ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.🤝

[ciclo]

So then I reconnect 5F to drive (powertrain) can bus (this can bus have 512kbps baudrate) and viola 5f module is working now.Tomorrow I will to play with bcm params.

In that case, have you tried connecting it to the new* CAN line of Instrument cluster for PQ25 (7E0)?

FYI: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing

*New in case you install it.

[ciclo]

tested the ch37! thanks. thats improved alot.and yes. i agreed. feel like it does have delay to switch the light on. which channel shud do the trick and by how much? appreciate your sharing


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Channel 35, set to 1 to test, and tell us your opinion about it.

Maybe I set this channel to 0.

[explorer232]

So then I reconnect 5F to drive (powertrain) can bus (this can bus have 512kbps baudrate) and viola 5f module is working now.Tomorrow I will to play with bcm params.

In that case, have you tried connecting it to the new* CAN line of Instrument cluster for PQ25 (7E0)?

FYI: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing

*New in case you install it.

Hi, at the moment no, but this test is in the plan (I have prepared new cable). I think that it could work because in standard 6r0 pq25 gateway is instrument cluster connected to powertrain bus so speed of the cluster is 512kbps but I need test if all needed messages are sending via pq25 can bus. I have still problem that mib unit doesnt detect terminal 15 state (terminal 15 state in mib units is readed via can bus only for understanding) but problem is probably that not all 12v input signals (for ignition switch simulation) are connected to 7e0 bcm in actual config.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2m6lh0z.jpg

[iichel]

the 7E0 BCM detects terminal 15 on via SB10 on Polo 6R, to T73a/44

[ciclo]

Hi, at the moment no, but this test is in the plan (I have prepared new cable). I think that it could work because in standard 6r0 pq25 gateway is instrument cluster connected to powertrain bus so speed of the cluster is 512kbps but I need test if all needed messages are sending via pq25 can bus. I have still problem that mib unit doesnt detect terminal 15 state (terminal 15 state in mib units is readed via can bus only for understanding) but problem is probably that not all 12v input signals (for ignition switch simulation) are connected to 7e0 bcm in actual config.

We had a similar problem when we installed the new MFSW models in our 6Rs. We solve it when installing the new BCMs (2015 --->).

Volkswagen has already used these IC CAN lines for the radios in some of its models.

Please, open a new forum topic in this same section dedicated to 6R/6C.
Maybe there are more people who are very interested in participating in this matter. Thank you.

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I do not understand why you want to continue using your old BCM being able to adapt with some few wires the new 7E0 BCM in your Seat Toledo. For me it does not make sense for this job/tests that you are trying to do.

In this picture you can see that your old BCM 6R0 937 087 H does not have the 54,57 pins in the white connector 'B'
(do not take into account the pins in white, that is relative to the CCS)

[explorer232]

the 7E0 BCM detects terminal 15 on via SB10 on Polo 6R, to T73a/44

Only this one I have connected - if not connected bcm is off.

But there is also
T73a/42 signal (86s), ignition switch
T73a/54 signal (75a), ignition switch
T73b/51 signal (75a), ignition switch

At the evening I will try to connect these. I doesnt know as its implemented in firmware but MIB-PQ (for pq platform) is working with this bcm and terminal 15 is controling only via can bus also.

We had a similar problem when we installed the new MFSW models in our 6Rs. We solve it when installing the new BCMs (2015 --->).

You known that I am testing mib unit with 7e0937090b bcm with new fw 0744 so there isnt problem with bcm.
I will retrofit this bcm to car but firstly I need to test it because I dont have too much time sitting in the car and laboring why it isnt working.

When you disassembly 6r0937087H bcm you can see that there are holes for unpopulated pins so everything is possible

Volkswagen has already used these IC CAN lines for the radios in some of its models.

Thanks for info

Please, open a new forum topic in this same section dedicated to 6R/6C.
Maybe there are more people who are very interested in participating in this matter. Thank you.

