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Windshield washer low-level sensor retrofit

Finally, i finished this retrofit. I had all the parts a few months now but i was straggling to find time to finish.
Τhe procedure is known, but a few photos never hurt.

The schematic
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The connector:
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Follow the line:
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Next is the sensor installation.

I removed the wheel housing liner (the plastic part)
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Τhe water container appeared

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The original position of the water sensor is to the lower left of the tank.

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So I did the drilling, fixed the sensor and connected it to the wiring I had already done.

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I routed the wiring and putted back in place the plastic wheel housing liner.

Last it was the coding, and easy one. Τhere is only one click that one has to do.
Central electronics 09
Coding, long coding
Byte 14
Bit 02, click it to set that the sensor is installed.
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That's it.
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I am following the "entry lights" project from Fernando's thread with interesting !!!
https://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php? ... start=4845

I always wanted to do such a thing. I am curious about the way the cables are connected and the operation of the lights.
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:arrow: viewtopic.php?p=605194#p605194

For the 6R (PQ25) I will connect them to the same power and ground as the footwell/dome lights (under BCM control, T73a/65 - T73a/4), as I indicated in the thread dedicated to my 6R. It is the most plausible option.

For the 6C (PQ26), as on the MQB platform, there may be free BCM pins that can be configured for these Entry lights. 🤔
In any case, I 'suppose' they could also be powered from the footwell/dome light connections.

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I guess I'll finish my summer project next week (or who knows), I'm enjoying the wonderful Olympic games organised by France, it's a great pity that they end tomorrow.
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RLS "retrofit"

After about 2 years I was able to complete the installation of the light and rain sensor.
At least a year ago, I had done the wiring and installation of the wiring in the car.
Everything was done according to the electrical diagram and from instructions I found on the internet from similar installations.
The electrical diagram.
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Along with wiring the sensor, I also did the wiring for the auto-dimming center mirror. And this can be seen in the same electrical diagram.

Unfortunately, I don't have any photos from the construction of the wiring, only a few from the installation of wiring.

The installation included, connecting to Pin 15 of the T73c for the Lin and of course installing the SC53 fuse.
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The passage of the cables was made from the left pillar (driver) to the car roof.
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My main concern was how to fix the sensor. The most correct solution was to remove the existing simple central mirror and its base, glue a new base for the anti-glare mirror. The sensor would fit there (inside the base). I thought about it a lot, I took all the materials, (new base, mirror, primer and glue), but I never implemented it for fear of the procedure and not creating a problem with the windshield. I got instructions from the well-known Russian site.
In the end I didn't dare and looked for other solutions.
On ebay and Aliexpress I found different bases for the sensor, finally I bought this one.
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I did the tests and although it was big, it was not visible to the driver while driving, so I decided to use it and not remove the central mirror.
I used primer for the place that had to be glued, following Fernando's advice so that it doesn't look bad from the outside. I made a stencil and stuck it to the glass, painted with the primer and all is well.
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Then I glued the base and finally applied the sensor.
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Oh, of course I also changed the rotary photo switch, with the one that also has the auto position, and this one was bought from Alixpress. The wire from position 2 to the BCM was already there, so I didn't have to do anything to it.

Then was the sensor time:
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Done with the installation. After that was the setup and programming.

to be continued
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i'm really curious how the mirror will look when its' finished. well done.
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At first glance it looks pretty good, I like the way you went about this installation.👍
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ciclo wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:52 pm At first glance it looks pretty good, I like the way you went about this installation.👍
iichel wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:24 pm i'm really curious how the mirror will look when its' finished. well done.

Well, thank you both ciclo and iichel for your comments.
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RLS "retrofit" continue

Its coding time...

I have a VCDS cable so i follow this procedure:

BLOCK 09.
Coding, long coding. Turn on the following bits:
Byte 6, bit 1 – rain and light sensor installed on the windshield
Byte 6, bit 3 – light switch with the Auto position set to
Byte 7, bit 0 and bit 1 – the Coming/Leaving Home function is turned on
Byte 7, bit 5 – activation of the low beam control assistant
Byte 13, bit 5 — rain sensor installed
Byte 20, bit 0 — door and interior sensors connected to the LIN3 bus
Press Exit, write the coding.


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After this process, the RLS sensor appeared in the list of block 09 options. This was a good sign.

