Central locking and key 6R0 937 087 F

[amer6R]

Hi guys, do you know do all polos 6r come as standard with central locking?
I have a standard key ( not a flip one)
My car has 4x el windows and my car also has a lock unlock switch on the drivers door cart.

I have bought a replacement flip key 434 mhz.
Do you know what is the procedure for pairing a new key ( just lock and unlock buttons) ?
Can i try it via VCDS cuz its UDS

Or does the polo 6r use 433 mhz key?

Polo 2010 1.6 tdi 90ps

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[iichel]

You should have the coding correct for central locking with remote (i.e. byte 1, 3, 7)

Remote matching (not immo, but remote locking): http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... rol_Module
You cannot use they used key to start your car, unless you program the immobiliser OR move the immi chip to the new key. This is compleys and I'm not an expert.
I'd recommend to read all info carefully.

[exantas]

Do all 6R come with min 086 BCM?

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[amer6R]

Guys,
Today i tried to adapt the key ( ok immo i transfered chip)

When I try to change the value of keys from 0 to 1 and test it still remains at 0. It doest want to accept it.

In coding central locking was already checked.

I have a cobra alarm fitted it also has central locking, maybe its blocking it or what?



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[iichel]

Is your bcm perhaps too low? I.e. 6R0 937 085

[amer6R]

Is your bcm perhaps too low? I.e. 6R0 937 085

Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Control Module Part Number: 6R0 937 087 F
Component and/or Version: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0221
Software Coding: 6CB02BBF08210048003006007D2B0C900000410F60860000200000000000
Work Shop Code: WSC 00387
VCID: 408FF507D383CA4FE7-8014

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 F HW: 6R0 937 087
Component: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0221
Revision: BF046001 Serial number: 0345 245100816
Coding: 6CB02BBF08210048003006007D2B0C900000410F60860000200000000000
Shop #: WSC 00387 618 55704
VCID: 408FF507D383CA4FE7-8014

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 R HW: 6R0 959 801 R Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 0903
Serial number: KU0-KU006.09.1012954
Coding: 18BC30

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 T HW: 6R0 959 802 T Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU007.09.1017359
Coding: 08BC30

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F HW: 6R0 959 811 F
Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU002.09.1012386
Coding: 08BC32

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F HW: 6R0 959 812 F
Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU031.08.1014836
Coding: 08BC32



I had a car with central locking and flip key his HW was
6R0 937 087 D

[iichel]

Your BCM should be perfectly capable of central locking via key fob, no problem.

[amer6R]

Maybe the cobra alarm is interfering, central locking works via cobra key fob


can you maybe tell me, cause i wasn't really tinkering in VCDS can i maybe enable the hill assist my ABS module is:
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ABS82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AB HW: 6R0 907 379 AB
Component: ABS8.2 front H03 0001
Revision: --------
Coding: 200200E3006D00B3042A00EA00D600000000
Shop #: WSC 04941 123 12345
VCID: 7EF34BFFEDF77CBFD5-802A

somewhere i found a tutorial to retrofit the ESP button, but i cant find the topic

Thank you by the way!

[iichel]

I don't know if ABS8.2 can do hill hold control. Try this coding: 200200E3006D00B3042A00EA00D600000200
Perhaps it enables HHC, perhaps it enables TPMS. I don't know.

[amer6R]

I will check it under long coding helper options, thank you!

[amer6R]

I've been reading thru the forum now im completely confused:

There are two versions of the brakes control units. Bosch 8,2 and Bosch 9,0.
Bosch8,2 came for cars up to 06.2012 year.
Bosch9,0 came for cars since 06.2012 year.

The versions has some differences in socket wiring and codings:
There is possible to retrofit ESP9.0 instead of ESP8.2.
Some guys in Russia retrofit ESP9.0 instead of ABS8.2.
But I am not sure is the 8.2 could be retrofitted instead of 9.0 because of possible incompatibility with wheels sensors.

