when I'm back up n running I'll get the exhaust and cruise things sorted. Not sure who's gonna fit the exhaust yet, depends on pricing really but I've gotta get the twin pipe changed so I'll see what the garage that does that wants to charge to fit it all.

One other thing though, I need a gasket for the manifold - does anyone know what one to use?
It's a Raceland manifold but will the OEM gasket do the job? If so, does anyone know the part number?

Cheers gang :)
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