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My sensor is the 5Q0 955 559B
Again, coding, lond coding
Byte 0 - nothing
Byte 1 - 33DD model: VW Polo (6C)
Press Exit, write the coding.

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It was time to test the functionality and of course the installation.

I threw water on the windshield all happy, but nothing.
I try the lever for the wipers again, nothing, they work as they did before, manual style.
I check the coding, everything was fine.
I looked at my notes, the programming didn't end there.
Apart from coding, I also had to enter adaptations

Adaptations:
Turn on the ignition, enter the 9th Block in the adaptation and set:
IDE01268-ENG115771-Windshield wiper-Regensensor aktivieren, activated

after that, i did the test again.
Successfully, the windshield wipers responded to the water I threw.
Looks like everything went well.
Some more changes to the adaptations channels had to be made according to the instructions I found on the internet.

Adaptations:
Turn on the ignition, enter the 9th Block in the adaptation and set:
IDE04926-ENG115656-Comfort illumination-Coming Home Leuchten, Low beam
IDE04926-ENG116601-Comfort illumination-Coming Home Verbaustatus, automatic
IDE04926-ENG116604-Comfort illumination-Coming-home Einschaltereignis, Driver door
IDE04926-ENG116608-Comfort illumination-Helligkeitsschwelle Forward-Messung, 100
IDE04926-ENG116605-Comfort illumination-Helligkeitsschwelle Infrarot-Messung, 72.0
IDE04926-ENG115657-Comfort illumination-Leaving-Home Verbausstatus, Enabled
IDE04926-ENG126569-Comfort illumination-lho_aktiviert, active
IDE04926-ENG126570-Comfort illumination-lho_zeit, 10 seconds
IDE04926-ENG116603-Comfort illumination-Menueeinstellung Cominghome, 10 seconds
IDE04926-ENG116602-Comfort illumination-Menuesteuerung Coming Home Werkseinstellung, active
IDE08786-ENG115723-Assistance light functions-Assistenzfahrlicht bei Regen, active
IDE08786-ENG116640-Assistance light functions-AFL Zeitverzoegerung, 2000 ms
IDE08786-ENG142177-Assistance light functions-Assistance_lighting_sensitivity_adjustable, present

DONE.

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Wednesday,04,September,2024,20:00:43:16365
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 23.11.0.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20231027 DS351.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378   License Plate:[b] RLS retrofit[/b]
Mileage: 71767km-44593mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW26 (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378   Mileage: 71767km-44593miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 057 AB    HW: 04E 907 309 CB
   Component: R3 1.0l MPI   H20 2496  
   Revision: 33H20000    CVN: DA6EEF6D
   Coding: 01110012020400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB.rod
   VCID: 6597B189C5E238F2BC5-8030
   VINID: 9E69EAAAA1A2A97A430080C720BAB66964

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 K    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0004  
   Serial number: 08512057160424
   Coding: 21DD2485492333C8091700700059842492CC90000005C9098F00
   Shop #: WSC 49716 005 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 372B2BC12FCE7A62DE9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 820 045 C    HW: 6C0 820 045 C
   Component: AC Manuell    H03 0202  
   Serial number:  1605161B-0418 Dataset Number: 6C0032v____ 0012
   Coding: 200000000000100000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
   ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26.rod
   VCID: 1F1BE361A73E2222369-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 6C0-937-090-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 937 090 E    HW: 6C0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ26 HiKR H10 0101  
   Serial number: 006738042497
   Coding: 0000084040530A7B4F844000402707000001580053010000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 006004
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_006_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2A0D02B5EC7CD78A517-807E

   Rain/Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559 B    HW: 5Q0 955 559 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLS  050 0105 
   Serial number: S5Y18M04D20H02M34S14
   Coding: 0038DD

   Driver door control module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DG    HW: 6R0 959 801 DG  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU012051661335260
   Coding: 0000A0

   Front passenger door control module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DL    HW: 6R0 959 802 DL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU030041661212448
   Coding: 1000A0

   Rear Driver Side Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 AA    HW: 6R0 959 811 AA
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU028041661198823
   Coding: 0000A0

   Rear Passenger Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 AA    HW: 6R0 959 812 AA
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU002051661233279
   Coding: 1000A0