Here is information which I collected and systematized concerning Polo's ABS with ESP coding calculating. The sourses were Polo hatches an polo sedans in Russia. extra Skoda Fabia
For simple ABS this could be helpful also, but as a rule some bytes in simple ABS have values 00
This coding description is not a final version, If you will find a differences or mistakes please write I will correct it. At least the variants for right-side steering wheel should be added

ESP8,2
0 Byte, define the model of the car and the body type: 21 – Polo hatch; 51 – Polo sedan; 41– Fabia;
1 Byte, define the model of the car too: 01– Fabia; 02 – Polo;
2 Byte, define the brake types:

• 24 – if the front 256mm disk and rear 200mm drum
  28 – if the front 256mm disk and rear 232mm disk
  44 – if the front 288mm disk and rear 200mm drum
  48 – if the front 288mm disk and rear 232mm disk

3 Byte, unknown. DB – Fabia; C2 – Polo
4 Byte, transmition type: 41 – automatic; 21 manual
5 Byte, depends on 13th digit of the VIN (see below)
6 Byte, unknown . 00
7 Byte, depends on 14th digit of the VIN (see below)
8 Byte, binary inverted value of the 0 Byte: 84 – Polo hatch; 8A – Polo sedan; 82– Fabia
9 Byte, depends on 15th digit of the VIN (see below)
10 Byte, binary inverted value of the 2 Byte: (24/14/22/12)
11 Byte, depends on 16th digit of the VIN (see below)
12 Byte, binary inverted value of the 4 Byte: (82/84)
13 Byte, depends on 17th digit of the VIN (see below)
14 Byte, binary inverted value of the 6 Byte: 00
15 Byte, define the engine type and steering wheel side:

• 40 – BXW/CGGB/CBZB/CGPA/CBZA/CHFA/CFNA left-side steering wheel
  42 – CAYB left-side steering wheel
  52 – CFWA left-side steering wheel

16 Byte, define additional functions: 10 – default

• Bit 0 – Hill Hold Control (HHC) activation
  Bit 1 – Tire Pressure Monitoring (RKA) activation
  Bit 2 – XDS activation

17 Byte, unknown 00




ESP9,0
0 Byte, define the model of the car and the body type: 21 – Polo hatch; 51 – Polo sedan;41 – Fabia
1 Byte, define the model of the car too: DD – Polo;DC – Fabia
2 Byte, define the brake types:

• 2C – if the front 256mm disk and rear 200mm drum
  28 – if the front 256mm disk and rear 232mm disk
  44 – if the front 288mm disk and rear 200mm drum
  48 – if the front 288mm disk and rear 232mm disk
  68 – if the front 310mm disk and rear 232mm disk
  78 – if the front 310mm disk and rear 254mm disk

3 Byte, unknown. 85 - Polo hatch 64 – Polo sedan;7D – Fabia
4 Byte, transmition type: 41 – automatic; 21 manual
5 Byte, depends on 13th digit of the VIN (see below)
6 Byte, unknown . 00 - Polo hatch; 07 - Polo sedan;08 - Fabia
7 Byte, depends on 14th digit of the VIN (see below)
8 Byte, binary inverted value of the 0 Byte: 84 – Polo hatch; 8A – Polo sedan; 82– Fabia
9 Byte, depends on 15th digit of the VIN (see below)
10 Byte, binary inverted value of the 2 Byte: (34/14/22/12/16/1E)
11 Byte, depends on 16th digit of the VIN (see below)
12 Byte, binary inverted value of the 4 Byte: (82/84)
13 Byte, depends on 17th digit of the VIN (see below)
14 Byte, binary inverted value of the 6 Byte: (00/E0/10)
15 Byte, define the engine type and steering wheel side:

• 40 – BXW/CGGB/CBZB/CGPA/CBZA/CHFA/CFNA left-side steering wheel and not sure below for this byte
  42 – CAYB left-side steering wheel52 – CFWA left-side steering wheel

