6R 1.6 TDI Stage 2

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6R 1.6 TDI Stage 2

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Hello, yesterday i was surprised of this forum! Here are so many people with good ideas und nice projects!
Here is my Polo 6R from 2010.

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Polo 6R 2010 Highline with the 1.6 TDI CAYC in Pepper Grey


Exteriour

GTI-Grill with the GTD-sign wrapped
VW-Sign front+rear in mat-black
VW-Sign rear 3D-sticker wrapped
Mirror-Caps wrapped
LED-Light for the license-plate
Osram Nightbreaker H7
Osram Diadem Chrom
fogglights-bulbs xenon-blue
removed rear Wiper
Dectane stoplight (middle) in black
Smoked rear lights


Interiour

GTI-Cluster with blue needles and needle-wipe
LED Bulps


Car-Hifi

Alubutyl-Insulation of doors, side parts, tailgate and trunk
Kenwood DNX521DAB
Kenwood Canbus Interface CAW-KIMUN1
FM/DAB+ receeiver in the tailgate
Frontystem - Ground Zero Uranium
Rearsystem - Blaupunkt Coaxial


Engine

150HP/330NM
DPF off
AGR off
BMC Carbon Airbox 85/150
Silicone hoses in the engine-room
Batteryholder selfmade (90 degrees turned to install the Airfilter)


Suspension/Brakes

Bilstein B14
Brembo MAX (288x25/232x9)
Brembo Brakepads front/rear
Fischer brake lines orange
TRW ST 1160 bigger bolts for the rear breaks
Caliper painted

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Re: 6R 1.6 TDI Stage 2

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Nice work on fitting the carbon airbox, did you notice much of a difference after fitting it?
What work was involved to turn the battery 90 degrees?
My 1.6 tdi pushing similar power as yours, 145bhp/320nm :)
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Thanks ;-)
The responsiveness is much better, but i can't say that the power increase, i love the sound, kind of darth vader when the boost comes and you lift the padel. I have a short walk around video


http://youtu.be/gGMG7pBR45U

I bought a VW T5 battery-holder (metall). It is too big, so i cut it smaller. With the parts i cut of i made a angle to fix the new holder. The holder has 3 fixed points. I chose the vacuum pipes into blue silcone-pipes

Tomorrow i will poste some pictures of the holder. But will made a new one of stainless steel and "nicer" ;-)
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Re: 6R 1.6 TDI Stage 2

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Welcome Waldi, nice 6R. 8)

About the issue at hand, do you know this? viewtopic.php?f=10&t=54171 It is an excellent guide that has been useful in countless places, but everything evolves.
Initially you have to do the same, but I think that an easier and better way for you (IMHO) is the follows.

Two wires
- Bus_lin, from T41/10 to T28a/16 (driver's door connector)
- 12V (+15), from T41/9 to SB10b (or SB13b), put a 2Amp fuse.
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Airbag
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1290#p498666


BCM, buttons, etc

- Easy and cheap:

MF buttons 5G0959442L (1 :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1875#p504765)
BCM 6R0937087T (2016) viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&p=498043#p498043

Perhaps MF buttons 5G0959442Q (yet to be confirmed if they will work, 2 :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1875#p504765) also be possible with this BCM 6R0937087T but in this case STALKS 6R0953507 are mandatory.


- Difficult and expensive:

MF buttons 5G0959442Q (yet to be confirmed if they will work, 2 :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1875#p504765)

STALKS 7E0953507 are mandatory.

BCM 7E0937090 4YZ
...this BCM in your case requires:
1
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1830#p504297
2
Installing wiring in this way: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1875#p504664 (I do not provide support for this installation :P )

...and makes possible,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
or,
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1755#p503577
:wink:
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Re: 6R 1.6 TDI Stage 2

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ciclo wrote:Welcome Waldi, nice 6R. 8)

About the issue at hand, do you know this? viewtopic.php?f=10&t=54171 It is an excellent guide that has been useful in countless places, but everything evolves.
Initially you have to do the same, but I think that an easier and better way for you (IMHO) is the follows.