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 J    HW: 6C0 959 655 J
   Component: VW20Airbag00A 002 0380  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003TH006KLNX Dataset Number: 6C0003V____ 0581
   Coding: 88C0C000000000005C000000000800000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 3A2D32F51CDC670A217-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 305 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3575H00A520BDDD2520R
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 821 104 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3585H00A5209A1C310AF
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 204 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3517A00AF1FACC94822/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 204 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3527A00C12060D61520W
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 6C0 920 740 C    HW: 6C0 920 740 C
   Component: KOMBI         201 1420  
   Coding: 070409002100000811082A000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 49716 005 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 221DEA95944C0FCA197-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901 A    HW: 6C0 937 090 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H10 0101  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 006738042497
   Coding: 01010008200A640071000000000000000001010000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   GVL: 01403C0000000000400000000000480000000000000000000000000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_013_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2615F685F864F3EA75F-8072

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 B    HW: 6C0 959 442 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  X03 X014 
   Serial number: 13/11/2013  PV000031
   Coding: 2C0000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 AG    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3232  
   Serial number: PG5Q1139 Dataset Number: 6C0074V____ 0548
   Coding: 000700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
   VCID: 6D87C9A91D1200B2F45-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 035 869 F    HW: 6C0 035 869 F
   Component: MU-E--ER      050 7064  
   Serial number: 10061600012129 Dataset Number: V03935247LK 0001
   Coding: 026200003C00000041110001010000001F0000940000010001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001032
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2E050EA5D094BBAA8DF-807A

No fault code found.

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iichel wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:24 pm i'm really curious how the mirror will look when its' finished. well done.
Some photos
This is exactly what i see when i drive the car.
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From the bottom side
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From the left side
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From the outside of the windshield
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As it seems, this position of the sensor does not disturb anything.
I am very happy with the result.
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congratulations on a good retrofit and an even better explanation. bravoooo
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Well done. Enjoy it!

This is one of the best adaptation channels for the operation of automatic lights in countries with a Mediterranean climate:
- IDE08786-ENG115723-Assistance light functions-Assistenzfahrlicht bei Regen, active.

You will like its operation.👍
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iichel wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:14 pm congratulations on a good retrofit and an even better explanation. bravoooo
Thanks. I hope to help others who want to do the same without removing the mirror base (as I ended up doing).
ciclo wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:13 pm Well done. Enjoy it!

This is one of the best adaptation channels for the operation of automatic lights in countries with a Mediterranean climate:
- IDE08786-ENG115723-Assistance light functions-Assistenzfahrlicht bei Regen, active.

You will like its operation.👍
Thanks, I agree. I have already done this. Like you said, it's almost a must. And I notice that all the cars I've driven with such automatics have it.

By the way, i am curious about those bits (No1 and No2)

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Any clues ?
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1- Rain Light function active is the same as the adaptation channel we have talked about. In the 6R (PQ25) it is necessary to activate it in coding, in the 6C (PQ26) we see that it is activated by the channel that you already have active (like in the MQB), you do not need to activate it in coding. I have it activated in the Golf 7.5 just like you in the Adaptations and not in coding and it works perfectly.👌

2- Rain closing active, the BCM and the WRMs plus RLS (subcomponents of BCM) have to have the appropriate SW for it to work.
I made it work in the 6R but finally I have it deactivated even though the windows and mirrors close but not the central locking (fortunately).
I think there are VW models in which the central locking is also closed with this function. Now imagine that you leave the keys inside and the sprinklers in your garden make your vehicle close...🤭
For me it is not very useful, I never leave the windows open, I do not want to spend all day cleaning dust - fluff, sand, silicon crystals and other divinities - that make the perfect amalgam so that when cleaning you happily scratch those beautiful gloss black finishes.😄
...or the wonderful plastic s**t of the Instrument Panel.😁
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Good job👌
Is it also possible to install autodimming IRVM with that custom RLS brackets you've installed?
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patil wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:00 am Good job👌
Is it also possible to install autodimming IRVM with that custom RLS brackets you've installed?
Hi,
the original autodimming mirror doesn't fit to this bracket. There must be another bracket for this mirror.
The only way to install the auto dimming central rearview mirror is to buy one from aliexpress or similar e-shop, based on the standard rearview mirror (not the original one).
I installed this kind of mirror to one of my previous cars and it worked fine.
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