Nithish's Polo 6R(Ameo) 1.5TDI

nithishsabapathi · Post by **nithishsabapathi** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:10 pm

Hai All,

My daily drive is a VW Ameo, A car which is created specially to comply with a weird govt. rule wherein the cars which come under 4 meters in length will enjoy a lower tax slab.
The Ameo is essentially a shortened version Polo 6R Sedan with the wheel base of a polo 6R Hatch.
I have been amazed to see people doing crazy retrofits to their cars and I am delighted to be a part of this community.
I am new to this retrofitting world and have done some retrofits in my car:

1. Installed a MFSW Steering wheel.
2. Upgraded the Stock radio(RCD320) to a OEM Visteon RCD330 Unit and installed the OEM reverse camera.
3. A Maxidot Cluster from a Seat Toledo with SW0607 and HWH16(Installation In progress).
4. Cruise Control System.

Planned Retrofits as of now:
1. Gra-HIGH Activation(If possible)
2. 8k OPS(Parts are on their way)
3. BCM Max and associated retrofits like TPMS,etc.
and finally a DQ200 DSG/ AQ250 Torque converter in the future

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nithishsabapathi · Post by **nithishsabapathi** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:15 pm

I Need some assistance in enabling Gra- High in my car,
my car has the following ECU:
Continental 03L 907 425B Diesel SIMOS PCR21.
A Seat Toledo Cluster with SW 0607.
Can the Gra-High be activated on the above ECU and the Cluster combination or do i need any emulator to do this?
Any assistance would be helpful.

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Post by **iichel** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:03 pm

Some pictures would be nice

ag69 · Post by **ag69** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:52 am

By the time Nithish adds his ameo photo and scans , here is link which has some photos from different angles.
https://www.motorscribes.com/features/a ... t-to-catch

nithishsabapathi · Post by **nithishsabapathi** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:53 am

Sorry Guys! Bit caught up with work. Adding photos to the original post.
Here is my current Auto-scan:

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VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64



VIN:    License Plate:
Mileage: 44310km-27532mi   Repair Order: 1



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Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (6RU)
Scan: 01 03 09 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN:    Mileage: 44310km-27532miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CWXC)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 RS    HW: 03L 907 425 B
   Component: R4 1.5l TDI   H33 9977  
   Revision: --H33---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00110112030500080000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM15TDI02103L906023RS 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM15TDI02103L906023QT.rod
   VCID: 081F2D27B33332C64A-805C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 CA    HW: 6R0 907 379 AQ
   Component: ABS9.0 front  H01 0004  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 60DD2763412718C30614E472825518020000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 08192
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH 003017
   ROD: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH_VW25.rod
   VCID: 7F0DB6FBE6FD757E7B-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6RU 937 086 P    HW: 6RU 937 086 
   Component: BCM IM M+4    H41 0444  
   Revision: BY041001    Serial number: 8600 195170306
   Coding: 3AB02BBF08A10400003800002C2814100000400F60040000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 6ED37BBFB9970CF6E0-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DF    HW: 6R0 959 802 DF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  022 1552 
   Serial number: 13202722170405182516
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DD    HW: 6R0 959 801 DD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  022 1552 
   Serial number: 13202723170328055455
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442     HW: 6C0 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023 
   Serial number: 2451607460200844AB2B
   Coding: 240000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 S    HW: 6R0 959 811 S
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  022 1552 
   Serial number: 13102728170509121731
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 S    HW: 6R0 959 812 S
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  022 1552 
   Serial number: 13102729170425235133
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU0S H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW01AK8Z$
   Coding: 003053
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4999E823E8B90BCE95-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RF 920 862 B    HW: 6RF 920 862 B
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0217  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 1508000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05729
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4B95D22BE2C519DEA7-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RU 909 901     HW: 6RU 937 086 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H41 0444  
   Revision: BY041001    
   Coding: 002300
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 193978631099BB4EE5-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0217  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADB77AF8D7FE0D6BC-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4189F003D089C38E4D-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RF 035 187 C    HW: 6RF 035 187 C
   Component: Radio         557 5516  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZ7Z2S0100594
   Coding: 0E000440000001
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   VCID: 4999E823E0B90BCE95-801C

No fault code found.

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patil · Post by **patil** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:43 pm

Hello Nitish... Welcome to the forum

Have you successfully installed Toledo cluster in your Ameo?

patil · Post by **patil** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:08 pm

Regarding GRA high--

Your Simos PCR 2.1 ECU can be read by using tools like Kessv2, FGtech gelatto easily I guess. I am pretty sure there are tools to read and write your ECU without dismantling it. The biggest hurdle is to know if your ECU firmware supports GRA High, if yes then next hurdle is to know the exact address to activate it.