OK

(I do not understand why you want to continue using your old BCM being able to adapt with some few wires the new 7E0 BCM in your Seat Toledo. For me it does not make sense for this job/tests that you are trying to do)

I have seat ibiza not toledo and dashboard in Ibiza have different size, standard vw head unit like rns, mib-pq ... is not fittable without dashboard modification so I want retrofit mib std from mqb leon because this one is smaller and display unit is fittable and as I wrote I want to use 7e0 bcm. In my configuration is 7e0 bcm but this one is manufactured in Mexico so there is white sticker.

[ciclo]

OK understood. Sorry for the confusion of ibiza/toledo ... I do not know what the hell I was thinking.

In case it is useful for you, (at least it serves as a clue)

[benzinkopf]

tested the ch37! thanks. thats improved alot.and yes. i agreed. feel like it does have delay to switch the light on. which channel shud do the trick and by how much? appreciate your sharing


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Channel 35, set to 1 to test, and tell us your opinion about it.

Maybe I set this channel to 0.

Hello my friend! Yes. I did change the channel value from 2 to 1 yesterday. Im sorry for the delay review because im still testing it to see the different. With ch37 set to 95, ch36 to 1, i feel like the activation time is pretty much the same but i do think the turn-off process (after the turning) feel faster. is the same channel 36 responsible for both activation and deactivation?


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[ciclo]

... can you please read the channel number I wrote? Thanks ... but these thanks is for making me smile.

36 is for deactivation delay.

[benzinkopf]

... can you please read the channel number I wrote? Thanks ... but these thanks is for making me smile.

36 is for deactivation delay.

oh my oh my oh my!!!!!!!!!!! [emoji15][emoji15][emoji102][emoji1328]‍♂️🤪


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[ciclo]

[benzinkopf]

after all these retrofit projects ive done. i wonder how i am able to pick and point the right BCM pins and number while not able to simply read channel 35!!!! im amazed.

Thanks for keep correcting me!!!!


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[firegrafik]

I did change the channel value from 2 to 1 yesterday. Im sorry for the delay review because im still testing it to see the different. With ch37 set to 95, ch36 to 1, i feel like the activation time is pretty much the same but i do think the turn-off process (after the turning) feel faster. is the same channel 36 responsible for both activation and deactivation?


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There is some adapt channels descritions below, which came from VagCanPro descriptions concerning corner lights on PQ25 BCM

31 channel
From this speed on the cornering light is available
Dimension: 1 km/h,
Allowable value limits: 0…20,
Default value: 0, that mean the corner works even if car is stopped if you make this value more than 0 it will work only while car is moving

32 channel
Until this speed cornering light is available (beware hysteresis + — 5km/h!)
Dimension: 1 km/h,
Allowable value limits: 20…80,
Default value: 40, that means coner light stop working on speed higher than 40km/h

33 channel
Activite the corner light on at this steering angle (speed influence)
Dimension: 1 degree,
Allowable value limits: 0…254,
Default value: 80, that means coner light works when steering wheel turn on 80 or more degrees
was discovered by ciclo long before
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&p=517482#p517482

34 channel
Deactivite the corner light on at this steering angle (speed influence)
Dimension: 1 degree,
Allowable value limits: 0…254,
Default value: 30, that means corner light stops working when steering wheel turn on 30 or less degrees
was discovered by ciclo long before
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&p=517482#p517482

35 channel
Time until cornering light gets full brightness completely
Dimension: 0,25 sec,
Allowable value limits: 0…8,
Default value: 2, that means coner light gets full brightness in a 0,5 sec

36 channel
Time until cornering light has faded out completely
Dimension: 0,5 sec,
Allowable value limits: 0…8,
Default value: 2, that means coner has faded out in a 1,0 sec
Maximum brightness after fadin in

37 channel
Maximum brightness of the corner light after it gets full brightness
Dimension: 1 %,
Allowable value limits: 0…100,
Default value: 80, that means coner will get only 80% max brightness

[benzinkopf]

thanks to you too firegrafik! btw. i think i saw your post about this before. which is useful. do you know any settings to deactivate the interior light faster when we open the door too long?


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[benzinkopf]

btw. not sure whether this is new or not. but just to share the creativity of some creator in china!


if autolight is not fancy enough! why not put bluetooth to control the timing, update the software and read light errors as well as read the battery voltage!! wow. [emoji15]🤪


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