retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R

Post by **iichel** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:52 pm

ag69 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:16 am
iichel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:17 pm So, some kessy update..

...
sir,
you are amazing.
bow down to your dedication and finding way to achieve this.

Bow to spacewalker, the man posting above here. He did the difficult part of learning the keys.

oscar89 · Post by **oscar89** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:55 pm

iichel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:28 pm updated VCDS coding

Code: Select all

Tuesday,28,February,2017,13:53:50:62066
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86(VMWare)
VCDS Version 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345

VIN:   License Plate: 



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Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 05 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2B 2E 37 3C 44 47 55 56
          61 69 6C 77 0B

VIN:   Mileage: 0km-0miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J000-CFWA)       Labels: 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
   Part No SW: 03P 906 021 B    HW: 03P 907 425 
   Component: R3 1.2l TDI   H06 9978  
   Revision: 12005001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114036033401080000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B 001041
   ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AA.rod
   VCID: 2757FDE35E1F667988-8073

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding:
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 55AB872B38F324E9EA-8001

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0346244897
   Coding: 000F0F
   Shop #: WSC 01342 020 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_VW01.rod
   VCID: 37772DA38EBFF6F918-8063

1 Fault Found:
1057799 - Antenna for Keyless Entry System in Trunk 
          B1173 11 [008] - Short to Ground
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2017.02.28
                    Time: 01:41:03


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0812  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 38752E9F8BA1F98111-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733  
   Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 092150183
   Coding: 3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD080A073EFE08D78D020E050032800
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 68D5BEDF9B81A90141-803D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 140415 03  37  0059 
   Coding: 0714DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8611 
   Serial number: KU0KU011111300010103
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8611 
   Serial number: KU0KU007111300016463
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H03 0103 
   Serial number: 27140002547420014516
   Coding: A4FFFF

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 B    HW: 6R0 959 811 B
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  002 0803 
   Serial number: KU0-KU008.06.0910897
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 B    HW: 6R0 959 812 B
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  002 0803 
   Serial number: KU0-KU004.06.0913330
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0106  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231422402620
   Coding: 318001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS.rod
   VCID: 3B7F3193B297D299FC-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX0142TCE
   Coding: 00314D
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4A916457ED4D7B1177-801F

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40650BI7U48C8

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB405J09RECEOUJ

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405T0BTBEF9G7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405R0BTBEKPFQ

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A    HW: 6R0 920 870 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 336F19B39AC71AD924-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0733  
   Revision: B9080001    
   Coding: 042201
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 68D5BEDF9B81A90141-803D

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels: 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G    HW: 7E0 857 511 E
   Component: FLA           H10 0003  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 040C00E200000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
   VCID: 2E5908C771E537314B-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 09402 015 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6AD1C4D78D8D9B1157-803F

2 Faults Found:
9456681 - Key 
          B104C 29 [009] - Implausible Signal
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2017.02.28
                    Time: 01:41:06

10493440 - Function Limitation due to Missing Enable from OCU/VTS 
          B201E 00 [009] -  - 
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2017.02.28
                    Time: 01:41:05


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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 B    HW: 5K0 905 861 B
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 11000256123005
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 2F6715C376EF3E3940-807B

2 Faults Found:
1048838 - Terminal 15 
          B1148 12 [137] - Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2017.02.28
                    Time: 01:37:56

                    ELV State: 04
                    Information Clamps: 67 20
                    CoCo State: B0 01
                    WFS State: 10 1A
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Voltage: 68

1048840 - Terminal 15 Redundancy 
          B11D6 12 [137] - Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2017.02.28
                    Time: 01:37:56

                    ELV State: 04
                    Information Clamps: 67 20
                    CoCo State: B0 01
                    WFS State: 10 1A
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Voltage: 68


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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666620365    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 2B5F01D34AF742196C-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 6276  
   Coding: 00070002010000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 366920A781B50FF103-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V14  

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 3C: Lane Change        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 566 B    HW: 4L0 907 566 A
   Component: J0769 SWA MasterH14 0120  
   Revision: 00H14000    Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-07
   Coding: 0010161
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 2F6715C3BEEF3E3940-807B

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7E0 907 568 B
   Component: J0770 SWA Slave H09 0110

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-27

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 5F31.03.1100H090003CH21982ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: H21982ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11220
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6715C3EAEF3E3940-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C    HW: 5C6 035 456 C
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098C0000052
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4 001001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4.rod
   VCID: 2855FEDF5301690181-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0192000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77F7EDA3CE3F36F9D8-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 6276  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
   Coding: 00070002010000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 366920A781B50FF103-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V14  8477 