Two wires
- Bus_lin, from T41/10 to T28a/16 (driver's door connector)
- 12V (+15), from T41/9 to SB10b (or SB13b), put a 2Amp fuse.
Image

Airbag
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=1290#p498666

Stalks
No problem for this (from 6R or T6), but it depends on the following.

BCM
You have a BCM High, and I'm afraid to operate the cruise control buttons on the steering wheel ...

Image :lol:... patience.
Right at this moment I am trying to figure out some adaptations and encodings, but it will take time and maybe I not get to find out.
Wow, that sounds great! Thank you very much! The plugs of the new airbag und the buttons fits on the 6R? lock together and wiring the 2 cables?

Im searching for 5G0880201J Airbags with the option "for multifunction".

Do you think i need also this?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/181847325160?_tr ... EBIDX%3AIT

regards from Germany :)
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ebay.es http://www.ebay.es/itm/NEU-ORIGINAL-VW- ... SwLnlWm5dD Read the description in German. :wink:

I just discovered something new :shock: 8) .
To make work cruise control system on steering wheel buttons you will have to do some changes to the CCS original wiring (T41).
I will update the information in my first previous message. when be possible...
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ciclo wrote:ebay.es http://www.ebay.es/itm/NEU-ORIGINAL-VW- ... SwLnlWm5dD Read the description in German. :wink:

I just discovered something new :shock: 8) .
To make work cruise control system on steering wheel buttons you will have to do some changes to the CCS original wiring (T41).
I will update the information in my first previous message. when be possible...
Yes, the same seller i saw on ebay... his location is in poland, so i think i will get the airbag for around 150€ or less incl. shipping and the wiring... ultra nice 8) 8)

with ccs you mean the cruise-controll-stalk? "Lenkstockhalter" in german :lol:
with the 6c-stalks i will get new problems with the cruise-controll, right? so you will do it with the oem 6r ccs?
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CCS = Cruise Control System.
It's a simple exchange of wires on the connector T41... obligatory for the steering wheel you bought.
6C stalks are not possible.

Why you bought Golf GTD MFSW with white lighting?.. and cruise control on buttons? Maybe you need to spend a lot of money to make everything work as it should with that steering wheel.
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That sounds good with the wire. I bought it because there is no polo GTD, so want make my own GTD. I'm looking for a Ibiza 2.0 tdi. I would like to install the 2.0 tdi in my Polo with the gearbox, mounts, and so on. in Germany aren't so many VW Freaks... Also not for engine. DarkSideDevelopments in the UK or VVT Tuning in Holland will be the aim in the way to complete my GTD.

I thought the white lights in the Steering Wheel could be a Great Solution with the GTI -Cluster, this is white too.

Only because everybody has red leds must i do this too?
I think it could be also looking nice :-)
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Ok, good project. 8)
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saty wrote:Nice work on fitting the carbon airbox, did you notice much of a difference after fitting it?
What work was involved to turn the battery 90 degrees?
My 1.6 tdi pushing similar power as yours, 145bhp/320nm :)

Here are some pictures. Here you can see the 3 points were i fixed the new holder.

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Re: 6R 1.6 TDI Stage 2

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All the Pictures are broken for me. :cry: Would really like to see them! Nice Project!
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wrecksigge wrote:All the Pictures are broken for me. :cry: Would really like to see them! Nice Project!
If you are a registered user of http://www.polo6rfreunde.de/, and you logged, miraculously can see the pictures here.Image
Edited again...sorry, it's a time of new discoveries. :lol:
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ciclo wrote:
wrecksigge wrote:All the Pictures are broken for me. :cry: Would really like to see them! Nice Project!
If you are a registered user of http://www.polo6rfreunde.de/, and you logged, miraculously can see the pictures here.Image
Edited again...sorry, it's a time of new discoveries. :lol:
Hey ciclo, today i got my new steering Wheel, next week i will get the airbag.

At first i have to install the 2 new wires. After changing the stalks to "6R0953507" i install the steering Wheel und the new Airbag.

Do you think that perhaps a few buttons will work with the original BCM? Next month i will Change the bcm to complete this project.

I saw that it is possible to install the automatic high beam. Is it with the new bcm possible?
With the new steering wheel i will install the black interior from the GTI 8)

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