You must find a car having same ecu/engine having GRA preactivated from factory to begin with. You also request for help from Master Ciclo, Slavik, firegrafik... they have done extensive research and work on GRA activation. I think it's a tough job, but you can always give a try.

patil · Post by **patil** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:31 pm

I can say with absolute certainty that it is indeed possible to activate GRA High in your Simos PCR2.1 ECU without need of any kind of emulator.

Ofcourse with the help of right tools and right people.

nithishsabapathi · Post by **nithishsabapathi** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:37 pm

patil wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:43 pm Hello Nitish... Welcome to the forum

Have you successfully installed Toledo cluster in your Ameo?

Hai Patil,
Thanks for the reply!
Yes, I have Installed the Toledo cluster in my Ameo.
Apparently VW has blocked the Installation of USED clusters, so did some workarounds and installed the cluster sucessfully.

patil wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:31 pm I can say with absolute certainty that it is indeed possible to activate GRA High in your Simos PCR2.1 ECU without need of any kind of emulator.

Ofcourse with the help of right tools and right people.

That's Amazing patil, As of now I only have VCDS with me and Aliexpress being banned in our country I've been looking for someone who can read my ECU.

patil · Post by **patil** » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:29 pm

nithishsabapathi wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:37 pm
Yes, I have Installed the Toledo cluster in my Ameo.

Congratulations. I will tell you a secret which only you know... I know exactly who programmed that toledo cluster in your Ameo

You may be wondering how I know.. apparently we live in a same small world

Now go back to him again, your ECU needs to be unlocked before can be read. He will do it on bench and read your ECU file, I've already put a word to him.

Once you get the ECU file, it needs to be edited to enable GRA High and edited file needs to be reflashed again. Honestly I don't know how to do it, I never did on my Polo, Master ciclo did it for me. I think your best bet is Master ciclo.. request him in a humble way he might help you.

Good luck

nithishsabapathi · Post by **nithishsabapathi** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:40 pm

patil wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:29 pm
I know exactly who programmed that toledo cluster in your Ameo

You may be wondering how I know.. apparently we live in a same small world

I was about to ask you this when I saw the pictures of your cluster in his bench and apparently he told me that you had visited him.

Actually we were about to take the dump but it was too late and I left in a hurry

. I'll be visiting him by this weekend and will take the dump.

Will ask Master Ciclo if he can help me.

.

Thanks!

nithishsabapathi · Post by **nithishsabapathi** » Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:29 pm

Guys,
I'm getting an oil lamp error in my cluster, Upon scanning with VCDS, its the error for the Oil level thermal sensor signal High time > maximum.
I have attached the autoscan of my instrument cluster below. Is there any way to solve it or will have to live with it?
I have no other error codes elsewhere. also attaching the images of the error.
https://imgur.com/a/modH4xl

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Monday,25,July,2022,17:18:10:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com




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                Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Control Module Part Number: 6JA 920 940 A    HW: 6JA 920 940 A
  Component and/or Version: KOMBI         H16 0607
           Software Coding: 120A00
            Work Shop Code: WSC 73430 031 00216
              ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716 (SK25)
                       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_SK25.rod
                      VCID: 3A7B87EFBD5F90560C-806E
2 Faults Found:

9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor 
          B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 109
                    Mileage: 51180 km
                    Date: 2081.14.02
                    Time: 09:43:29

13639427 - Please Check Fault Codes in Engine Control Module 
          U101F 00 [009] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 122
                    Mileage: 51591 km
                    Date: 2081.14.07
                    Time: 21:45:44

Thanks!

patil · Post by **patil** » Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:17 pm

nithishsabapathi wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:29 pm Guys,
I'm getting an oil lamp error in my cluster,

Easy

Go to adaptation channels of address 17, in drop down menu search for TOG in the list, click it and then select oil level sensor not connected to cluster, and select do it.
See below:

nithishsabapathi · Post by **nithishsabapathi** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:15 pm

patil wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:17 pm Easy

Thanks Patil, It worked!

til3tsio · Post by **til3tsio** » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:54 pm

nice mini sedan , very interesting variation of polo.

if you want to retrofit direct tpms you will need to update your instruments to 07xx or later.
you can use 0729 firmware from amarok 2h0.
just dit it on my toledo, I have an issue with my mfsw but it is SEAT related, otherwise it is ok

Also I have almost the same ecu , I am interested in GRA-High too

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