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: Batt.regelung H80 0733  
   Serial number: 0771 092150183
   Coding: 03071A5A
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 68D5BEDF9B81A90141-803D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181     HW: 6C0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
   Serial number: 61083A44504351928092

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 E    HW: 1K0 907 383 E
   Component: Anhaenger     H07 0080  
   Revision: 3A002002    Serial number: 00000116932377
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 2F6715C37EEF3E3940-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 441     HW: 7E0 907 441 
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: 00H08000    Serial number: 525PA8-J060533
   Coding: 0030115
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 65CBB7EBAC93B4697A-8031

1 Fault Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E    HW: 3C8 035 730 E
   Component: Telefon       025 0983  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105254406
   Coding: 020100000100010000000101
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
   ROD: EV_UHVPremi_002.rod
   VCID: 254BF7EB24137469BA-8071

No fault code found.

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result with normal ignition lock:
if ignition is on, it says in the segment display 'no key'.

also, if there is something wrong with the kessy it says 'check keyless'. very neat.

Car now unlocks when ignition is switched off, instead of key removal.

Problem with the converter box/BCM wiring: http://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 80#p518773

hello, i saw your post with the following fault code:

10493440 - Function Limitation due to Missing Enable from OCU/VTS
B201E 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 0 km
Date: 2017.02.28
Time: 01:41:05

last week i changed my cluster with kessy from white/black to 3d from new scirocco facelift. now in the new cluster i get this error message to, how did you fix this?

Post by **iichel** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:00 am

Adapt keys to immo, that should solve it. I'm not sure why it's fixed for me, to be honest

oscar89 · Post by **oscar89** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:38 am

iichel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:00 am Adapt keys to immo, that should solve it. I'm not sure why it's fixed for me, to be honest

keys were adopted, tested on the bench, only in the car i get this error?

Post by **iichel** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:43 am

oscar89 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:38 am
iichel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:00 am Adapt keys to immo, that should solve it. I'm not sure why it's fixed for me, to be honest
keys were adopted, tested on the bench, only in the car i get this error?

Error returns after you clear it? Then maybe adapt keys in the car and not on the bench?

spacewalker · Post by **spacewalker** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:01 pm

oscar89 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:38 am
iichel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:00 am Adapt keys to immo, that should solve it. I'm not sure why it's fixed for me, to be honest
keys were adopted, tested on the bench, only in the car i get this error?

when you swap cluster to currently working keesy car , no need to do anything with key learn.
but when you rebuilt kessy , then must learn all ,even sometime ELV must be re-adapt
already told you what to do , but seems you waste my time and try to find other way to fix

Post by **iichel** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:04 pm

I'm happy to report that the keyless starting is completely working. Kessy module (address) coded is 000F0F.
The keyless entry is not working currently. The coding for this must be 03C0C0. Then it gives an error for the door handle (implausible signal, short to ground, open circuit).
Remember I have four kessy door handles, parallel mounted (front to rear).

I'll have to measure and check the wiring in the coming days.

The final adaptation of the keyless start was possible due to the xhorse iscancar MM-007 and the knowledge of the PIN and CS bytes.

It was a difficult trip so far, but I'm happy it's coming to an end. My big thanks to spacewalker for the support (time, effort and use of equipment).

I'll update when the wiring of the handles is checked.

Post by **ciclo** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:20 pm

Congrats!!

Waiting for the update.

Post by **iichel** » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:09 am

Remove front to rear door connections and all is well

Pave · Post by **Pave** » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:06 pm

Very nice

diskoboy · Post by **diskoboy** » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:17 pm

Fantastic!

Before I've even start on this project - what are the requirements to the instrument/immobilizer? I have the 'small' one from 1.6 TDI...

Post by **iichel** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:24 am

Electronic steering column lock
Kessy module
Cluster from donor car
Two door handles
New keys
A lot of wiring

An expert to help you out

diskoboy · Post by **diskoboy** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:41 am

Cluster - one of the expensive parts... how much did this project cost you? (Both time and money)

Post by **ciclo** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:12 am

Post by **iichel** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:25 am

diskoboy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:41 am Cluster - one of the expensive parts... how much did this project cost you? (Both time and money)

Oh I really stopped counting the time.
Money wise a wild guess:
ELV €50
Cluster €200
Kessy module €50
Door handles €100
Connectors €100
Keys €180
External expertise so far €100
The smile on your face when it all works out: priceless

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