16 Byte, define additional functions:

• 08 – default with ESP-button deactivates ASR only
  14 – default with ESP-button deactivates ESC fully
  • Bit 0 – Hill Hold Control (HHC)activation

17 Byte, define additional functions: 00 – default
Bit 0 – Tire Pressure Monitoring (RKA) activation
Bit 2 – XDS activation



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In Vcds under long coding none of the bits are described, and using this guide my Long coding should start 21... not 20

On other topic(viewtopic.php?f=56&t=62393), 1.6 TDI 90 ps user has EPS 8.2 but with hold assist but:
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 R HW: 6R0 907 379 R
Component: ESP8.2i front H04 0002
Revision: --------
Coding: 210228E3417400B4842714E582D900421300
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 00000
VCID: 4D918FBF1024C5762F5-8018

They key still doesn't want to work: I hold the unlock button for few seconds VCDS seems to become unresponsive but still 0 keys. New value wont accept nothing than "0" , Test : 0, Save, unlock on keyfob nothing... :\

Can i remote match via ODIS?

[amer6R]

Update, Only ABS 8.2i and higher supports HHA
I found a calculator, i generated long coding starting with 21 - my ABS module didnt accept

Today i scanned the car again got this fault:

01179 - Incorrect Key Proggraming
-Im not sure if this popped up when i tried the non immo key in the car

I was digging in long coding:
bit Remote control inactive was checked - I unchecked it - Tried the procedure again - no luck

Is there a way to enable PRL, so my low beams are allways on when i turn my car on, and off when i turn it off?

Could someone check this old coding for BCM (09), and adapt it for central locking?
6CB02BBF08210048003006007D2B0C900000410F60860000200000000000

[iichel]

210228E3417400B4842714E582D900421300

Hill hold is already activated

Try this for your BCM please

3CB02FBF08210024003006007D2B0C900000410F60860000200000000000

[amer6R]

Your coding my BCM didnt want to accept. But finally i got it to work and i paired my key and everything works!
Tomorrow i will post a video od overview for coding for BCM and coding for this F module. Maybe it will help someone else.

Again my ABS wont accept the coding, only ABS 8.2i supports hill assist.
My abs is 8.2, i dont need HHA , but it is a neat feature.



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[amer6R]

Hi guys,
I will sum up this topic. Central locking can be activated on BCM 6R0 937 087 F.
My car came from factory with this key:

I wanted to have central locking, so i bought a flip remote key ( 5K0837202AD ):
Link for buying the key -Aliexpress - Excellent quality
434 mhz
id48
blade type HAA
- Get your blade cut, and program the immo chip inside of the key or transfer the old one.

Next programing the BCM module, since the car came without Central Locking this option was disabled via coding by dealer ( i guess cost saving)
Old coding:

Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 F HW: 6R0 937 087
Component: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0221
Revision: BF046001 Serial number: 0345 245100816
Coding: 6CB02BBF08210048003006007D2B0C900000410F60860000200000000000
Shop #: WSC 00387 618 55704
VCID: 408FF507D383CA4FE7-8014

Since I want to make this tutorial a bit universal i made a video of every checked bits(box) for central locking, you cal also copy my coding from the video if you have the same module 6R0 937 087 F . You are interested in "central" bits and comfort functions if you want to oper or close your doors via key fob. Copying coding from other versions of module is not compatible.



6CB02FBF08210040003006807D2B0C900000411F60860000200000000000

Okay, now when we have our BCM coded out, we need to start remote key matching procedure. So go to 09- Central eletronics -> Adaptations
Follow the procedure like in video:

I had an issue where i input the value of new keys ( New value) and i test it it becomes 0, and you cant save. So just add 0, test, save -> Then Hold the unlock button for 1-2s and your car will give your a notification via blinker that the key is paired.