I've always wondered this. Why does the Polo GTI have a 6 speed DSG? Is it one of these two things?
1) It's too expensive
2) It wouldn't fit
Would you expect the facelift Polo GTI in 2021-2022 to have the 7 speed DSG?
Why does the Polo GTI have a 6 speed DSG?
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Re: Why does the Polo GTI have a 6 speed DSG?
Dsg7 sucks thats why. Is has problems all these years. So in higher performance best dsg.
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Re: Why does the Polo GTI have a 6 speed DSG?
Multiple possibilities.
1. Finite manufacturing capacity so that only so many of each of the 6 and 7 speed wet clutch variants can be manufactured. Some cars get priority for the 7 speed variant e.g Golf 7.5 and 8 performance variants.
2. Cost. I would imagine the 7 speed units comes at a higher price, although when you could still get manual variant of 7.5 Golf R, the price differential between manual and DSG was £1450, same as it was for Golf GTI where the 6 speed DSG was still an option.
3. No real economy gain. 7.5 Golf GTI and R variants have a taller 7th gear for economy gains. They have extra torque over the Polo GTI - taller gearing without the torque to handle it won't give you better economy.
The Golf GTD only had access to the 6 speed wet clutch DSG. Tall gearing on that already due to the torque available, likely no decent gains in having that 7th cog.
The Polo GTI has quite tall gearing - at 80mph, the Polo is doing 2400rpm in 6th, the Golf GTD 6th at 80 is about 2200rpm, my old Golf R manual was 3100rpm in 6th at 80 (same as old 6 speed DSG), but the new 7 speed DSG R is about 2700rpm in 7th at 80. Gains to be had with the R, but not the Polo. The 7 speed R's fuel economy is quite a bit better than the 6 speed DSG R.
All comments above relate to the wet clutch variants of the 6 (DQ250) and 7 speed DSG box, not the dry clutch 7 speed box (DQ200) that VAG currently fit to models under 170ps.
1. Finite manufacturing capacity so that only so many of each of the 6 and 7 speed wet clutch variants can be manufactured. Some cars get priority for the 7 speed variant e.g Golf 7.5 and 8 performance variants.
2. Cost. I would imagine the 7 speed units comes at a higher price, although when you could still get manual variant of 7.5 Golf R, the price differential between manual and DSG was £1450, same as it was for Golf GTI where the 6 speed DSG was still an option.
3. No real economy gain. 7.5 Golf GTI and R variants have a taller 7th gear for economy gains. They have extra torque over the Polo GTI - taller gearing without the torque to handle it won't give you better economy.
The Golf GTD only had access to the 6 speed wet clutch DSG. Tall gearing on that already due to the torque available, likely no decent gains in having that 7th cog.
The Polo GTI has quite tall gearing - at 80mph, the Polo is doing 2400rpm in 6th, the Golf GTD 6th at 80 is about 2200rpm, my old Golf R manual was 3100rpm in 6th at 80 (same as old 6 speed DSG), but the new 7 speed DSG R is about 2700rpm in 7th at 80. Gains to be had with the R, but not the Polo. The 7 speed R's fuel economy is quite a bit better than the 6 speed DSG R.
All comments above relate to the wet clutch variants of the 6 (DQ250) and 7 speed DSG box, not the dry clutch 7 speed box (DQ200) that VAG currently fit to models under 170ps.